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Cue BoxScore Lanny and his whining about the 7 Fixers, or whatever the he calls them.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baske...fference_N.htm
I'm sure all the Laker fans who criticized Spurs fans for calling out Joey Crawford and co. will be along shortly to call out their own team for whining...
Cue BoxScore Lanny and his whining about the 7 Fixers, or whatever the he calls them.
the Lakers
the Nba knows they dont belong
7 games, every other night. Unheard of in today's NBA , much less NBA WCF.
These finals are going to go down in history as *
the nba and its cheating refs, alongside homecourt advantage at its best........go spurs go
Let the assness begin...refs didn't call this...we didn't get this call...
I think Stern had a change of heart.
After a night with Bird, he hopped back on the Celtics bandwagon
Fact is Lakers got totally hosed last night by refs. Equal fact is that they also benefited big time by the Barry no call. Karma?
It was a pretty atrocious game from a call standpoint.
Leon Powe had 13 ft's compared to the lakers @ 10.....
Yes he was agressive and yes we did foul more than we should have, but it wasn't called the same on the other end. No matter how you paint it, it was getting very ugly out there. It's up to the lakers to adjust, however from a fan standpoint it's difficult to see your starting sg, sf, and PF sit out in foul trouble the first 8 min's of the q. Just call it fairly that's all the fans want from both sides.
It was funny though during a Paul Pierce pump fake for a 3 attempt he was hit by Fisher very similiarily to the Barry play and he made the shot, however it was called a travel first and PP didn't even argue it.....the only decent call all night.
I can't believe we are agreeing on this....and you're right, barry was fouled but they don't call that in the last seconds. Still, the last 2 series we have been severely shorthanded by the refs in reference to foul shots.
I still can't believe Phil's Freudian slip after the game:
Phil Jackson
In all these years I've reffed --- er, coached in the Finals I've never seen . . .
Phil will probably get fined...
The lakers will have to play 5-8 the rest of the series.
To be honest, I didn't like the officiating. But it was bad for both teams so Phil (or Lakers fans) shouldn't blame the loss on that. Lakers D' sucked. They got owned by a carreer bench player (Powe).
Last edited by PDXSpursFan; 06-09-2008 at 10:55 AM.
.....so what else is new?
Last edited by SenorSpur; 06-10-2008 at 12:14 PM.
At one point ft attempts were 26-3 despite Lakers scoring more points in the paint.
It finished 38-10 ft attempts against. Impossible to win when the other team shoots 4 times as many FTs.
Lakers score 5 more FGs from the floor and "lose"
Very similar to the infamous 35-12 FT attempt differential in Game 1 vs SA in 2003 that swung the series to your team unfairly.
Over 5 games, the Spurs shot 2 more free throws than the Lakers did (94-92). The Lakers had more FTA in Games 1 and 2, and the teams shot the same number of FTA in Game 5. That's being severely shorthanded, I'm sure.
I don't buy that there's some sort of FTA equilibrium that should apply in every game or that officials are obligated to put certain players on the line while denying other players that opportunity. I thought the Celtics were able to get to the line a lot in the early stages of last night's game because they attacked the rim while the Lakers settled for jumpers more often than not. Powe was emblematic of that effort -- with the Lakers in foul trouble, Powe just kept attacking the rim and the Lakers didn't move their feet and play defense.
The iden y of the player attacking the rim shouldn't make any difference in determining whether or not he should shoot free throws -- it's shameful that anyone would actually argue that there is some sort of discrepancy just because one particular player got to the line a lot. I suppose, given that argument, that the discrepancy would have been more explicable to Lakers fans had it been Paul Pierce or Ray Allen!?!?!
Yeah, Powe and the Celtic guards blowing by stock-still Pau Gasol had nothing to do with it.
Whiner.
No one can argue Lakers did not get hosed last night, they did big time.
Fact is NBA officials are not doing their job favoring home courts too much, missing calls etc. Should fire many of them and start over with a new crew and allow a few replays at option of coach - perhaps losing timeouts like in NFL.
Refs don't have FT quotas. Watching the game, there was one aggressive team and one weeny, jump shooting, hook shot shooting team. The Lakers didn't deserve to shoot a single free throw more than they did.
It was basically a blowout with one team by far more aggressive and dominant over the other. The flurry of threes after the Celts packed it in made it seems like a compe ive game, but it wasn't. Anytime one of the best teams in the league demolishes a lousy team during the season, you don't expect the lousy team to about how many FTs they got.
Garbage number -- the Celtics weren't scoring points in the paint because the guys who attacked the rim were getting fouled by the Lakers. The ensuing free throws don't count as points in the paint.
Not true -- the Lakers could have kept them from shooting 53% from the floor when they didn't foul the Celtics instead.
Lakers had 15 more FGA, too.
Still infamous only to Lanny. How about the infamous Barry non-call that swung the series to your team unfairly? Is it whining if I'm still complaining about that 6 years later?
No they didn't. Not even close. One team had 1/10th the aggression of the other. Plus that team is natively a jump-shooting team. No surprise at the results.
I can -- the Lakers didn't get hosed; they didn't play as aggressively with a crew of officials who don't give calls to jumpshooters. The Lakers made themselves into jump shooters and didn't get calls. No hosing in that, unless you think that the officials should have ignored calls that would have given the Celtics free throws or made up calls to put the Lakers on the line. I can't imagine that either possibility would be good for the game.
Did the officials miss some calls? Sure -- that happens in every game. Did the free throw attempt disparity reflect what happened on the floor last night? Absolutely.
I'll guarantee you that this is about the worst idea ever. The whining and gnashing of teeth that would ensue if the league replaced a significant number of its officials would reach insane levels.
Thank you.
Looks like this site does have a few poeple who actually watch the games. Good post.
This isn't a partisan issue, it is an issue of right and wrong. And enough with the "Celtics were more aggressive argument"
The Lakers had outscored them in the paint by a wide margin and were still getting killed in the FT attempt differential. And no way would Kobe have gone to the line on the game deciding phantom foul call that sent Pierce to the line. Does anyone not agree with that?
Powe was amazing. He won me over just by yesterday's outing.
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