"The best coach in the league (and its not even close) is Gregg Popovich"

[E20]

and so was scottie in his final bulls year.....

yeah then Scottie contintued to play like 6 more seasons.

[Tacker]

yeah then Scottie contintued to play like 6 more seasons.

6 more seasons with another team not the bulls

[SRJ]

Mike D'Antoni owns Phil Jackson, re: 2006, 2007 playoffs.

[E20]

6 more seasons with another team not the bulls

So obviously Scotties injury wasn't that bad that he continued to play 6 more seasons. Robinosn was never the same and retired after 3 seasons of limited play.

[E20]

I'm just gonna point ou the 03 championship run. The Spurs won with an old ageing useless Robinson, reserves that composed of Steve Kerr, steve smith, danny ferry all dinosaurs. A young erratic not as good Manu ginobili, a head case in Stephen Jackson, and a young tony parker, with Malik Rose coming off the bench as the 6th man.

[Tacker]

So obviously Scotties injury wasn't that bad that he continued to play 6 more seasons. Robinosn was never the same and retired after 3 seasons of limited play.

What Im trying to say is Scottie Pippen wasnt a top 10 player during the Bulls 2nd 3 peat meaning PHil Jackson basically had 1 top 10 player contradicting with the other guys post...

[E20]

What Im trying to say is Scottie Pippen wasnt a top 10 player during the Bulls 2nd 3 peat meaning PHil Jackson basically had 1 top 10 player contradicting with the other guys post...

He had Michael Jordan, which was enough, but my point is that you can never rate coaches in the nba of which coach is better than which, because every coach who has won a championship has had 1 or more players who are incredibly good and without them the coaches would be nothing. So rating coaches is a no no, rating players or teams is a yes.

And I'll stand my by my homer biased opnion that Pop is the best coach in the league right now.

[Tacker]

He had Michael Jordan, which was enough, but my point is that you can never rate coaches in the nba of which coach is better than which, because every coach who has won a championship has had 1 or more players who are incredibly good and without them the coaches would be nothing. So rating coaches is a no no, rating players or teams is a yes.

And I'll stand my by my homer biased opnion that Pop is the best coach in the league right now.

And Im going to stand by my biased opinion that Phil Jackson is the greatest coach of all time.... but lets get one thing straight...... NO TEAM IN NBA HISTORY HAS WON AN NBA LE WITHOUT 2 ALLSTARS........ Except for the 2003 Spurs, 95 Rockets, 91 Bulls.........

[T Park]

Jackson > Pop

Pop >>>>>>>> Sloan

its not even close.

[PDXSpursFan]

Pop is not the best coach in the league.

Phil Jackson... Jerry Sloan... then Pop. Don't get bias now.

I don't even consider Sloan one of the best coaches on the league. He has NEVER win a championship, even in the old days when he had the best PG & PF (Stockton & Malone). Also, it took him what - a full year to realize that Deron Williams should be the starting PG instead of Keith McLeod

[dg7md]

Professional gambler?

[Pucho!!!]

Also if Phil is so ing good at coaching he should have gotten past the ECSF during those two years Jordan was out.

Best point in this whole thread, so true, so true. Theres more to coaching than being placed in a great situation.

[MI21]

I actually think against everyone but Phil Jackson, Pop is quite likely the best coach in the NBA.

Against Jackson though, his worst tends to come out.

[Oh, Gee!!]

pop's good, but....

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Phil Jackson, love or hate him, may be the best coach the game has ever seen, and it's not just that he had MJ/Scottie and Shaq/Kobe. If you need that explained to you, I don't think you know much about the NBA.

E20's point about the years MJ was out is around the wrong way - somehow Phil coached Scottie (who is not a lead banana) and a bunch of unremarkable players to the ESCFs! That was incredible! Go have a look at those rosters - they are full of dross - yet somehow Phil coaxed them to 55 and 47 wins!

In the late-90s and early-00s, Pop was a decidely average coach - he made some bad mistakes and seemed lost at times. Then, some time in 2002-3 the lightbulb went off and he went from average to very good, and then to excellent by the Finals in 2003... I think he took his licks, learned his lessons, and steadily became one of the best minds in the game. Since then he has proven to be a hall-of-fame coach.

[tmtcsc]

I think people are missing out on how important Tex Winter (Asst. coach and architect of the Triangle offense) was and is to Phil Jackson. Phil is great because of the system. Its pretty damn good. He also has a unique way of motivating each of his players.

Given the same rosters, I would think that Pop would have won as many les as Phil. Its kind of pointless to argue about since at the end of the day, Phil has score board.

If I could change anything about Pop, it would be his stubborness to stick with a sinking plan. Sometimes you have to adjust. I think his faith in his players is some times his down fall. But hey, that's why they love him.

[spurscenter]

Opinion of a professional gambler who sees 1000 games a year.

- part of the interview is about Tim Donaghy scandal and part is about his gambling life -


Haralabos Voulgaris, a Professional Gambler's Take on the Tim Donaghy Scandal

June 11, 2008 2:10 PM

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/...y-Scandal.html



"The flip side of that are the teams/players who do a great job of garnering extra possessions, my numbers tell me the Hornets and the Spurs do this best.

The best coach in the league (and its not even close) is Gregg Popovich. He is without peer in terms of how well he manages a game, as well as prepares his team. It's really not even close, he is just that much better than every other coach in the league. If you are ever unsure of what the correct strategy is in a certain situation, look to the Spurs. If they are doing it, it's probably the right strategy.

There are a lot of coaches who do a poor job with what I call the mathematics of the game, but to be fair, maybe they are better at other aspects of their job like motivation or player development.

However, I have a hard time believing that Doc Rivers could ever make up for his in-game strategy with his ability to motivate or develop players. I would like to have seen how the Celtics would have fared this year if they didn't hire Tom Thibodeau to install a great defensive system. If Popovich is the guy you lean to if you are unsure of what to do, Rivers is certainly the guy you look to if you want to know what NOT to do."

pop by far

he is the best

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Is Harrrababalosss a Spurs fan?

I'm glad somebody asked the question.

[romad_20]

I'm glad somebody asked the question.

He says he's a fan of the game. I would think you'd have to be pretty objective to be a gambler on the NBA for a living.

[Marcus Bryant]

It's amusing that we have 3 pages about how Spurs fans are "homers" or whatever for thinking Pop might be as good as (or, gasp, better than) Jackson when the original assertion apparently was not made by a Spurs fan.

Some of you are re ed.

[z0sa]

Phil is the only guy with pop on the same level

he didnt have the GOAT or anything for 6 of those 9

[rascal]

Pop is a better coach than he is a gm.

[rascal]

It's amusing that we have 3 pages about how Spurs fans are "homers" or whatever for thinking Pop might be as good as (or, gasp, better than) Jackson when the original assertion apparently was not made by a Spurs fan.

Some of you are re ed.

You can call Spur fans homers in any thread on this site and be correct.

[rascal]

I actually think against everyone but Phil Jackson, Pop is quite likely the best coach in the NBA.

Against Jackson though, his worst tends to come out.

Seems that way but Jackson has had the better more talented teams.

[romad_20]

Phil Jackson > Jerry Sloan > Greg Poppovich > Nellie Ball

Sloan couldn't win it all with Stockton and Malone and MJ was gone two years when he had them so quit with this Sloan is better than Pop crap. It's not even close between Pop and Sloan.