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    No they didn't. Not even close. One team had 1/10th the aggression of the other. Plus that team is natively a jump-shooting team. No surprise at the results.

    Another stupid post from perhaps the least knowledgeable poster on this site.

    The Lakers had more points in the paint than Boston, they were punishing them inside.

    The NBA sending two Circle of 7 Fixer Refs (Delaney and Mauer) was certainly no accident. If they aren't going to change the bad group of officials, at least start assigning them randomly.

    The game was obviously fixed for Boston, even if the Lakers come back to "win" the series it is clear the NBA has lost all credibility. Might as well get worked about the WWF or watch the X games or something.

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    Another stupid post from perhaps the least knowledgeable poster on this site.

    The Lakers had more points in the paint than Boston, they were punishing them inside.

    The NBA sending two Circle of 7 Fixer Refs (Delaney and Mauer) was certainly no accident. If they aren't going to change the bad group of officials, at least start assigning them randomly.

    The game was obviously fixed for Boston, even if the Lakers come back to "win" the series it is clear the NBA has lost all credibility. Might as well get worked about the WWF or watch the X games or something.
    I don't think you saw the game. 'Punishing them inside' is a bad description for a bunch of kittens tumbling around in a blanket.

    Man, nobody whines like Lakers. Lakers and their fans. Whine when they win, whine before and after games, whine even during games (have you seen the look on Kobe's face after every play? it's like he's constipated), whine after they lose.

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    I think Stern had a change of heart.

    After a night with Bird, he hopped back on the Celtics bandwagon
    Bird schmird. I've been saying it for weeks: Gatorade owns this league. Stern is just a puppet for the Big Electrolyte lobby. They should name it League Of Clutch Fistfuls of Hundred Dollar Bills Close to Your Chest While You Fix the Finals Because You Are a Greedy Pudgy Bas Son of a , David Stern.
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    Another stupid post from perhaps the least knowledgeable poster on this site.

    The Lakers had more points in the paint than Boston, they were punishing them inside.

    The NBA sending two Circle of 7 Fixer Refs (Delaney and Mauer) was certainly no accident. If they aren't going to change the bad group of officials, at least start assigning them randomly.

    The game was obviously fixed for Boston, even if the Lakers come back to "win" the series it is clear the NBA has lost all credibility. Might as well get worked about the WWF or watch the X games or something.

    If you think it's fixed, why watch at all?

    It's not like the Lakers have never benefitted from calls either, please reference the 2002 Conference Finals vs. the Kings if you're gonna go back in time. Or if you don't remember, look at the Utah Jazz series this year.

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    Kobe expects to get a foul call every single time he drives into the lane. Celtics were very aggressive in the first half and Gasol/Lamar are not exactly all defensive team players. Instead of using their feet to stay in front, they were reaching on defense, hence the foul calls.

    And in the 2nd half, there were several dubious calls that favored the Lakers as well.

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    The Lakers had more points in the paint than Boston, they were punishing them inside.
    Again, because the Celtics were getting fouled when they went to the rim and were denied points in the paint because of that.

    You couldn't have earnestly watched that game and truly believed that the Lakers were "punishing" the Celtics inside.

    The NBA sending two Circle of 7 Fixer Refs (Delaney and Mauer) was certainly no accident. If they aren't going to change the bad group of officials, at least start assigning them randomly.
    Yes, again your solution of having Gary Zielinski call huge games at this stage of the season rears its ugly head. There's no big secret at this point as to who will be calling games. The next two games will involve the last 6 Finals officials -- likely to include Javie, J. Crawford, Derosa, Salvatore, Callahan, and one other (Forte, Brothers, Washington, or McCutchen perhaps?). I can tell you now that the Game 5 officials are likely to be Bavetta, Rush, and probably Delaney. I can tell you now that Dan Crawford will likely be assigned to Game 6, too, if he isn't assigned to Game 5 -- which would be unlikely, I think.

    It's systematic. You don't want to see that, but I can assure you it is.

    The game was obviously fixed for Boston, even if the Lakers come back to "win" the series it is clear the NBA has lost all credibility. Might as well get worked about the WWF or watch the X games or something.
    Then why are you watching?

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    Damn do all of our silver dancers have small ties?

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    It's systematic. You don't want to see that, but I can assure you it is.
    I've recently begun suspecting that your ability to predict the refs stems from the fact that you are actually David Stern. I've always liked you FWD, so it really pains me to say that you are failing in your duties as commissioner by fixing these games so transparently.

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    I've recently begun suspecting that your ability to predict the refs stems from the fact that you are actually David Stern. I've always liked you FWD, so it really pains me to say that you are failing in your duties as commissioner by fixing these games so transparently.
    Damn -- I thought sending my minions in to undermine the chances of my favorite team would have been enough of a smokescreen to throw you off the scent.

    I'd have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids and your dog!!

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    Laker fans think Kobe should get calls just because he's Kobe. When he doesn't get calls the world hates the lakers and the fix is in... Memo to laker fans just because his name is bryant doesn't mean he automatically get's calls.. these people whine when they win and whine when they lose..

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    the Lakers will get all the calls the next two games, why whine?

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    No one can argue Lakers did not get hosed last night, they did big time.

    Fact is NBA officials are not doing their job favoring home courts too much, missing calls etc. Should fire many of them and start over with a new crew and allow a few replays at option of coach - perhaps losing timeouts like in NFL.
    Since when are the refs horrible if they don't bail out a jump shooting team, which is what the Lakers were last night?

