Lakers now own the Asterisk

[slayermin]

if not for the infamous 35-12 2003 Game 1 fix vs your team.

You didn't even watch this entire game. How do you know it was fixed?

[Trainwreck2100]

Bottom line is the Lakers won 3 les in a row in the middle of your so called dynasty and would have had 4 if not for the infamous 35-12 2003 Game 1 fix vs your team.

So the refs made Robert Horry miss a wide open 3?

Did they also rig the rims so that Bowen made a franchise record in 3s for a game?

[Medvedenko]

So the refs made Robert Horry miss a wide open 3?

Did they also rig the rims so that Bowen made a franchise record in 3s for a game?

You're absolutely correct, that's why I don't hold too much emotions regarding the ref scandals. It always comes down to guys making or missing shots, foul line or 3 line.

[FromWayDowntown]

I'd be interested in hearing Lanny point to what calls the officials got wrong in Game 1 of the 2003 Spurs/Lakers series.

I'd also be interested in his explanation for why the disparity in Game 1 of that series demonstrates a fix, but for why the disparity in Game 4 of that series (45-26 for LA -- +19 for you poets out there) is not as egregious as the disparity in Game 1 of that series (35-12 for SA, +23 for the poetry crowd).

I'll wait to hear back.

[FromWayDowntown]

You're absolutely correct, that's why I don't hold too much emotions regarding the ref scandals. It always comes down to guys making or missing shots, foul line or 3 line.

I agree with this. Games are decided by whether players make or miss shots and whether players defend or don't and things like that. Disparities in the number of FTA, standing alone, aren't indicative of favoritism by officials and the argument to say that a wide disparity shows "a fix" -- Lanny's term -- is beyond absurd if there is no context given to the disparity. A big differential in FTA might mean any number of things -- as Lanny's contentions concerning Game 6 of the LAL/SAC series in 2002 demonstrate.

[ShoogarBear]

I'll wait to hear back.

Don't hold your breath.

[Pero]

I'd also be interested in his explanation for why the disparity in Game 1 of that series demonstrates a fix, but for why the disparity in Game 4 of that series (45-26 for LA -- +22 for you poets out there) is not as egregious as the disparity in Game 1 of that series (35-12 for SA, +23 for the poetry crowd).

I'll wait to hear back.

45 - 26 = 22 ?

[FromWayDowntown]

45 - 26 = 22 ?

So kill me; I'm a poet, too.

19 vs. 23 -- it's obviously that 4 FTA gap that is the difference between a fix and a well-officiated game.

I fixed it.

[Pero]

19 vs. 23 -- it's obviously that 4 FTA gap that is the difference between a fix and a well-offiicated game.

Of course, didn't you learn that at school?

[lefty]

Urban myth.

Name two bad calls (specific plays) in that infamous 4th quarter.

No Kings fan could ever do it and I am sure a tool *purs fan can't do it either.

Doug Christie was on LA radio today whining about the "27 ft's in the 4th qtr" of that game, I guess conveniently forgetting that his team INTENTIONALLY FOULED for 10 of those attempts and others were Hack A Shaq. Were the refs not supposed to call the fouls the Queens were intentionally trying to commit?

Bottom line is the Lakers won 3 les in a row in the middle of your so called dynasty and would have had 4 if not for the infamous 35-12 2003 Game 1 fix vs your team.

Queens have never even been in the finals, much less won one. Even a scrub franchise like the Suns have at least made the Finals twice.

Forget trying to debate this issue with me, I am a legend on this subject and the foremost authority on the internet about it.

Actually, the 2000-2002 Lakers dynasty is an urban myth

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

I wish it was someone who I liked making the argument. I wouldn't wipe my ass with one of Jim Rome's opinions much less agree with it.

[mardigan]

I wish it was someone who I liked making the argument. I wouldn't wipe my ass with one of Jim Rome's opinions much less agree with it.

Bingo.
This guy has said so much stupid during his career that even when he says something about a team I hate I have to disregard it.

[jack sommerset]

Both the Spurs and Lakers have an Asterick now.

[E20]

I love watching this:

[GaryJohnston]

He is.

