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    Is that really your argument? He plays worse defense - in fact, doesn't even care - than two of our players so we should give him all of the MLE?
    He'll care, or he won't play. MLE contracts are the bread and butter of NBA trades. If RC can move Malik and Rasho's albatross deals, any possible Smith mistake would be easily fixable. He's not going to ruin the franchise.

    This kid could probably average 15 off the bench without taking any shots from anyone not named Finley or Barry.

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    So who should they sign?
    he wants a guy in the draft that is not proven

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    He'll care, or he won't play. MLE contracts are the bread and butter of NBA trades. If RC can move Malik and Rasho's albatross deals, any possible Smith mistake would be easily fixable. He's not going to ruin the franchise.
    no kidding especially since is 22 not 30 or past his prime

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    He'll care, or he won't play. MLE contracts are the bread and butter of NBA trades. If RC can move Malik and Rasho's albatross deals, any possible Smith mistake would be easily fixable. He's not going to ruin the franchise.
    No kidding. Yeah, here's a 22 year old athlete who can put up 15 a night and he's signed for the MLE. You want him?

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    So who should they sign?
    Someone he can about RC signing.

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    HE DOES NOT CARE BECAUSE THE FRANCHISE DOES NOT CARE!
    The spurs does and people buy into ot


    look at boston
    kg plays d and all boston players play d now



    do you watch basketball?
    Yes, yes, give JR Smith a brain transplant. I saw that in a science-fiction movie once. This guy had his brain put into the body of an ape. Then he was as strong and polished and as great a defender as an ape.

    You guys really think Smith is magically going to transform into a defensive minded, team-first player once he signs a mighty big contract with the Spurs.

    You don't have this crazy, niggling feeling that maybe, just maybe he had a pretty good year (in jacking up terms) because it was a contract year?

    And that his team kind of blew, but had enough talent to mosey into the playoffs, where they got beat black and blue?

    You actually think he sucks at defense because of the team around him?

    Looks, acts, talks like a duck... is a duck, man.

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    sj did

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    Yes, yes, give JR Smith a brain transplant. I saw that in a science-fiction movie once. This guy had his brain put into the body of an ape. Then he was as strong and polished and as great a defender as an ape.

    You guys really think Smith is magically going to transform into a defensive minded, team-first player once he signs a mighty big contract with the Spurs.

    You don't have this crazy, niggling feeling that maybe, just maybe he had a pretty good year (in jacking up terms) because it was a contract year?

    And that his team kind of blew, but had enough talent to mosey into the playoffs, where they got beat black and blue?

    You actually think he sucks at defense because of the team around him?

    Looks, acts, talks like a duck... is a duck, man.

    some players do not play great with their team

    beno played better for kings then spurs

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    Jack was a similiar, seemlingly brainless, yet gifted perimeter talent. Also a much less refined scorer when the Spurs picked him up.

    What's the solution here? The Spurs can't acquire the perfect JR Smith. I'm not sure the Spurs could have done anything to meet the standard they are being held to for their 4th through 12th players.

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    Yes, yes, give JR Smith a brain transplant. I saw that in a science-fiction movie once. This guy had his brain put into the body of an ape. Then he was as strong and polished and as great a defender as an ape.

    You guys really think Smith is magically going to transform into a defensive minded, team-first player once he signs a mighty big contract with the Spurs.

    You don't have this crazy, niggling feeling that maybe, just maybe he had a pretty good year (in jacking up terms) because it was a contract year?

    And that his team kind of blew, but had enough talent to mosey into the playoffs, where they got beat black and blue?

    You actually think he sucks at defense because of the team around him?

    Looks, acts, talks like a duck... is a duck, man.
    He's actually had two consecutive solid years for Denver, and three overall excellent 3 point shooting years in a row.

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    Someone he can about RC signing.
    Yeah, this has become pretty ing stupid.

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    He'll care, or he won't play. MLE contracts are the bread and butter of NBA trades. If RC can move Malik and Rasho's albatross deals, any possible Smith mistake would be easily fixable. He's not going to ruin the franchise.

    This kid could probably average 15 off the bench without taking any shots from anyone not named Finley or Barry.
    Yes! Let's sign a one-dimensional me-first headcase to the full MLE, totally disregarding the fact he was motivated (slightly) this year because it was a contract year for him and he'll not lift a damn finger to do jack after he's signed! No! No! We'll expect him to shake off those leopard spots and suddenly become as good as Michael Finley was in his prime! He can run! He can jump and shoot! He's a goddamn gazelle! Mwa! Mwa! Everything's great if we can just spend this MLE on this guy!

