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We should give the trade exception(s) to a team willing to take on Bonner contract.
By "not very good" I meant that he'd have a difficult time cracking the rotation--but with Fin and Horry on the move, we should be thinking in terms of rotation quality players. May not be possible, but that should be the goal. Otherwise, it's probably isn't worth the salary or roster space.
Although, players like Almond and Cook would be Austin eligible and might be worth a 14th or 15th spot for that reason.
Someone like Balkman or Sergio could find a role in the rotation.
We should give the trade exception(s) to a team willing to take on Bonner contract.
Someone more knowledgable could address this but I don't think you can package an exception with a player (Bonner). The exception has to be sent on it's own or with picks.
Regarding ex-Knicks on the roster, didn't Nazr come from the Knicks?
More knowledge isn't needed. The trade exception can't be combined with another player, as you write.
Yes, Nazr came from the Knicks and was a helpful in winning a championship.
Almond and Belinelli seem like perfect guys to go after, but neither will be cheap. Both can probably step in and score right from the get go.
But both were 1st round picks just last year and both were gone by the time the Spurs picked. Their value is less than it was just 12 months ago -- great time to strike (but possibly unrealistic to actually pull it off).
Great Job, but essentially you're telling us we're screwed.Thanks to the Beno Udrih trade, the Spurs currently have a trade exception worth $1.847M that expires on Oct. 29th. This is an overlooked asset the Spurs have this summer that may help them bring in an additional piece to the puzzle.
The best way to use this trade exception is to combine it with draft picks or cash to obtain a player with moderate value. You could also use it to get a player with low value without having to add draft picks or cash if the other team is simply looking to save money or open a roster spot.
Here are some players the Spurs could potentially target:
Renaldo Balkman and Wilson Chandler, New York Knicks
With Donnie Walsh now in control of the Knicks, he may look to trade away some of the players with direct ties to Isiah Thomas. Balkman would be a fantastic option for the Spurs because he's a great rebounder who also gets blocks and steals at the small forward position. The problem would be the Spurs would have to likely give up a lot of assets. Offering the 26th pick and the 45th pick for Balkman might get Walsh's attention but probably won't be enough. Chandler doesn't have as much value but he's another athletic small forward who could fit on the Spurs. Chandler for the 45th and a future second would make sense if Walsh is just looking to clean house.
Daequan Cook, Miami Heat
Cook was the number one target last year for the Spurs in the draft. He showed pretty good promise last year as a rookie on the Heat. The Heat don't really have reason to trade him but perhaps they'd like someone in this draft more than Cook. They have a pick at the beginning and a pick in the middle. If there is someone around 26 they like, Cook would likely be who the Spurs ask for in return.
Sean Williams, New Jersey Nets
Williams is a weedhead with a lackadaisical at ude who also has a low basketball IQ. That said, he's a prolific shotblocker. The Spurs could definitely use a shotblocker who is quick enough to play next to Duncan. Williams fell out of favor late in the year last season and there is talk of the Nets taking another big in the draft this year, so perhaps Williams is the odd man out. Williams for 26 and money could work for both sides.
Shawne Williams, Indiana Pacers
Same name, same flaws. Williams has gotten in trouble a few times and the Pacers are looking to clean up their image. He's a big, long small forward who has an outside shooting touch. Still a bit of a project, he might be attainable for something like a pair of second rounders and cash.
Rodney Carney, Philadelphia 76ers
At this point, Carney is just a good athlete who can also shoot a little bit from the outside. He actually regressed a bit in his second year in the NBA. The Spurs may be intrigued by his raw potential and would give the Sixers two second rounders and cash.
Morris Almond, Utah Jazz
Almond is a natural scorer who averaged 26 points per game in the D-League last season -- including a 51 point outburst against the Austin Toros. The Jazz will likely target a shooting guard this summer in free agency or the draft and if they land one, they may think that there isn't enough room for both Almond and Ronnie Brewer. Almond for the 26th pick and cash may work for both teams.
Marco Belinelli, Golden State Warriors
Belinelli was a bust as a rookie and to top it off, he refused to go to D-League. He can shoot and score but other than that, he does nothing on the basketball court. I don't think the Spurs would be too interested, then again he's a foreign prospect so you never know.
