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yes，对suprs need younger palyer，同意你的观点。
Everyone is talking strictly about FA signings, what are some ideas for good trades to improve the Spurs? My first crack at it is this:
The Bulls need active big men that are veterans and have high basketball I.Q. The Spurs need to get younger, more athletic and need some upside at the 2 spot and the 3/4 spots. I feel this trade solves both problems. Let me know what you think:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...4~24&te=&cash=
Last edited by DPG21920; 06-11-2008 at 08:43 PM.
yes，对suprs need younger palyer，同意你的观点。
No one is talking trade because the Spurs have no assets that anyone else would want. At this point, Free Agency and the Draft are far more likely to be the sources by which the Spurs replenish their role players.
That is incredibly untrue. The Spurs have a Big 3 that anyone would want (although the Spurs will not trade any of them more than likely) as well as solid veterans such as Oberto, Bowen and Barry. Oberto is a championship caliber center and has a lot of skills and an extremely reasonable contract that many teams would find attractive. He makes 3.5 million compared to someone like Eric Dampier who makes 10.5 million.
No way in the Bulls would do that trade.
the bulls wouldnt trade thabo alone for that package, let alone throw in tyrus. god awful...
spurs just dont have the assets to pull any major moves aside from shuffling our junk with others junk.
if Suprs need trade，we need a better C。
Bonner has the lowest basketball IQ on the Spurs. The Bulls wouldn't do that trade if you added in two first round picks.
Thabo and Tyrus for Bonner and Oberto???? Are you serious? You couldn't get one of those players for Bonner and Oberto, let alone both.
Big 3, like you said, are untouchable.
Oberto is not a championship-calibur center. He's a center who happens to be on a championship-calibur team. I'm not demeaning his importance to the Spurs because he's full of intangibles....but those intangibles make him far more valueable to this team as a player and not as trade bait.
Bowen is the Spurs defensive stopper and as much a part of the team's recent success as the Big 3. AT 37, he is also much more valueable to this team as a player and not as trade bait.
And Barry, he makes vet min and he's 36yrs old. When he was making $6M, he was a valuable trade commodity....and was used as such to acquire Kurt Thomas. Now he's just an over-the-hill shooter making pennies. He'd probably retire if the Spurs didn't bring him back.
Bottom Line: The only Spur that is likely to get traded in the coming months is Matt Bonner, and that would mostly be in an effort to shed salary. Others aren't worth enough or don't make enough to justify what the Spurs would likely receive in return.
What has Thabo done that garners so much respect? Oberto has high basketball I.Q. and a ring and a gold medal. He is a starting center in the NBA on a championship team, you guys are seriously underestimating how many teams would like Oberto, not as their star, but a super solid role player.
He's also clearly limited offensively and had next to no athleticism when the Spurs brought him on board a few years ago...now he's practically nailed to the floor.
I love Oberto for what he brings to the Spurs, but to think that other teams would appreciate those intangibles enough to give up high-potential players on rookie contracts....it's not sound logic.
And BTW, we're not banging on you because you're the "new guy"....
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head over to any bulls or nba board for that matter. propose oberto for thabo straight up. prepare to be laughed/flamed right off the board. you seriously overate the rest of the leagues interest in oberto. KT holds more value than oberto around the league.
We are not underestimating how many teams would like to have Oberto, we are saying that you will not get back players like TT or Sefolosha for Oberto, Bonner etc.
+1And BTW, we're not banging on you because you're the "new guy"....
WELCOME!
Welcome to ST!
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I like this trade!
A couple more like it and we're back!
we have no one to trade... the big 3 are not going to be traded...
As timvp mentioned in another thread, we do have our trade exception.
If you couple that with our picks and Bonner, the Spurs might be able to pull some magic outta the hat.
We'll see.
A team like the Nuggets that's in luxury tax might be willing to sell their 20th pick. The Nets have two #1's. Their 21st pick could be available. They can then package their 26th pick with one of these picks plus Udoka for something.
Portland needs a star SF. If they go after Carmelo, Deng , or Marion, the Spurs need to get in on some of this action. 3 team trades are the best way.
Example: Portland gets Deng, the Bulls get Webster, the 13th, 20th, and 26th picks, and the Spurs get Frye and Jack OR instead just get the 13th pick for Rush or Alexander---an extreme long-shot but something along those lines.
Team A gets the star player, Team B gets the young players and picks to rebuild, and Team C (Spurs) get a good player.
Every year good players are traded for expiring contracts and or picks or in quality for quan y type of deals. The spurs never get into the action to make any of these type of trades to improve. They have to be near the bottom of the league when it comes to making trades .
I'm not sure about KT right now. Other teams are interested in him? I doubt it. Maybe this is the reason why KT resign for 4/5 mill/year less next season.
Oberto is a good player, he played many great games and a few weak games in the regular season but we need young blood like Tyrus and Tabo.
I like the trade.
Oberto isnt a championship caliber center in the D-League.
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