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Sorry, Lakers fan. I still give you guy full credit for beating the Spurs, but come off the bull that Sasha did anything special against Manu.
His defense has been awful against a slower Ray Allen.
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The guy had a great year, I was waiting for the playoffs for him to crumble. Unfortunately for the Spurs it happened too late.
Hope we don't have anymore "Get Sasha" threads.
Wait till next year, Manu healthy will own that . His eyes will light up when he comes anywhere near him
The Lakers got away with RADMANOVIC (possibly the laziest defender in the league) on Manu for stretches. That tells you all you need to know about Manu's health.
Yup, I tried over and over again to explain it to them, but most Laker fans wouldn't accept it - that was not Manu out there. That was a shadow of Manu, and if he hadn't been injured that series would've had a different ending.
The Finals are showing just how ordinary a team the Lakers are. They can't even beat a Celtics team with injuries and Doc Rivers coaching for Pete's sake!
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True dat!
I'll give Buya credit. He's graduated from scrubsville to a man who might hit a shot. But yeah a healthy manu torches his dirty european ass.
I still think it's impossible to convince the bulk of thick-headed laker fans that Manu was injured.
They will go to the grave believing that Sasha and the Lakers' team defense shut down Manu.
The only Laker fans who believed Sasha could shutdown a fully healthy Ginobli are the trolls. Don't know why it bothers you so much to be honest.
Ginobli wasn't 100%, Lakers took advantage and won the series. Get over it. Injuries happen all the time and they aren't fair, nobody said winning the championship didn't involve a certain amount of luck.
Inconsistency is not an injury. Explain 20+ game one night followed by stinker on another. That pattern was seen through the whole of the play-offs. Manu was simply out of sinc and if you ever played basketball you'll know what I'm talking about.
i know by posting im contributing to the thread but can we stop talking about this ggot already?
Yea, no way in was Manu even 80% in this years playoffs. Manu would have torched fufu if he was healthy. He would have fouled out trying to guard Manu. Laker fans love to dream and take credit when it's not deserved, that's for sure.
My God...I know this will sound crazy but I've played basketball before...for the majority of my life actually (yes I know, I live in the U.S...who would've guessed I'd play basketball of all sports?)
You're a dumbass. You do realize he originally injured his ankle in the second game of the playoffs vs. phoenix, right? And it got worse and worse as the playoffs wore on.
But I've already posted too much on this subject. So yeah, that's all I'm going to say to idiotic comments like yours.
Again, you're a dumbass.
Anyway, this thread is about Sasha really. The guy is getting balled up OFF THE DRIBBLE by Ray Allen. That speaks volumes. I still think Sasha is a decent player and plays some respectable defense sometimes. But yeah...Ray Allen's leaving him behind in his dust.
I think it's impossible to convince some of the thick-headed Spurs fans that it doesn't matter if Manu was injured or not. The Spurs lost in five to a much better team.
That's where we differ. Okay, I swear, this is the last time I'll post about this (I think).
They weren't "much better." It did matter. It's not being "thick-headed," it's called seeing the obvious.
Staying healthy is a part of winning championships. We didn't accomplish it. Lakers beat us.
But it did matter and in my personal opinion, I think Spurs would've taken the series in 6 with a healthy Manu. That's all I'm saying. And would've, could've, should've don't win championships.
I apologize to everyone who may be getting tired of me going over this. I'm not too familiar with being a part of a message board (spurstalk is the only one I'm a part of). I forget that there are ignorant people on boards, especially one as big as this...and there always will be.
Time to learn to ignore and pick my threads wisely. I thought I learned that already, but I got sucked into arguing with brick walls on this one.
The Spurs lost in five games. The Spurs gave up huge leads more than once. The Spurs lost at home. It's called seeing the obvious.
Right. You should have stopped there. If the Spurs had lost in seven you might have had some case to continue. They didn't.
The Spurs didn't play good consistent basketball at any time during the entire season. They didn't play 48 minutes for any appreciable stretch during the playoffs. They played desperation ball enough to sort of focus enough to win 4 out of 5 against New Orleans, and seemed to have a hangover after each series win that cost them opportunities in the subsequent series. If the Spurs had played 48 minutes to their potential, they could have won the series. If the Spurs had played defense like they did in stretches they could have won the series. If Andrew Bynum and Manu had both been completely healthy the Lakers probably would have won it in 4. Again, none of that matters.
Not sure how I became ignorant or a "brick wall" during this discussion. I'm actually one of the people who is getting tired of you going over this. Funny that you apologize to people that have to read this whiny bull until they point out that you are incorrect, at which point you seem to lash out. My guess is that you're still not over the loss to the Lakers, particularly since you seem to grasp the concept that all your ifs and buts won't change anything. That said, you still cling to that one little nugget like a life preserver. Manu had one really good game in the series, which indicates to me that he wasn't so injured that he couldn't compete. He just didn't play particularly well, and the whole team failed to play consistently for entire games, and since the series was basically a microcosm of the season, it shouldn't be such a surprising result. The Lakers were a better team all year long, and there's a ton of evidence to support that, not least of which was home court advantage in the playoffs. It's no great failure for the Spurs not to have won, and they certainly had their opportunities and failed to capitalize. But an inability to shut up about how injured Manu was is low class. You probably know that but the wound to the hated Lakers is still too fresh for you to accept it.
I love you too. You do realize that this load of crap you just have written doesn't explain Manus inconsistency, right?
Again, I love you too.
Too much talk about Sasha on here... he's an inconsistent bench player. Why is he even brought up?
I tip my hat to you, sir.
Tough loss tonight. Trust me, Spurs fans know how this feels. No elite team blows huge leads better than the Spurs.
Good posts Obstructed View. Mikekim does not want to accept that the lakers were the better team during the regular season (had #1 seed ) and were better during the playoffs.
I agree, Obstructed views points on the subject are well worth reading. Highly recommend!
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