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    I Am Jack's Smirking Revenge atxrocker's Avatar
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    lol @ atx er. No, you really aren't obsessed with the Mavs or their fans. a huge scandal has just broken out that very likely vindicates your team from their chokejob of a series, NOT ONE MENTION OF THE MAVS ANYWHERE IN THIS STORY, NO SPECULATION NO NOTHING, yet you still bring them up. what a stupid sucker.
    that atx er is pure gold, kid. you should really try your luck in comedy, it's obviously your niche. and give me a ing break, it was only a matter of time till one of you roaches came in here with your usual bull about the kings being inferior, choking the series away, peja dissapearing, posting horry pics or anything else a third grader would use as a burn. bound to happen. i was asking where you maggots were because it never fails. ANY thread related to the kings is bound to generate lots of mav troll posts because (most of) ya'll hang on our nuts. so yourself.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    that atx er is pure gold, kid. you should really try your luck in comedy, it's obviously your niche. and give me a ing break, it was only a matter of time till one of you roaches came in here with your usual bull about the kings being inferior, choking the series away, peja dissapearing, posting horry pics or anything else a third grader would use as a burn. bound to happen. i was asking where you maggots were because it never fails. ANY thread related to the kings is bound to generate lots of mav troll posts because (most of) ya'll hang on our nuts. so yourself.
    wow you are one sensitive, pissy little .

  3. #53
    I am Jack's Tourrette's
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    the mavs fans keep making fun of me!

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    He may just be trying to cover his ass, but the fact that a lot of us find it believable should tell you something.
    The Problem for the NBA is that this is not something that is new. Donaghy told this to the feds during the investigation. Donaghy is just making this public to show that he was not the only one. What the NBA is trying to say is that it was just him, so I do not have a problem with him trying to cover his ass and get his side of the story out. So I think it does have more legs than Stern will give it.

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    Maaaaaannnn fuck.... E20's Avatar
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    I think atxrocker has Dirk and Peja mixed up.

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    The Problem for the NBA is that this is not something that is new. Donaghy told this to the feds during the investigation. Donaghy is just making this public to show that he was not the only one. What the NBA is trying to say is that it was just him, so I do not have a problem with him trying to cover his ass and get his side of the story out. So I think it does have more legs than Stern will give it.
    Watch for the book by Tim Donaghy, "How They Did It".

    He's pissed and has a long time to think about stuff. Should be juicy.

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    and the spurs winning with crummy teams during the nba's attempt to go global makes you wonder as well.


    All it proves is that the Spurs are the only ones to overcome the favoritism, and be a thorn in Sterns side for the last 5 years. Their championships were earned legitimately despite the media darlings. You can't cheat the league ALL the time. The 2005 campaign after Stern had no options was a failed attempt to market Manu Ginobili, and take advantage of the international appeal of the Spurs only after the fact that the Lakers were a joke, and there was no other dominant team besides the non-all-star Pistons and the all offense Suns/Shaq-Wade Miami Heat failed to make it.

    All the even years have had lame questionable officiating since that blatantly tainted Kings series in 2004....(the refs influence in 2007 doesn't count because of the well-known rule violation, which came as a result of a lousy Suns coaching staff and a couple moronic Suns players. )

  8. #58
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    SI.com's version:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

    Donaghy implicates other referees

    NEW YORK (AP) -- NBA referees, influenced by cozy relationships with league officials, rigged a 2002 playoff series to force it to a revenue-boosting seven games, a former referee at the center of a gambling scandal alleged Tuesday.

    Without identifying anyone or naming teams, Tim Donaghy also claimed the NBA routinely encouraged refs to ring up bogus fouls to manipulate results but discouraged them from calling technical fouls on star players to keep them in games and protect ticket sales and television ratings.

    The allegations were contained in a letter filed by a lawyer for Donaghy, who pleaded guilty last year to felony charges alleging he took cash payoffs from gamblers and bet on games himself. The 41-year-old Donaghy faces up to 33 months in prison at sentencing on July 14.

    "If the NBA wanted a team to succeed, league officials would inform referees that opposing players were getting away with violations," the letter said. "Referees then would call fouls on certain players, frequently resulting in victory for the opposing team."

    The league called Donaghy's allegations false and self-serving, saying the scandal was limited to him and two co-defendants, both former high school classmates who also pleaded guilty to gambling charges.

    "The NBA remains vigilant in protecting the integrity of our game and has fully cooperated with the government at every stage of its investigation," Richard Buchanan, NBA executive vice president and general counsel, said in a statement. "The only criminal activity uncovered is Mr. Donaghy's."

    Donaghy's lawyer has sought to convince a federal judge in Brooklyn that Donaghy, of Bradenton, Fla., deserves more credit for coming forward before he was charged to disclose behind-the-scenes misconduct within the NBA. The letter, filed Monday, suggests prosecutors have hurt Donaghy's chances for a lesser prison term by downplaying the extent of his cooperation.

