Your top 10 players all-time

[Indazone]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Dr. J Julius Erving
3. Hakeem Olajuwan
4. Wilt Chamberlin
5. Kobe Bryant
6. Tim Duncan
7. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
8. George Iceman Gervin
9. Moses Malone
10. Larry Bird

[dbreiden83080]

Not in any particular order:

1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
2. Michael Jordan
3. Wilt Chamberlain
4. Earvin Johnson
5. Hakeem Olajuwon
6. Bill Russell
7. Larry Bird
8. Julius Erving
9. Oscar Robertson
10. Tim Duncan

Hakeem is at 5 and Duncan is at 10 and i'm amazed that so many have Bird ahead of Duncan.

[lefty]

Hakeem is at 5 and Duncan is at 10 and i'm amazed that so many have Bird ahead of Duncan.

As he said : " Not in particular order "

[lefty]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Hakeem Olajuwon
3. Larry Bird
4. Oscar Robertson
5. Magic Johnson
6. Tim Duncan
7. Bill Russell
8. Jerry West
9. Isiah Thomas
10. John Havlicek

[dbreiden83080]

As he said : " Not in particular order "

True and i really can't make these lists because too many guys are close, too close to call for me.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Hakeem Olajuwon
3. Larry Bird
4. Oscar Robertson
5. Magic Johnson
6. Tim Duncan
7. Bill Russell
8. Jerry West
9. Isiah Thomas
10. John Havlicek

No Chamberlain? or Abdul-Jabbar?

[Brutalis]

No order....

Jordan
Duncan
Hakeem
Shaq
Kobe
Bird
Magic
Isiah
Stockton
Pistol Pete

Hands down easy to call.

Oscar was great, but played against NOBODIES. Same with Russel and Wilt. Kareem is 11th.

[Brutalis]

Earl the Pearl Monroeeee babyyyyyyyyyy

[Brutalis]

No order....

Jordan
Duncan
Hakeem
Shaq
Kobe
Bird
Magic
Isiah
Stockton
Pistol Pete

Hands down easy to call.

Oscar was great, but played against NOBODIES. Same with Russel and Wilt. Kareem is 11th.

Well, Wilt did play against some good dudes. But he has the talent level of a poor mans Robinson, just back in his day there was no defense nor so many big men we have today. Yes I am alone in that thought.

[dbreiden83080]

No order....

Jordan
Duncan
Hakeem
Shaq
Kobe
Bird
Magic
Isiah
Stockton
Pistol Pete

Hands down easy to call.

Oscar was great, but played against NOBODIES. Same with Russel and Wilt. Kareem is 11th.

People who say Russell is the best Center of all time i just don't get. Who did he play against, there were like 8 teams in the whole league. So Duncan or Hakeem could not have won all those les playing on the Celts in that era.

[TheMACHINE]

1. Sedale Threatt
2. Corey Blunt
3. Nick Van Exel
4. Vlade Divac
5. Eddie Jones
6. Elden Campbell
7. Pig Miller
8. Anthony Peeler
9. Cedric Ceballos
10. George Lynch

[balli]

People who say Russell is the best Center of all time i just don't get. Who did he play against, there were like 8 teams in the whole league. So Duncan or Hakeem could not have won all those les playing on the Celts in that era.

Russell played against Wilt. Both of them would be HOF centers regardless of era and Russell won 11 championships. Maybe his skill set wasn't as complete as Hakeem or Duncan's and I'm sure Duncan or Hakeem, had they played in that era would have had comprable careers, but Hakeem and Duncan are built upon what Russell and Wilt did. They are the giants on whose shoulders all other centers stand. Respect is due, especially for Bill Russell.

And by the way people- Pete Maravich isn't even close to a top ten NBA player.

[Brutalis]

Russell played against Wilt. Both of them would be HOF centers regardless of era and Russell won 11 championships. Maybe his skill set wasn't as complete as Hakeem or Duncan's and I'm sure Duncan or Hakeem, had they played in that era would have had comprable careers, but Hakeem and Duncan are built upon what Russell and Wilt did. They are the giants on whose shoulders all other centers stand. Respect is due, especially for Bill Russell.

And by the way people- Pete Maravich isn't even close to a top ten NBA player.

