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    There is no cons utional obligation to spend the MLE on any single player, or at all.
    And your choice(s) would be?

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    And your choice(s) would be?
    If we're gonna spend like drunken sailors, go the vaunted 'buy a pick' idea. This is simply a player who does not play organized basketball, on either end of the court. He would be enormously disruptive to the Spurs. To those claiming evidence they nearly traded for him before as proof they should do so again, let us remind them that the trade was primarily to jettison Brent Barry's then-valueles contract with an outside chance of trying out a far cheaper JR Smith, a known headcase.

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    Yes, they need to sign a guy who can flame out on offense and give you next to nothing every other night on defense at the least as a tradeable asset. A guy who makes a living either bombing away from behind the arc or trying to make the highlight reel on Sportscenter above the rim who lacks the mid-range game S-Jax had.

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    If we're gonna spend like drunken sailors, go the vaunted 'buy a pick' idea. This is simply a player who does not play organized basketball, on either end of the court. He would be enormously disruptive to the Spurs. To those claiming evidence they nearly traded for him before as proof they should do so again, let us remind them that the trade was primarily to jettison Brent Barry's then-valueles contract with an outside chance of trying out a far cheaper JR Smith, a known headcase.
    So your solution is to leverage a future pick and cash to get a player in the '08 draft with the hope that he'll make the same impact as an NBA-ready double-digit scorer with upside?

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    Part of the sign Scola argument was that if he didn't work out you could trade him. But then Scola was a well-rounded player who could do something besides score.

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    So your solution is to leverage a future pick and cash to get a player in the '08 draft with the hope that he'll make the same impact as an NBA-ready double-digit scorer with upside?
    I'm saying if we're going to piss our money away.

    Yes, I'd rather buy a pick, pick a player with a decent head on his shoulders, rather than give the full MLE to a basketcase who in no conceivable way makes his team better.

    Stop saying upside. At a certain point a player is WYSIWYG and Smith is past that point.

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    I'm saying if we're going to piss our money away.

    Yes, I'd rather buy a pick, pick a player with a decent head on his shoulders, rather than give the full MLE to a basketcase who in no conceivable way makes his team better.

    Stop saying upside. At a certain point a player is WYSIWYG and Smith is past that point.
    Fine....with no upside this guy shoots above 45% from the floor (over 40% on 3pt) and averages double-digit points in less than 20 minutes.

    How you can say that type of production "in no conceivable way makes his team better" is beyond me.

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    JR Smith would be a better version of Stephen Jackson.

    He would fit the mold of someone who WANTS to take a shot, and someone who wants to take down the Lakers.

    Bring him on.

    I would make him FA priority numero uno this summer.

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    JR Smith Sucks.

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    Fine....with no upside this guy shoots above 45% from the floor (over 40% on 3pt) and averages double-digit points in less than 20 minutes.

    How you can say that type of production "in no conceivable way makes his team better" is beyond me.
    Win share. I have no idea what it is in this case, but he has a case of the Earl Boykins disease, where a player disrupts an offense to generate his own points while giving up points on the other end. Meanwhile he is productive in no other way.

    It's like you guys think we're playing a Tower Defense game and see JR Smith as a rocket turret, you just stick him in the game and he starts nailing shots. But this is basketball, and there are real consequences to his presence.

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    Stop just posting trash in every thread. JR Smith is actually the style of player you like ... scores a lot, is a balla.

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    Yes, they need to sign a guy who can flame out on offense and give you next to nothing every other night on defense at the least as a tradeable asset. A guy who makes a living either bombing away from behind the arc or trying to make the highlight reel on Sportscenter above the rim who lacks the mid-range game S-Jax had.
    Believe it or not players like that have value in the league.

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    eh, shut up shorty.

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    I'm saying if we're going to piss our money away.

    Yes, I'd rather buy a pick, pick a player with a decent head on his shoulders, rather than give the full MLE to a basketcase who in no conceivable way makes his team better.