    Both Donaghy's attorney, John Lauro, and prosecutors declined comment.

    In one of several allegations of corrupt refereeing, Donaghy said he learned in May 2002 that two referees known as "company men" were working a best-of-seven series in which "Team 5" was leading 3-2. In the sixth game, he alleged the referees purposely ignored personal fouls and called "made-up fouls on Team 5 in order to give additional free throw opportunities for Team 6."

    "Team 6" won the game and came back to win the series, the letter said.

    The letter also alleged manipulation during a 2005 playoff series.

    "Team 3 lost the first two games in the series and Team 3's owner complained to NBA officials," the letter said. "Team 3's owner alleged that referees were letting a Team 4 player get away with illegal screens. NBA Executive Y told Referee Supervisor Z that the referees for that game were to enforce the screening rules strictly against that Team 4 player. ... The referees followed the league's instructions and Team 3 came back from behind to win the series. The NBA benefited from this because it prolonged the series, resulting in more tickets sold and more televised games."

    Donaghy's letter said that in the first of several meetings with prosecutors and the FBI in New York in 2007, he named names while describing "various examples of improper interactions and relationships between referees and other league employees, such as players, coaches and management." For example, it said, referees broke NBA rules by hitting up players for autographs, socializing with coaches and accepting meals and merchandise from teams.

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    SI.com's version:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

    Donaghy implicates other referees

    NEW YORK (AP) -- NBA referees, influenced by cozy relationships with league officials, rigged a 2002 playoff series to force it to a revenue-boosting seven games, a former referee at the center of a gambling scandal alleged Tuesday.

    Without identifying anyone or naming teams, Tim Donaghy also claimed the NBA routinely encouraged refs to ring up bogus fouls to manipulate results but discouraged them from calling technical fouls on star players to keep them in games and protect ticket sales and television ratings.

    The allegations were contained in a letter filed by a lawyer for Donaghy, who pleaded guilty last year to felony charges alleging he took cash payoffs from gamblers and bet on games himself. The 41-year-old Donaghy faces up to 33 months in prison at sentencing on July 14.

    "If the NBA wanted a team to succeed, league officials would inform referees that opposing players were getting away with violations," the letter said. "Referees then would call fouls on certain players, frequently resulting in victory for the opposing team."

    The league called Donaghy's allegations false and self-serving, saying the scandal was limited to him and two co-defendants, both former high school classmates who also pleaded guilty to gambling charges.

    "The NBA remains vigilant in protecting the integrity of our game and has fully cooperated with the government at every stage of its investigation," Richard Buchanan, NBA executive vice president and general counsel, said in a statement. "The only criminal activity uncovered is Mr. Donaghy's."

    Donaghy's lawyer has sought to convince a federal judge in Brooklyn that Donaghy, of Bradenton, Fla., deserves more credit for coming forward before he was charged to disclose behind-the-scenes misconduct within the NBA. The letter, filed Monday, suggests prosecutors have hurt Donaghy's chances for a lesser prison term by downplaying the extent of his cooperation.

    Both Donaghy's attorney, John Lauro, and prosecutors declined comment.

    In one of several allegations of corrupt refereeing, Donaghy said he learned in May 2002 that two referees known as "company men" were working a best-of-seven series in which "Team 5" was leading 3-2. In the sixth game, he alleged the referees purposely ignored personal fouls and called "made-up fouls on Team 5 in order to give additional free throw opportunities for Team 6."

    "Team 6" won the game and came back to win the series, the letter said.

    The letter also alleged manipulation during a 2005 playoff series.

    "Team 3 lost the first two games in the series and Team 3's owner complained to NBA officials," the letter said. "Team 3's owner alleged that referees were letting a Team 4 player get away with illegal screens. NBA Executive Y told Referee Supervisor Z that the referees for that game were to enforce the screening rules strictly against that Team 4 player. ... The referees followed the league's instructions and Team 3 came back from behind to win the series. The NBA benefited from this because it prolonged the series, resulting in more tickets sold and more televised games."


    Donaghy's letter said that in the first of several meetings with prosecutors and the FBI in New York in 2007, he named names while describing "various examples of improper interactions and relationships between referees and other league employees, such as players, coaches and management." For example, it said, referees broke NBA rules by hitting up players for autographs, socializing with coaches and accepting meals and merchandise from teams.
    Mavs - Rockets

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    NBA fan since 1967 Lakers_55's Avatar
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    As a Laker fan, seeing the revelation that outcome ofgame 6 of the WCF in 2002 was rigged doesn't surprise me. I remember the outrage from Sacramento. I, as most of you, could make a case for plenty of fixes. I have seen some where superstars were playing as if they were bought off by the mob to tank the game. I won't list any games or series I think were shady, no point in that. What's at stake is, the entire credibility of the NBA. I know everyone says there is a conspiracy to get the LA vs. Boston finals. Even I, a trusting fan, wonder now if the finals matchup wasn't rigged.

