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    huh really why would the bulls go for that?

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    huh really why would the bulls go for that?
    Cause Oberto is a Championship Caliber Center.

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    Because the Bulls have plenty of people at that position (sg/sf), they have no veteran leadership in the position they desperately need and Oberto has an extremely reasonable contract. The Bulls also have to tie up major money in re-signing Luol Deng and Ben Gordon. So when those two players (Thabo and Tyrus) have contracts that expire in 2 years, they will have to go way over the cap to re-sign them. Can not keep everyone and the Bulls are cheap, hence, Vinny Del Negro...

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    Vhn: you have dodged all my questions. At least I am trying to back up what I say with logic and quantifiable answers. You just say random things. By the way P.J. Brown and Diop are no better than Oberto. They are solid, just like Oberto.

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    huh really why would the bulls go for that?
    well because they need a decent cheap big man....


    oberto didnt have a really good year. to me he was WAY better last year and finished really well around the basket.

    i think the bulls would love to have someone like oberto. its just they dont have another big that will compliment him well like duncan does.

    but i can see them maybe doing oberto for thomas... but thats it not both players.

    bulls could careless about thomas right now...especially since they should draft beasley

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    Just cause they can careless about them doesn't mean they are going to give him away along with another young guy.

    And I made my case DPG.. Diop and Brown are both FA this summer (I think on Diop) and they can be had.. and as you say are maybe not better then Oberto but just as solid.. so why give up two young guys for someone that you don't need to trade for? Thomas still has value around the league.. if Darko can get you the 15th pick (stuckey) I'm sure they can do better then the 26th and Oberto. And even with that I still say they get better value throwing them in a bigger deal.. and Oberto still doesn't answer their need for a back to the basket center. Anways IMO the bulls are just going to small ball it with Noah at center.. that's what they did last year.. and if they need a vet presence that bad they will swing the number one for Wade or some real Championship Caliber player. I mean does Oberto make them better? No... Is Oberto worth giving up a 2 players on their rookie contracts that have potential (one being a top 5 pick a couple years ago?) NO. Bulls have no reason to do it.. this is a trade that helps you guys but does nothing for the Bulls.

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    There is such a thing as salary cap though, and like I said, you trade to get contracts that will allow for you to be reasonable. They can not just sign everyone they want, there are only so many roster spaces and so much money to go around. That is why a trade works. Not saying it is perfect, but I do not think it is terrible.

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    Yea and if they are over the cap they have the MLE to work with and can offer one of them half of that.. still no reason to trade them for the package..

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    It's not terrible it's just not realistic. Sorry to say but as an outside fan of your team you have nothing outside the big three that is of real trading value.

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    Well that is where we disagree my friend!

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    That's cool.

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