But still, that was nice

so is your sig

[GrandeDavid]

Here's a breakdown to your "conspiracy"

Game 1:
Laker FT: 16-22
Kings FT: 16-17
Lakers Win

Game 2:
Laker FT: 15-25
Kings FT: 23-38
Kings Win

Game 3:
Kings FT: 21-35
Lakers FT: 8-15
Kings Win

Game 4:
Kings FT: 18-26
Lakers FT: 18-27
Lakers Win

Game 5:
Lakers FT: 17-23
Kings FT: 22-33
Kings Win

Game 6:
Kings FT: 18-25
Lakers FT: 34-40 (Shaq 13-17) Tried hack a shaq didn't work.....
Lakers Win

Game 7:
Lakers FT: 27-33
Kings FT: 15-36 Nuff Said...
Lakers Win

this conspiracy BS

Total FT's
Kings: 133-210 63%
Laker: 135-185 73%

Owned.

I forgot that Jim Rome is now the prophet of all things......please he has bashed Pop in the past and now you're all over his jock.

Not that I really care what he has to say, but Jim Rome has only given love to Pop, at least the past few years, saying such junk as Pop is better with the greaseboard than any other coach in the league, etc.

[Pucho!!!]

I haven't watched that game since 02, so I would have loved to see the 4 q again and look with Timmy D goggles.

Maybe you should change your name...is that guy still in the NBA hahaha

[ajh18]

See, the thing is, it's easy to say any game in which you feel like your team got robbed was "fixed". The problem that the Lakers have though, is that regardless of his credibility, an NBA official has suggested that a crucial game in their le run was fixed. I'm not going to blame the times we got beat on a fix, nor will a blame other team's wins on it. But for those games that an NBA ref actually said were fixed, well, you at least have to consider those.

[yomama21]

Actually, the 2000-2002 Lakers dynasty is an urban myth

Yo man, who's the chick on your sig? She's ing hot!!

[Whisky Dog]

you people disgust me.

[Medvedenko]

Not that I really care what he has to say, but Jim Rome has only given love to Pop, at least the past few years, saying such junk as Pop is better with the greaseboard than any other coach in the league, etc.

See Jim Rome flame Pop after Pop expressed his disdain regarding the gasol trade and said trade committee comments.

[DazedAndConfused]

I suggest you guys all watch Game 5 of the 2002 WCF. There were some equally dubious calls in that game that enabled the Kings to be in a position to win the game. Most notably were Webber stepping out of bounds right in front of a ref with 15 seconds left, and Webber setting a moving screen to free Bibby open for the game winning shot. I felt that entire series was orchestrated to go 7 games no matter what. In the 7th game, which was in SAC, the Kings flat out choked and couldn't hit a free throw to save their life. They didn't deserve to advance, they had all the chances in the world to win that game easily at home and they didn't. The Lakers did.

[TDMVPDPOY]

with all the investigation so far, h ow come none organized crime syndicates being name yet?

[Pero]

I suggest you guys all watch Game 5 of the 2002 WCF. There were some equally dubious calls in that game that enabled the Kings to be in a position to win the game. Most notably were Webber stepping out of bounds right in front of a ref with 15 seconds left, and Webber setting a moving screen to free Bibby open for the game winning shot. I felt that entire series was orchestrated to go 7 games no matter what. In the 7th game, which was in SAC, the Kings flat out choked and couldn't hit a free throw to save their life. They didn't deserve to advance, they had all the chances in the world to win that game easily at home and they didn't. The Lakers did.

Please. If the Lakers hadn't won't game 4 because of a ref "mistake" it would've been 3-1 for the Kings, and no way Lakers win 3 straight against them.

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[Spuradicator]

I suggest you guys all watch Game 5 of the 2002 WCF. There were some equally dubious calls in that game that enabled the Kings to be in a position to win the game. Most notably were Webber stepping out of bounds right in front of a ref with 15 seconds left, and Webber setting a moving screen to free Bibby open for the game winning shot. I felt that entire series was orchestrated to go 7 games no matter what. In the 7th game, which was in SAC, the Kings flat out choked and couldn't hit a free throw to save their life. They didn't deserve to advance, they had all the chances in the world to win that game easily at home and they didn't. The Lakers did.

So the whole series was fixed on both ends to push towards a game 7? That still doesn't mean NBA DIDN'T fix the series. The Kings were a better team, everyone could see that, and would of won that series had the NBA not sneaked their agenda in.

Bottom line is this is a black eye for the NBA. And there is probably a good reason those other refs haven't spoken up against the accuasations