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    Batum is at #25 still in Ford's mock. Maybe he could slide into the 2nd round. This draft is Spur friendly.

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    I want those T-Wolves picks!

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    Please drop to us and please the FO do the right thing and jump on this guy...

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    I'd love for the Spurs to have options when pick 26 rolls around. It would really be interesting to see what the Spurs would do if Rush, Batum, Walker and CDR were all available when they're turn came around. Just wishful thinking.

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    i know the guys got great potential but hes flopping in the euro league right now. his main concerns are his agressiveness, whose to say that will ever change?

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    Now that I think about it, Batum's game reminds me of Travis Outlaw mixed with Boris Diaw's passiveness. Good value at 26 but I fear that once he's ready to play, it's going to be about 2011.

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    i know the guys got great potential but hes flopping in the euro league right now. his main concerns are his agressiveness, whose to say that will ever change?
    You have to hope the more open and athletic American game could draw him out, which it could. Problem is, that's not the Spurs' style.

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    Now that I think about it, Batum's game reminds me of Travis Outlaw mixed with Boris Diaw's passiveness.
    I quite disagree with the Outlaw comparison. Batum is light year ahead of Outlaw when it comes to basketball IQ and feeling for the game.
    Outlaw is an athlete, Batum is a player.

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    I feel like the Spurs need to get players who can help them now...not two or three years down the road...and that's IF the team can ever actually get them over here.

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    I quite disagree with the Outlaw comparison. Batum is light year ahead of Outlaw when it comes to basketball IQ and feeling for the game.
    Outlaw is an athlete, Batum is a player.
    Outlaw has turned the corner the last year or year and a half. He's no longer just a deer. But anyways, I meant Outlaw in that he's long, has a high release and he likes to shoot off the dribble. Outlaw is one of the few long players who shoots off the dribble with a high release. I can't think of another one off the top of my head.

    Who would you compare him to and do you think he'd be helpful as a rookie or is he a player who needs a couple years of seasoning first? I've admittedly only seen about 30-40 minutes of footage of Batum. I'm assuming you've seen much more.

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    I can't find an accurate comparison. Maybe a mix of Hedo Turkoglu with a way worse jump shoot and a young Boris Diaw.

    Batum isn't much more a longterm prospect than most other players in the draft. He has the same age than most of them and has played a lot in Euroleague where the level is higher than in NCAA. If he can improve his jump shoot this summer, I think he can be a productive rookie. He won't be a star but a solid glue guy.
    If he works on his ballhandling and mindset, he can be an all star.

    I'm really high on him. I don't know enough NCAA players to say Spurs should draft him ahead Rush, CDR or Walker but I'm sure that he will be a great pick.

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    I can't find an accurate comparison. Maybe a mix of Hedo Turkoglu with a way worse jump shoot and a young Boris Diaw.

    Batum isn't much more a longterm prospect than most other players in the draft. He has the same age than most of them and has played a lot in Euroleague where the level is higher than in NCAA. If he can improve his jump shoot this summer, I think he can be a productive rookie. He won't be a star but a solid glue guy.
    If he works on his ballhandling and mindset, he can be an all star.

    I'm really high on him. I don't know enough NCAA players to say Spurs should draft him ahead Rush, CDR or Walker but I'm sure that he will be a great pick.
    Fair enough. He do seems to have a little Turkoglu in his game. Good call. Even though Batum obviously isn't as good of a shooter, he does have a smoother stroke ... especially off the dribble.

    I think Rush and CDR would help right away more than Batum. However, I'd say Batum and Walker are the two with the highest ceiling. And Batum is a much safer pick than Walker. If the Spurs can get their hands on one of those four, I'd be happy.

    Budinger I like but more as a value pick. He doesn't exactly fit but he's awesome value at 26. Lee I still think is a pretty good pick but I think he's becoming my sixth out of six choices.

    Throw in Chalmers and there are right now seven perimeter players that would be decent picks for the Spurs at 26 that could all be available. Now we just have to hope that not too many players pull out of the draft. Right now, the crop in the late first round looks better than it has in years

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    The Spurs should have a decent pick out of a few of those guys (seven) at their slot. If you run mocks a few times at least a handful come out at the end there, at least 2-3.

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    Outlaw has turned the corner the last year or year and a half. He's no longer just a deer. But anyways, I meant Outlaw in that he's long, has a high release and he likes to shoot off the dribble. Outlaw is one of the few long players who shoots off the dribble with a high release. I can't think of another one off the top of my head.

    Who would you compare him to and do you think he'd be helpful as a rookie or is he a player who needs a couple years of seasoning first? I've admittedly only seen about 30-40 minutes of footage of Batum. I'm assuming you've seen much more.
    A lot of scouts are comparing his style to Rudy Gay.

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    Could this work?

    Oberto or Bonner
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    Cash

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    Azubuike
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    Could this work?

    Oberto or Bonner
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    That can work, but the Warriors would be in stupid to do that.
    They have Azubuike and the 14th pick. They dump both of them for either Bonner or Oberto and the 26th? No way they accept that.

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    GS is stockpiled at 2 guard. Don Nelson would love Oberto's passing or Bonner's big man shooting to spread the floor in his offense. GS probably doesn't want to draft anyone that low because they'd cost more. At 26 they can still get a good player but at a lower cost.

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    Could this work?

    Oberto or Bonner
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    Take out the 14th pick from the equation and then maybe.

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    You don't see GS moving down for cap reasons?

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    I'm also hearing that a combo of Brandan Wright and the No. 14 pick are available if they can get a veteran big man back in return or move up in the draft.

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    I wouldn't mind switching Azubuike with Wright in that deal.
    Then go after JR or Barnes.

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    Veteran Bigman != Oberto or Bonner.

    Oberto doesn't fit their style of play at all and someone would have to be crazy to give up the 14th pick in the draft for Bonner. Maybe take him in a sign-and-trade to get value for one of their free agents, but even that isn't too likely.

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    What about s&t KT instead of Oberto.

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    If Azubuike comes at the price of losing Kurt, then no thanks.

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    I see Denver possibly moving down cause I really do not see ty lawson going to anybody between 20-26...Cash and a draft pick would get this done. But, like we have said in the past, Spurs are not going anywhere but #26. the #32 pick is what seems to catch my attention and how the spurs could get this pick?

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