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    Nah. This guy was worth a shot making rookie scale. At the MLE no way.

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    Denver, although they denied it after the fact, has thrown Melo's name out there in trade discussions rather than Smith or even Iverson for that matter. He's likely to be the last on the list of their Cap Casualties and they'll likely shed what they need to to keep him. For what he could bring to the team I'd rather go after Barners, even with the age differential and draft a young guard with a high ceiling as a scorer who can be coached up on the defensive end.
    Barnes can't play shooting guard.

    Shooting guard is priority 1 this summer, unless the idea of geriatric, no defense playing Michael Finley starting with Manu backing him up coming off an Olympics run gives you a warm fuzzy for the 2009 playoffs...

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    Jack was a similiar, seemlingly brainless, yet gifted perimeter talent. Also a much less refined scorer when the Spurs picked him up.

    What's the solution here? The Spurs can't acquire the perfect JR Smith. I'm not sure the Spurs could have done anything to meet the standard they are being held to for their 4th through 12th players.
    Not to mention that Jack had the reputation of being a poor defender when he came to the Spurs. But then we all know Pop has never gotten any player to improve on D.

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    He's actually had two consecutive solid years for Denver, and three overall excellent 3 point shooting years in a row.
    Yes! Yes! He can shoot three-pointers! Like Luke Jackson! Sign him up!

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    Signing J.R. Smith should be the Spurs top priority. He is going to be a stud. He is a better player than Stephen Jackson was in '03 and is still very young.

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    Yes! Let's sign a one-dimensional me-first headcase to the full MLE, totally disregarding the fact he was motivated (slightly) this year because it was a contract year for him and he'll not lift a damn finger to do jack after he's signed! No! No! We'll expect him to shake off those leopard spots and suddenly become as good as Michael Finley was in his prime! He can run! He can jump and shoot! He's a goddamn gazelle! Mwa! Mwa! Everything's great if we can just spend this MLE on this guy!

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    Nah. This guy was worth a shot making rookie scale. At the MLE no way.
    OK, so who is available this summer instead? Marcus Dove?

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    What are these great moves the Spurs have not made? At this point it looks like anything short of Kobe as their 4th scorer is unacceptable.

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    He's ing 22 years old, the same age as some of the draftees, and you're ready to write his ass off. No one is denying he has issues. If he didn't, he'd be fielding MAX offers this summer.

    There is no more talented fully developed NBA player available this summer in our price range or the draft after maybe the top 3 picks. Period. End of story.

    Just give it up exstatic, unless the player's name is Javtokas Mr. Body doesn't want to see him paid a dime by the Spurs.

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    Someone he can about RC signing.
    You're not too swift. I don't about RC signing people - well, unless it's Bonner, and please don't defend that one -- as I spend most my time ing about the players he doesn't sign.

    But congratulations, once RC and the Spurs org don't even take one look at JR Smith this year you can about them not signing him.

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    Yes! Yes! He can shoot three-pointers! Like Luke Jackson! Sign him up!
    yeah spurs unable to hit three pointers in their losses was a big reason why they lost
    no need to address that
    also he can get a layup
    spurs do not need to get better in that area at all

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    Barnes can't play shooting guard.

    Shooting guard is priority 1 this summer, unless the idea of geriatric, no defense playing Michael Finley starting with Manu backing him up coming off an Olympics run gives you a warm fuzzy for the 2009 playoffs...
    I wasn't suggesting Barnes play SG, and Finley is a SF not a SG.

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    Stephen Jackson actually had a mid-range game and could pass the ball from time to time when he didn't have a clear shot at the basket.
    Pass the ball? Buckets was a turnover machine. Some people have short memories.

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    Yes! Yes! He can shoot three-pointers! Like Luke Jackson! Sign him up!
    His overall FG%s for the last two seasons were 44 and 46%. If that's a chucker, chuck away.

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    You're not too swift. I don't about RC signing people - well, unless it's Bonner, and please don't defend that one -- as I spend most my time ing about the players he doesn't sign.

    But congratulations, once RC and the Spurs org don't even take one look at JR Smith this year you can about them not signing him.
    Who should he sign instead?

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