So Duncan and Hakeem back in Russel's day would have had comparable careers? At least maybe, but TD and Hakeem would have dominated a of a lot more and better in every aspect. Wilt and Russel are not anywhere near the level of them dude.

TD and Hakeem didn't build on neither. How? Duncan grew up knowing about them as a swimmer. What the kind of statement is that anyways. You're a cool poster and all but that's just off the got damn wall right there. They didn't build upon nothing other than define higher skill levels of big men. Good GOD.

And Pistol Pete was the . Don't hate over an early death. He was the greatest college player ever bar none by no length not even MJ bro. Check the stats. Pistol was the but drugs took him over. He had more skill than everyone in this league right now other than Duncan and Kobe. But I admit I am bias on that. Pistol was just amazing to me.

[resistanze]

And by the way people- Pete Maravich isn't even close to a top ten NBA player.

Allen Iverson of the 70s.

[Brutalis]

yeah but Russell had 7 hall of famers on his team while Wilt played with nobody until he went to the Lakers so, sorry I don't buy that crap that Russell was better than Wilt. Look at Wilts numbers against Russell and Wilt still destroyed him..unfortunately he had no all stars on his team like Russell did. Put Wilt on the Celtics instead of Russell and back then they would have won every damn le!

Let me give you some Wilt stats: ! On Nov 24th, 1960, Wilt Chamberlain had the most rebounds in a single game, 55, but lost to a Bill Russell led Boston Celtics team 132-129. Russell scored 18 points, 19rebounds and 5 assists. Chamberlain totals were 34 points, 55 rebounds and 4 assists. Again though, a Celtics victory happened which was typically the result when these 2 played each other.

In 1968 Wilt led the league in assists. Why? The Big Dipper got sick and tired of hearing that all he could do was shoot. So Wilt did what All gamers do...went out and showed them that he was truly well rounded in game.

between the years 1961-63, Wilt scored 50 or more points on the Boston Celtics 6 times? With one of those being a 62 point outing

Wilt Averaged 28.9 points against Russell and scored 40 or more points on Russell 26 times! Wilt also averaged 28.7 rebounds per game against Russell. Wilt was better than Russell..the Celtics as a team were better than the Sixers and Warriors!

Wow, now that I know this Russel isn't . He got all his through his All Star team mates and Celtic fest against 10 teams back in the day.

LMAO Russel.

[lefty]

No Chamberlain? or Abdul-Jabbar?

How could I forget Kareem?

One of my favorite players !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok let's make this a top 11

[balli]

So Duncan and Hakeem back in Russel's day would have had comparable careers? At least maybe, but TD and Hakeem would have dominated a of a lot more and better in every aspect. Wilt and Russel are not anywhere near the level of them dude.

TD and Hakeem didn't build on neither. How? Duncan grew up knowing about them as a swimmer. What the kind of statement is that anyways. You're a cool poster and all but that's just off the got damn wall right there. They didn't build upon nothing other than define higher skill levels of big men. Good GOD.

And Pistol Pete was the . Don't hate over an early death. He was the greatest college player ever bar none by no length not even MJ bro. Check the stats. Pistol was the but drugs took him over. He had more skill than everyone in this league right now other than Duncan and Kobe. But I admit I am bias on that. Pistol was just amazing to me.

Look man. You think Duncan's coaches didn't teach things that Russell/Wilt invented? You think the post was something he came up with on his own? If Tim Duncan just happened to be born in the 40's and had played in the same era, what makes you think he's somehow be any different or that much better than they were? You're arguing against the game having an evolutionary process.

And I'm not even saying they were better talent wise, I'm saying you have to give them some credit for defining the role of Center. During their era they created the prototype of that position and you have to reward that, especially Russell who won 11 rings in the process.

And BTW, my list had Duncan way above Wilt who I had at 10.

[Brutalis]

yeah nobody ever gives Wilt his credit because he didn't win as many les as Russell did, but sorry 1 man can't win a le it takes a whole team.

And could you ever imagine any big man today leading the league in assists like Wilt did back then!

Yuup. Wilt just moved into my top 10. Sorry Pistol Pete.

