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    Cool man. I'm at home. I'll mix a martini while I wait.

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    Matt Bonner once toilet papered his HS coach's house.

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    He's not Kobe, but keep in mind how young he still is. From what I've seen so far, he looks like he could turn out to be a VERY explosive scorer in the right environment, particularly given how the game has changed to favor players like him.
    Much like hockey, in order to do what? Ratings? Did someone say ratings?

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    Just don't get into a car with JR Smith driving...and give him his own toll road....

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    Born to be a Spur...


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    Just don't get into a car with JR Smith driving...and give him his own toll road....
    I actually knew the guy that was killed in that accident. At Benedict's students outside of freshmen (they have their own groups amongst themselves) are placed into groups with other classmen of different levels for different reasons (study sessions, convocation, athletic activies after classes, etc.). I was my group's leader the year he was drafted into our group. Andre Bell. We were cool even though he was 2 years younger than me and often tried to be a wise-ass....still, overall he was a good kid. I was sad to hear the news when I did last year especially given the nature of the accident. Has nothing to do with why I'm not the biggest fan of Smith's game or his fit with this team, but that incident just made me look at him differently personally.

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    K I'm back... Los Angeles traffic.

    Anyways, I feel that with the Spur's current roster w/ the big 3/4 being who they are, that they have matured as an organization. They don't need to take gambles on players who are iffy locker room guys because they have 4 solid players who won't put up with like that.

    So my point was, unless J.R. smith has a drastic change in at ude/playstyle I doubt he would fit in with the spurs. My other point was, say he had a drastic change in at ude/playstyle would he be the same player?

    It takes a certain kind of player to fit into this spurs team, and as much as I would love a player like J.R. on the roster, I just don't think it would work out.

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    People always worry about character issues. They bring up J.R.'s defensive problems as well. But with a guy as young and as impressionable as he is, if you put him alongside quality guys, and with a coach who will challenge him to be his best, he can overcome. Also, when it comes to defense in this league, the only difference between Bruce Bowen and J.R. is effort. When you are that athletic, it is just making a commitment to playing D. Keep in mind, defense is always a team concept. The Nuggets did not play D as a team at all. There are great defensive players on terrible defensive teams that get no notice and look terrible. If you put him in a system, and make him accountable just like everyone else on the team, I have no doubt he has the ability to become a defender of good quality. Plus, the Spurs need a huge boost in scoring from the 2 and 3 spots in our rotation. He can provide some of that. He also is a slasher, who can create when the offense breaks down, which he can do. He does have his downside, but I feel he does far more good than bad. He will not help address our front-line lack of scoring though...

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    I also would like to see the Spurs maybe go after Rashad McCants from Minnesota or maybe John Salmons from the Kings, although I do not like his contract and he is 28. That could be some nice options for a better scoring 2 guard.

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    What about this trade I worked up as well. The Bulls need active big men that are veterans and have high basketball I.Q. The Spurs need to get younger, more athletic and need some upside at the 2 spot and the 3/4 spots. I feel this trade solves both problems. Let me know what you think:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...4~24&te=&cash=

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    eh... i understand why people want to give him a chance, but i just dont see it working out the way we'd like. before i would have been more willing, but now he's infected with denver's cancer and pricey to boot. the only positive is that he'd probably be a tradeable asset either way.

    i just dont see a single guy on our roster that could relate to him (they are all much older, not the case with jax, except for TP, but TP's a married man), besides mahinmi, and that could be very bad.

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    eh... i understand why people want to give him a chance, but i just dont see it working out the way we'd like. before i would have been more willing, but now he's infected with denver's cancer and pricey to boot. the only positive is that he'd probably be a tradeable asset either way.

    i just dont see a single guy on our roster that could relate to him (they are all much older, not the case with jax, except for TP, but TP's a married man), besides mahinmi, and that could be very bad.
    I don't think it's so much about who he is now. To me, it's more about who he is capable of becoming. When I look at him I don't see the same hardened personality of someone like SJAX, I see a young kid who is able to be molded. The next few years will most likely determine who he will become not only as a player, but, as a person. I think it would be a mistake to not even consider him if we can afford him.

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    What about this trade I worked up as well. The Bulls need active big men that are veterans and have high basketball I.Q. The Spurs need to get younger, more athletic and need some upside at the 2 spot and the 3/4 spots. I feel this trade solves both problems. Let me know what you think:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...4~24&te=&cash=
    I like this trade if we get another big aside from Ian for the upcoming year. I don't mean a stiff, I mean someone with finishing capabilty and some defensive qualities that are favorable for our team.

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    What about this trade I worked up as well. The Bulls need active big men that are veterans and have high basketball I.Q. The Spurs need to get younger, more athletic and need some upside at the 2 spot and the 3/4 spots. I feel this trade solves both problems. Let me know what you think:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...4~24&te=&cash=
    We're gonna need to find another big in free agency, but .

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    What about this trade I worked up as well. The Bulls need active big men that are veterans and have high basketball I.Q. The Spurs need to get younger, more athletic and need some upside at the 2 spot and the 3/4 spots. I feel this trade solves both problems. Let me know what you think:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...4~24&te=&cash=
    Trade makes absolutely no sense from Chicago's end.

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    Trade makes absolutely no sense from Chicago's end.
    Yeah, even with some picks thrown in it would be totally unbalanced, not quite the Grizzlies giveaway to LA, but no far off.

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    Jack patented the crossover, off the foot, out of bounds and crossover/strip the ball moves. He has improved his ball handling post-Spurs.
    haha that was funny but i like jack, and i also like the idea of signing JR Smith

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    Jack was someone we could have used this year against L.A. Maybe Smith could play a similar role. It's hard to tell b/c in Denver, their system is usually run and gun and not as organized, so we get so many varying opinions of him. With him being young, hopefully he could learn Pop's system. Be interesting to see though if sees himself in SA. Could go either way.

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    I think Maggette will leave the Clips if he gets any kind of reasonable offer.

    Let's put it this way, I don't think he and Dumbleavy exchange Christmas cards.

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    I mean this quite seriously after the entertaining banter a few pages back. Is anyone certain JR Smith would really want to play for the Spurs? Seems like a lot of work and focus is required and he doesn't seem the sort to go for it. We're not talking a trade, we're talking a FA signing he'd want to take.

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    I mean this quite seriously after the entertaining banter a few pages back. Is anyone certain JR Smith would really want to play for the Spurs? Seems like a lot of work and focus is required and he doesn't seem the sort to go for it. We're not talking a trade, we're talking a FA signing he'd want to take.
    Good question. To me the bigger question is whether or not the Spurs are interested in him. Admittedly, it's always hard to say with the Spurs, given how much they like to hide their cards.

    That said, they do seem to have a history of going after players who have big games against them and Smith's last two games against the Spurs were really solid (he had 22 in the last one). With that--along with their need for offense--in mind, I suspect they are at least considering him.

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    Kobe Bryant would like to play for Pop, I do not see why J.R. would not:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...Request-070530

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    Kobe Bryant would like to play for Pop, I do not see why J.R. would not:
    Kobe wants to win, JR really doesn't care?

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    How can you say he does not care? He is young and compe ive and on a team that is dysfunctional, I guess everyone on all the playoff teams that did not win a le does not want to win?

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    How can you say he does not care? He is young and compe ive and on a team that is dysfunctional, I guess everyone on all the playoff teams that did not win a le does not want to win?
    How can you say he does? Byron Scott, a more demanding coach than Karl, hated him. Is this worth a $5 million+ gamble to you? To Peter Holt? This is a team that doesn't gamble.

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