    Stop saying upside. At a certain point a player is WYSIWYG and Smith is past that point.
    He's ing 22 years old, the same age as some of the draftees, and you're ready to write his ass off. No one is denying he has issues. If he didn't, he'd be fielding MAX offers this summer.

    There is no more talented fully developed NBA player available this summer in our price range or the draft after maybe the top 3 picks. Period. End of story.

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    JR Smith is a wack job.

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    Hey folks, Manu takes bad shots. As long as Pop doesn't go ape , and uses a judicious hook, I think it will work out. I'd like to see Barry and Smith playing off each other with the second unit.
    manu takes alot of bad shots but no one hardly says anything

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    Believe it or not players like that have value in the league.
    I'll take a pass on seeing Smith force the action (which he often does) trying to bring the team back from a deficit he'd help to create with some of his suspect decision-making and "all-or-nothing" style of offense. Denver can go ahead and lock him up because I was happy seeing him on the floor against the Spurs in 2007 taking shots away from Iverson and Melo.

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    He's ing 22 years old, the same age as some of the draftees, and you're ready to write his ass off. No one is denying he has issues. If he didn't, he'd be fielding MAX offers this summer.

    There is no more talented fully developed NBA player available this summer in our price range or the draft after maybe the top 3 picks. Period. End of story.
    So the Spurs shouldn't spend money on raw unproven talent, but we're going to about the Spurs not having raw unproven talent in their pipeline?

    I hate Spurs fans.

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    Win share. I have no idea what it is in this case, but he has a case of the Earl Boykins disease, where a player disrupts an offense to generate his own points while giving up points on the other end. Meanwhile he is productive in no other way.

    It's like you guys think we're playing a Tower Defense game and see JR Smith as a rocket turret, you just stick him in the game and he starts nailing shots. But this is basketball, and there are real consequences to his presence.
    Yeah, like we beat LA in a series. That's one consequence. Finley plays no defense either. Now, plug in JR Smiths numbers as a #4 option, which he was in Denver. LA couldn't keep his ass out of the paint or stop his long ball.

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    He's ing 22 years old, the same age as some of the draftees, and you're ready to write his ass off. No one is denying he has issues. If he didn't, he'd be fielding MAX offers this summer.

    There is no more talented fully developed NBA player available this summer in our price range or the draft after maybe the top 3 picks. Period. End of story.
    Max offers? Come on....

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    To paraphrase SequSpur, Mr Body sucks. Playing on he Nuggets with gunners like Melo and AI isn't exactly the training ground for disciplined team play. Not to mention a coach like Karl. The guy has the tools to be an all-star or near all-star if he'll buy into it.

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    I'll take a pass on seeing Smith force the action (which he often does) trying to bring the team back from a deficit he'd help to create with some of his suspect decision-making and "all-or-nothing" style of offense. Denver can go ahead and lock him up because I was happy seeing him on the floor against the Spurs in 2007 taking shots away from Iverson and Melo.
    Sounds like the Stephen Jackson that helped the Spurs win a trophy.

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    The Spurs don't need another perimeter player to jack up the 3 ball. Live and die by the jumper.

    The Spurs need an athletic front line, not a bunch of wack job shooters.

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    I'll take a pass on seeing Smith force the action (which he often does) trying to bring the team back from a deficit he'd help to create with some of his suspect decision-making and "all-or-nothing" style of offense. Denver can go ahead and lock him up because I was happy seeing him on the floor against the Spurs in 2007 taking shots away from Iverson and Melo.
    He was HUGE against the Lakers this year, probably the best Nugget, and he's their #4 option, which would be is role here.

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    Jesus, it's not like JR Smith is unproven. He's quite proven what kind of player he is.

    Just because you have the MLE doesn't mean you should throw it all at a disruptive player who can't play defense and doesn't care to. Be a little smarter about this, pls.

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