    I don't know what you're a doctor of, but it sure ain't hoops.

    Fact is when a team is being aggressive, it's going to shoot more FTs. Boston was aggressive, LA embraced their Gasolism with pussy jump shooting.

    The other fact is now that Phil has ed, LA will probably shoot 50 FTs in game 3 to maybe 15 for Boston, and I'm sure you won't hear Jackson ing about the discrepancy after that one.

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    Laker fans think Kobe should get calls just because he's Kobe. When he doesn't get calls the world hates the lakers and the fix is in... Memo to laker fans just because his name is bryant doesn't mean he automatically get's calls.. these people whine when they win and whine when they lose..
    Laker fans? , Phil went off about Leon Powe getting FT attempts. I guess he missed Odom, Gasol, and co. fouling the out of Leon because they suck balls as interior defenders.

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    did anyone catch Phil Jackson say the word " ing" last night during the post game podium interview?

    he said something like " we started ing when the foul was called"

    haha....wonder if get fined

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    At one point ft attempts were 26-3 despite Lakers scoring more points in the paint.

    It finished 38-10 ft attempts against. Impossible to win when the other team shoots 4 times as many FTs.

    Lakers score 5 more FGs from the floor and "lose"

    Very similar to the infamous 35-12 FT attempt differential in Game 1 vs SA in 2003 that swung the series to your team unfairly.

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    Phil Jackson knows what he is doing


    He knows his team will get more calls from now on.

    Remember after game 6 of the '84 Finals when Bird called out Stern on a FT conspiracy.

    He might be ing, but he knows what he's doing

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    the lakers had no right winning that game, you know that, i know that, and john mccain knows it

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    Lakers will get all the calls in LA... series far from being over with 3 in a row in LA...

    Find it funny that they jump on us for complaing about Crawford and the officials... now look at them... lol!

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    There were a few times I felt Kobe got hit or held on his way to the basket. It's tough for him to get calls though when he picks up a tech after a play where he wasn't even touched or he starts complaining about a call and flailing his arms when he merely loses the ball out of bounds on a shot attempt (early in 1st quarter). If Kobe would just drive to the basket without yelling "hey!" or make "unnatural" arm movements on his shot attempts, then he might get more calls. Still, he's already going to shoot a minimum of 18-20 FTs in Game 3.

    I don't disagree with the offensive foul on Kobe elbowing Ray Allen, but Ray gave him a taste of his own flailing medicine on the Celts' offensive end, which was funny. Every single FTA Powe received was justified and hard-earned. Gasol and Odom were slapping this out of him and it was obvious to everyone but Phil Jackson. He should have even had 1 more attempt after the sweet Rondo fakeout-then-behind-Turiaf's-back pass... Powe got fouled on that dunk.

    Laker fans, you want to know where your 6 points are? Powe getting a wide open, near coast-to-coast dunk, Kobe complaining about foul calls while his man (Ray Allen) nails a 3 at the other end, and Kobe's technical. You should have even lost by 8 after Vlad took about 20 steps on that dunk.

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    Vlad took 21 steps....

    Yes, the Celtics deserved to win, they actually hit a lot of shots and timely at that. Yes, and Powe deserved the calls he got. He was hacked. I'm more concerned about the phantom calls on Kobe with all of the clutching and grabbing he was held a few times with no call. This is what turns teams into jump shooting. Also, the C's hit a ton of shots from the outside and got good bench contribution and energy. The Lakers need to match that if they have a chance.

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    I don't think you saw the game. 'Punishing them inside' is a bad description for a bunch of kittens tumbling around in a blanket.

    Man, nobody whines like Lakers. Lakers and their fans. Whine when they win, whine before and after games, whine even during games (have you seen the look on Kobe's face after every play? it's like he's constipated), whine after they lose.
    Funny you can say the same thing about Spurs fans and Tim Duncan face

    http://basketbawful.blogspot.com/200...ncan-face.html

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    The losing team always whines about the officiating, that's nothing new. The Lakers will get the calls in games 3-5 and this series will go back to Boston 3 - 2 in favor of someone.

    This is the league's dream matchup, it ain't ending in 4-5 games.

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    looks like those bruising games against Atlanta, Cleveland, Detroit where they pushed, pulled and hacked hard against the Celtics got them ready to play against the soft as Lakers.

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    The problem is the refs are calling this game on the reputation of the teams involved, not on what's actually going on in the game.

    I had no problems with the calls that Powe was getting, he was mostly getting fouled IMHO. The problem is the Lakers weren't getting the same touch fouls on the other end. Gasol would go up for an alley-oop and get raked across the arms by KG with no call whatsoever. Kobe would drive to the hoop and get his arm held back and no call would be made. If your going to call the game tight then fine, just be consistent on both ends is all I ask for. The Lakers are a good enough team to win in spite of some home cooking, but a 28 F/T disparity is just too much for any team to overcome.

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    looks like those bruising games against Atlanta, Cleveland, Detroit where they pushed, pulled and hacked hard against the Celtics got them ready to play against the soft as Lakers.
    LOL did you just say Atlanta? The sub-500 team that wouldve been in like 12th place in the West that took the almighty Celtics to game 7?

    2 of the 3 teams you just mentioned wouldnt have even made the playoffs in the West. What exactly are you trying to get at?


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