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What brought you to that conclusion...First of all Udoka is OLD. We've seen his ceiling, he'll only get acclimated a la Oberto.
I've seen the kid play, he's not a chump at all and has more upside than Udoka. Udoka has never thrown it down a la Jason Richardson.
First of all Udoka is OLD. We've seen his ceiling, he'll only get acclimated a la Oberto.
Azubuike's edge over J.R. Smith is his demeanor despite J.R.'s freakish athleticism is I haven 't seen young ego problems that J.R.'s displayed.
What brought you to that conclusion...First of all Udoka is OLD. We've seen his ceiling, he'll only get acclimated a la Oberto.
LLE or the $2.5 mil after using the of the MLE...whats the difference?
For having so much confidence in him they sure have alot of guards.
Jack For Harris? I never heard that one...slight problem is Devin makes over $10 mil per & Jack is making $1.5 +-....maybe thats why it never happened?
i think he's perfect for the spurs. great perimeter D and an hit the open shots. younger bowen in the making
Well, you must live under a rock because it was openly discussed ad naseum for a week last February. Jack was part of a three way discussion that included other contracts, so that accounts for the difference in the contracts.
And, yes, they do have a lot of guards. See if you can't follow the plot: Portland wants to free up roster spots. In order to do that, they want to trade 2 or 3 decent players for a very good player. Jack, in theory, would be part of a package that would land one such player.
If they can't do this, they might trade two or three guys in seperate deals to free up the space. That is plan B, though.
In general, you should try not to be such a jack ass.
Someone humor me, and understand that after Artest, which won't happen, I favor Azubuike as our free agent choice.
Azubuike averaged 8 pts and shot 37% from beyond the arc last season. He made $700,000. Why do we think the Spurs will offer him the MLE? That seems like an unjustifiable pay increase, especially given what they paid Udoka, who is no worse a player. The Spurs won't overpay for anyone. It's a matter of principle.
I ask because, given the roster crunch, it seems unlikely that the Spurs will split the MLE, or that there is a combination that makes sense as a split.
If that's the case, I think the Spurs either plan to offer Azubuike something like 2.5 or 3 and leave the rest of the MLE unspent, or they will offer the full MLE to someone deserving of the full MLE.
Assume the latter: Artest won't be available, Maggette is out of the price range, Jones is a spot up player, Delfino is a shoddy option and would require overpaying to compete with Europe, the Nuggets look poised to match on JR Smith, and the Lakers will match Vujacic offers. Who does that leave? Tony Allen? Maybe, but even more so than Azubuike, one couldn't justify a 6 million dollar expenditure on him. Ariza? Ditto.
Siskauskas? Hmm. I wonder if those rumors were more substantial than we gave them credit.
What do you think?
Spurstalk favorite Kill Bill seems to think the Spurs and Rockets (who reportedly both had interest) won't be able to match European offers with the MLE. But I think there's a chance he could be talked into it. This will probably be his last chance to come over, and he fills a glaring need in San Antonio.
He is Spurs type player and Popovich type player. In US fans do not understand his value. Only issue for Siska is he very much play game at Euroleague speed. This is big issue for NBA.
But thing with Siska is very high IQ for game, very great shooter, very great shooting range and also he is very good passer and very talent one on one player with many different move and way to beat defender.
It just he play game at Euroleague speed. He definite Spurs type player but also must have year or two to adjust to NBA speed. Could maybe be helpful player by playoff similar to how Scola do in Rockets.
What's his current contract? What are Euro teams offering him? Other than the Lithuanian report, anything more recent about where he intends to sign?
He is with CSKA and he have say since that he is interest in NBA for 3 year contract. He have offers from Spurs and Rockets but both is able only give MLE for 3 years and this what they offer. This as he say is big pay cut for him and he not feel do this plus move to other side of world fair to family. So he would want same money as Europe.
He had €2.5 million from CSKA for year plus €1 million euro from PAO contract with CSKA must also pay as buyout from PAO. These is both net money.
€3.5 million is like $5.5 million of dollars. So he is make like $5.5 million of dollars after tax. NBA MLE is similar amount but is gross before tax. So for him be almost like half as much money as he make now if he accept MLE.