Sergio Rodriguez, Portland Trail Blazers
He's basically in the same boat with Belinelli. Rodriguez flashes talent but he's a turnover machine who doesn't seem capable of running a team. Perhaps the Spurs will look at him as a backup point guard option ... but I doubt it.
Quincy Douby, Sacramento Kings
He has been a bust for the Kings but the Spurs may like his ability to shoot the three and the Kings may want to give him away to simply open a roster spot.
Oleksiy Pecherov, Washington Wizards
A ChumpDumper favorite, I haven't seen Pecherov do much other than shoot flat-footed threes a la Sam Perkins. At seven-foot, he has the potential to spread the floor. At the very least, his resemblance to Stewie would be worth a few chuckles.
I'm more pessimistic about both these guys. In the event that we landed them with the TE, I suspect they'd spend the season in Austin. Even if they could score, the other aspects of their game, especially defense, seem inadequate. I'd rather Chandler or Balkman--Chandler to the Toros or Balkman as a high energy swing 8th man.
I wanted Mo Almond to be drafted last year but the Jazz snagged him earlier. Speaking of the Jazz, there is a team that has done a good job quietly of picking up talent, their FO deserves some props for the signings, draft picks and trades they have pulled off especially for a small market team.
Out of those I like:
Cook
Chandler
Balkman
Cook fits the profile of what you would like out of a PG in the Spurs' system. Big, physical, and can score. Playmaking abilities aren't as important. You could play him with Tony against smaller backcourts.
Chandler and Balkman would be good young role players for the Spurs. If you think that Udoka can see a hefty portion of his minutes at the two either of them makes sense.
#45+Udrih exception should get us Balkman.
You guys know better than I but would Balkman have the potential to be the Bowen Jr.?
Re: Udoka's minutes, I'd rather see him pick up time as a small ball 4. He provides some spacing and better D than Bonner. I'm still for a more creative scorer at the 2, and I don't want Udoka to cut into that players minutes.
Maybe, but not likely. Balkman is a hard worker and plays with heart, which is key to D. He's a guy that many didn't believe belonged in the league. When Zeke drafted him he said he saw a lot of Dennis Rodman--in the on the floor sense--in him. I think he's a guy that could get a steal, a block, 5 rebounds, a hustle save, and some clean up scores in 15 minutes a game. He's also quick and long and would match up well in spot time against players like David West and Boris Diaw. It'd be a steal if we could get him for the trade exception.
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Either 1)NY's management still sucks, 2)your wrong or 3)I'm crazy...
He played 24% of available minutes last year...He rebounds strongly for an SF, doesn't get plays called for him (ie. lives off scraps offensively) and plays decent D. According to David Berri's wins produced methodology, he was NY's second best player (after D. Lee) with WP/48 of .213
I'd certainly make that trade if I was SA. I would also happily offer Bonner + #45 for him...(although this would require further Salary cap shenanigans to get by the trade rules). I would also do something like Splitters Rights + #45 + TE for him.
I'm not sure I'd offer #26. I'd wait until draft day and see what was on the board before doing so...
Splitters rights should not be traded. That is silly. I would hope the FO learned their lesson about trading a player's rights when they are at their lowest value already.
Splitter plays in SA in the future or he stays over in Spain. Period.
Ramon Sessions, the pg from the bucks, might be available for the Kurt Thomas trade exception. With how well he played at the end of the year, he is definitely worth a gamble.
The Kurt Thomas exception is <500K. We're not getting anyone with that.
I think Sessions makes a little over 450,000 a year, he is a rookie that just came up from the D-League.
I'd like Belinelli or Cook or Sean Williams or Carney
sessions will make about 711K next season. and the bucks like him, so why are they giving him away for nothing?
Yea, but even a D-League standout should be able to reel in at least 800,000 a year.
i guess since we cant go back in the past. this question doesnt really matter. but ill ask anyways.......say we dont have that 1.87 million exception on beno, cos we kept him and never had to waste games on helping mighty mouse learn the system, when tony got hurt.........would we have won homecourt advantage and still be playing?
I like Shawne Williams. He's good and young. Can improve in the Spurs system
None of those guys seem worth a damn
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