Stockton is next if I get a newsflash like this again. If dude would have scored the ing ball sometimes the Jazz could have got somewhere. Best PG ever but damn sometimes he was just too passive.

iwonderifhebitesonthis

[Brutalis]

Look man. You think Duncan's coaches didn't teach things that Russell/Wilt invented? You think the post was something he came up with on his own? If Tim Duncan just happened to be born in the 40's and had played in the same era, what makes you think he's somehow be any different or that much better than they were? You're arguing against the game having an evolutionary process.

And I'm not even saying they were better talent wise, I'm saying you have to give them some credit for defining the role of Center. During their era they created the prototype of that position and you have to reward that, especially Russell who won 11 rings in the process.

And BTW, my list had Duncan way above Wilt who I had at 10.

You think Russel and Wilt invented the post? Is that some kind of joke? You think big men naturally don't see those advantages regardless of who did it first? Think about it. They didn't "invent" anything.

Not to get under your skin, but you bringing up some evolutionary process just shows your defeat and rebuttal from our little discussion. You go on to talk about give credit when I wasn't commenting or talking about that to begin with. Every old gets credit and all that lame morale make you feel better dumb . TD had a natural ability, just like many do. And given he had been in Russel's shoes he would have excelled and probably not got owned by ole Wilt so much.

Nobody is talking about giving credit. Nobody cares either.

And to add why even rank the top 10 when it includes players of all generations if you are going to pimp the evolutionary process crap. Passssss.

[balli]

Yuup. Wilt just moved into my top 10. Sorry Pistol Pete.

Stockton is next if I get a newsflash like this again. If dude would have scored the ing ball sometimes the Jazz could have got somewhere. Best PG ever but damn sometimes he was just too passive.

iwonderifhebitesonthis

Oh I'll bite. What position did Stock play? Oh yeah. And what's a PG's primary responsibility? To distribute the ball?

Stockton- 15,000 ast
Everyone else- 10,000 or less
Think about that, he has 50% more assists than the #2 guy.

What else do you want from your PG? Steals?

Stockton- 3,200
MJ- 2,600
Payton- 2,400

Plus he got those without gambling.

Furthermore he only missed about 20 or so games in 18 years and I'm convinced he's have at least one ring if Malone didn't it up for him. Magic was a better player, Stockton was the best PG ever.

[Brutalis]

Oh I'll bite. What position did Stock play? Oh yeah. And what's a PG's primary responsibility? To distribute the ball?

Stockton- 15,000 ast
Everyone else- 10,000 or less
Think about that, he has 50% more assists than the #2 guy.

What else do you want from your PG? Steals?

Stockton- 3,200
MJ- 2,600
Payton- 2,400

Plus he got those without gambling.

Furthermore he only missed about 20 or so games in 18 years and I'm convinced he's have at least one ring if Malone didn't it up for him. Magic was a better player, Stockton was the best PG ever.

It. Was. A. Joke.

You're not supposed to bite.

When people do that best leave it alone.

I happened to be kidding but most people don't.

So next time I wouldn't draw myself out like that, just saying!

[balli]

When people do that best leave it alone.

I know, but...

It was ing Stockton man! Stockton.

If it were BY FAR your favorite player ever, that never gets talked about, ever, you'd probably have something to say too.

I never get to talk about him having a ring, so please just let me bring up his legacy in peace.

[shelshor]

Celtic much?

Since Russell was still a Don

[Spurminator]

1. Jordan
2. Wilt
3. Magic
4. Kareem
5. Duncan
6. Russell
7. Robertson
8. Bird
9. Hakeem
10. Shaq

[leemajors]

Magic
Jordan
Kareem
Hakeem
Russell
Kobe
Bird
Oscar
Wilt
Shaq


You can interchange the last five, but my top five are by far the greatest forces that this league has ever seen... especially in the playoffs.

At first I had Duncan on here but then I had to ask myself... "what is Duncan GREAT at?" Sure he is a big time winner, and good at everything except for ft's, but he is not GREAT at anything. Everyone else on my list was Great at something.

There are 22 guys ahead of TD in the all-time PPG list.
15 guys ahead of TD on the all-time rebound list.
He is not on the assist list.
11 guys ahead of him on the all-time blocks list.

Also, from here on out, Duncans averages will fall, which will drop him even further on the all-time stats list.

who cares when you're pretty damn good at everything.