Same problem as Papaloukas. He gets what is like 3 years $20 millions for NBA contract from Olympiacos. Pistons and Raptors tell him he can have MLE this summer but is all they can pays so he take more big contract and go back to Greece.
So he's not an option. Maybe Pop and Manu could call him and say pretty please.
I've not seen Azubuike's name attached to any team interest, Spurs or otherwise. With Baron Davis opting out, and reports that the Warriors offered a big deal to Arenas, it's very possible that we have no compe ion for Azubuike. That is, in addition to deals for Ellis and Biedrins, the Warriors will probably have to sign B-Diddy for more than he's worth. They're out of money.
Azubuike could be had for cheap. Any idea why the Spurs don't have any reported interest? They just layin' low, or are they sour on him?
maybe they do have interest... we just have not read anything yet...it is only the first day... will see how much things heat up over the next couple of days...
Yeah, they might. But my point is that I've not read of one team that is targeting Azubuike.
What exactly is this guy gonna offer the spurs that Udoka doesn't already provide.. unless you think Udoka is a career backup, then.. perhaps. But if were agreed were looking for good bench players... then..
I'd much rather see the Spurs obtain a skill-set along the lines of Michael Pietrus, who has more size, length, leaping ability and a "take it to the rack mentality" not to mention block shots, something the team could use more right now.
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Udoka isn't as good as azubuike.
Not even close.
Azubuike and Udoka are two totally different players.
No doubt Azubuike is better than Udoka, not to mention younger. Only problem I have with this is the need for size and length on the wing, and Azubuike is about the same height as Udoka, which wouldn't make us any taller.
But if we sign Kelenna, I'm all for it.
A starting two guard.
Yay, Pietrus can dunk. Take it to the rack ability? You obviously haven't seen Kelenna play if you think he can't take it to the rack.I'd much rather see the Spurs obtain a skill-set along the lines of Michael Pietrus, who has more size, length, leaping ability and a "take it to the rack mentality" not to mention block shots, something the team could use more right now.
Here, let me help you:
Aside from that, you're wondering what Kelenna gives us that Pietrus doesn't?
Let's see:
Kelenna averaged more points per game, more rebounds per game, more assists per game, less turnovers per game, and had higher FG%, FT%, and 3pt %.
Oh, and you're right - Pietrus has a ton more length than Kelenna, dude's a whopping one inch taller. OMG! But clearly Pietrus trumps all that because he averages a whopping 0.2 blocks per game more than Pietrus.
You'd have been better of saying you haven't ever heard of Kelenna so you don't like him as much instead of opening your mouth and looking like a fool.
So with Davis out of the picture, is Azubuike still a possibility? Nellie said Barnes is gone. With Ellis moving over to SG, that opens up a starting spot. I guess perhaps if the Warriors sign Maggette and one of Azubuike or Pietrus ... the Spurs may have a shot at the other.
Sucks though because it got a whole lot harder to steal either one.
Yep. I suspect they keep Kelenna now. They like him, we would have just been putting GS in a bind if Baron was still on the books.
I don't see them retaining either Barnes or Pietrus. My guess is they let both walk, re-sign Kelenna, and give some minutes to Wright.
The fallout from BD to the Clips sucks for us, unless GS turns around and goes after Maggette.
If the Warriors don't bring in Arenas, then my guess is that they'll re-sign everybody.
I can imagine all the restricted FAs will be resigned or matched, Pietrus is the only Warrior that may end up with a different team now. Unless Arenas picks GS that is.
Any news about KA? Specific teams that are interested?
So like I said...
Do you think G State would match and MLE offer for him?A starting two guard.
Yay, Pietrus can dunk. Take it to the rack ability? You obviously haven't seen Kelenna play if you think he can't take it to the rack.
Here, let me help you:
Aside from that, you're wondering what Kelenna gives us that Pietrus doesn't?
Let's see:
Kelenna averaged more points per game, more rebounds per game, more assists per game, less turnovers per game, and had higher FG%, FT%, and 3pt %.
Oh, and you're right - Pietrus has a ton more length than Kelenna, dude's a whopping one inch taller. OMG! But clearly Pietrus trumps all that because he averages a whopping 0.2 blocks per game more than Pietrus.
You'd have been better of saying you haven't ever heard of Kelenna so you don't like him as much instead of opening your mouth and looking like a fool.
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