    Ok, I a Laker fan, admit we got the benefit of a fix in 2002. Wonder how many other times we got help from outside, or the screw turned on us. They need to clean this league up or start a new one. Now, the halftime show is discussing it, only quoting the article.

    Stern is denying it, lol. what else?

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    and the spurs winning with crummy teams during the nba's attempt to go global makes you wonder as well.
    Oh yeah Spurs 2003, 2005 and 2007 just blew ass.

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    Slovenia and the VI is mine!!!!1111

  13. #63
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    where are all the mav fans who compare that series to thier choke jobs now?
    Mavs/Heat was even worse than that series..I mean seriously I know it's your job to be a ..but at least try to be an educated ..

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    What pisses me off even more is that Sterns response is that well he is trying to just make sure his sentence is lighter. Well no , but if he is lying then that would make his sentence worse??
    I am sorry, but I happen to believe Donaghy more than Stern on this. What does Donaghy have to gain by rolling over?? He is admitting that he gambled, but he is trying to say it was not just me. He accepts his part for gambling on the NBA. But where is Stern?? He is just saying he is a felony you cannot trust a felony????

    Where there is smoke there is Fire.

    This will be the NBA's version of the Steroids for MLB and if it does not admit its mistakes I wonder if the league will be around for long

  15. #65
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    *asterick!!!!!

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    In one of several allegations of corrupt refereeing, Donaghy said he learned in May 2002 that two referees known as “company men” were working a best-of-seven series in which “Team 5” was leading 3-2. In the sixth game, he alleged the referees purposely ignored personal fouls and called “made-up fouls on Team 5 in order to give additional free throw opportunities for Team 6.”

    “Team 6” won the game and came back to win the series, the letter said.



    Only the Los Angeles Lakers-Sacramento Kings series went to seven games during the 2002 playoffs. And the Lakers went on to win the championship.



    At the time, consumer advocate Ralph Nader and the League of Fans, a sports industry watchdog group, sent a letter to Stern complaining about the officiating in Game 6 of the Western Conference finals.

    The Lakers, who beat Sacramento 106-102 in that game in Los Angeles, shot 27 free throws in the final quarter and scored 16 of their last 18 points at the line.


    In this April 10, 2007 file ph…

    AP - Jun 3, 5:54 pm EDT
    The letter also alleged manipulation during a 2005 playoff series.

    “Team 3 lost the first two games in the series and Team 3’s owner complained to NBA officials,” the letter said. “Team 3’s owner alleged that referees were letting a Team 4 player get away with illegal screens. NBA Executive Y told Referee Supervisor Z that the referees for that game were to enforce the screening rules strictly against that Team 4 player. … The referees followed the league’s instructions and Team 3 came back from behind to win the series. The NBA benefited from this because it prolonged the series, resulting in more tickets sold and more televised games.”

    In that same series, the letter says “Team 3” lost the first two games of the series and that team owner complained to NBA officials. The letter also alleges that the opposing team’s coach later was fined $100,000 after revealing an NBA official informed him of the behind-the-scenes instructions.

    That would correspond with the 2005 first-round playoff series between the Houston Rockets and the Dallas Mavericks, in which Mark Cuban complained to officials and Jeff Van Gundy was fined.

    so much for th e asterisk, Lakers.........

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    I find these charges utterly fantastic. I am a laker hater, but surely these charges aren't true. However, if there is any truth to this story, I would say shame on you Stern!!

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    the nba games need refs paid outside of the nba

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    The NBA needs to fire Stern and clean house. Get rid of all the refs and start over.

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    2002*

    How ironic.

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    there are always mobs or gambling people involved in sports but this one is very different because stern is so obsessed in promoting the NBA that the sport is blatantly being replaced from being compe ive, fair, athletic and camaraderie to pure entertainment just to gain tv ratings. Total backfire! Now, no matter how hard a team played for their win/championship they will always be suspected of conspiracy.

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    Something happened on the way to the supposed finals of the century. Maybe - it will be interesting to see if the media buries this story.

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    i thought this was funny


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    foul on Bibby that gave Kobe Freethrows at end of game 6 when Kings could have tied it anyways.

    http://i27.tinypic.com/2chuq9e.jpg
    Last edited by Larry89; 06-11-2008 at 01:01 AM.

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    The NBA needs to fire Stern and clean house. Get rid of all the refs and start over.
    Exactly. That is the only way the league will earn back even a modi of credibility. Anything less than a complete scrape deserves a boycott.

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