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    I think the best use of the trade exception isn't to get a so-so project but is to give another team some salary cap relief.

    The team that strike me as a trade partner is Washington. They will face the luxury tax by resigning Arenas, Jamison and maybe Roger Mason.
    Pecherov and Mcguire have been quite crappy in their rookie year. Spurs can take both with their TE and save some money to wizards. Wizards will need to have some incentives to Spurs like a first round pick swap.

    A fantasy offseason :
    Spurs trade #26+TE+cash for #18+McGuire+Pecherov
    Two months after this trade, Spurs trade Bonner+McGuire+Vaughn to Seattle for Earl Watson. Seattle do this trade to save some money.

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    Good take bruno, i just hope the spurs won't do that,( but somehow get balkman) ^^

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    Watson makes 6.2 mil next season and 6.6 mil the year after. Too much for a backup PG.

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    I think the best use of the trade exception isn't to get a so-so project but is to give another team some salary cap relief.

    The team that strike me as a trade partner is Washington. They will face the luxury tax by resigning Arenas, Jamison and maybe Roger Mason.
    Pecherov and Mcguire have been quite crappy in their rookie year. Spurs can take both with their TE and save some money to wizards. Wizards will need to have some incentives to Spurs like a first round pick swap.

    A fantasy offseason :
    Spurs trade #26+TE+cash for #18+McGuire+Pecherov
    Two months after this trade, Spurs trade Bonner+McGuire+Vaughn to Seattle for Earl Watson. Seattle do this trade to save some money.
    damn Bruno I'd hire you as my GM if i had a Basketball team!

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    Spurs trade #26+TE+cash for #18+McGuire+Pecherov.
    Do you really think that the Wizards would trade down 8 slots and get rid of 2 of their younger players with potential just to get out of their luxury tax problem?

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    None of those guys seem worth a damn
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    Do you really think that the Wizards would trade down 8 slots and get rid of 2 of their younger players with potential just to get out of their luxury tax problem?
    If they consider Pecherov and McGuire as "players with potential", they won't do that kind of trade.
    However, I'm not sure at all that they are considered like that. They haven't had a good rookie season and Wizards can consider them as dead weight like Spurs with Butler last summer.
    Their combined salary is $2.2M for next year and I can see Wizards trying to unload them with their luxury tax troubles.
    Trading down 8 slots is quite a big prize to dump them but you had to consider that the #26 pick will cost them less than the #18 and that Spurs could sweet a little the trade with cash and/or second round pick.

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    I think the best use of the trade exception isn't to get a so-so project but is to give another team some salary cap relief.

    The team that strike me as a trade partner is Washington. They will face the luxury tax by resigning Arenas, Jamison and maybe Roger Mason.
    Pecherov and Mcguire have been quite crappy in their rookie year. Spurs can take both with their TE and save some money to wizards. Wizards will need to have some incentives to Spurs like a first round pick swap.

    A fantasy offseason :
    Spurs trade #26+TE+cash for #18+McGuire+Pecherov
    Two months after this trade, Spurs trade Bonner+McGuire+Vaughn to Seattle for Earl Watson. Seattle do this trade to save some money.
    I'm not sure how feasible your proposal is, but it's one of the best ones I've heard.

    As far as trading for Watson though, I wouldn't be in favor of that. Watson might be a good defender, but his shooting and BBIQ leave a of alot to be desired.

    I wouldn't have any problem putting Pecherov in a deal, but Mcguire is a different story. McGuire is the perfect diamond in the rough small-ball 4 we've been looking for. His athleticism, defense, shot-blocking, and rebounding have all proven to translate at the N.B.A level when he's gotten the time on the court. The problem is the minutes haven't been there consistently enough with the log-jam they've had at the 3/4. So to say that McGuire or even Pecherov had crappy years isn't really all that fair.

    If the Spurs could somehow end up with the wing they wanted at 18, McGuire, and find a way to get Chalmers..... Well, it aint gonna happen but... If it did??? I think I'd need to go change my pants.

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    What other teams are facing Luxury Tax ? Denver &...?

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    I hope we use the TE instead of letting it expire..I think it is important for us to use every means necessary to improve this team

    The best player IMO who makes less than $1.874 mil is Jarrett Jack & I know we have had interest in him in the past(we dangled Beno..they declined..go figure), but I think that Portland may be looking to move him now & the TE along with a pick would probably get it done, so that would solve the backup PG problem...we address the SF spot with the MLE & draft picks & offer Adonal Foyle the LLE for backup big.

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    If they consider Pecherov and McGuire as "players with potential", they won't do that kind of trade.
    However, I'm not sure at all that they are considered like that. They haven't had a good rookie season and Wizards can consider them as dead weight like Spurs with Butler last summer.
    Their combined salary is $2.2M for next year and I can see Wizards trying to unload them with their luxury tax troubles.
    Trading down 8 slots is quite a big prize to dump them but you had to consider that the #26 pick will cost them less than the #18 and that Spurs could sweet a little the trade with cash and/or second round pick.
    Thanks.

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    What other teams are facing Luxury Tax ? Denver &...?
    I think that's it.

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    Knicks?

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    What other teams are facing Luxury Tax ? Denver &...?
    Mavs, Cavs, Celtics, Nuggets, Knicks, Lakers

    borderliners: Rockets, Pacers, Suns, Blazers

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    Since the Rockets owe us 1 they should let us get Mike Harris for a 2nd rounder

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    I have an interesting idea. Say Dekembe wants to play one more year? Would a sign and trade be out of the question? I know we want to focus on the younger players, but having him wouldn't be all that bad. He might not play unless we have hurt bigs, but you never know when you will need an experanced vet who can block shots. Plus he is 58 so he fills Robert's spot great for le of "That oldest guy on the Spurs that played with Wilt and West."
    As long as he's the 11th or 12th man, I'd be all for it.

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    A Spurs frontcourt rotation of:
    Duncan/Oberto/Mutombo
    Mahinmi/Thomas/Bonner

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    A Spurs frontcourt rotation of:
    Duncan/Oberto/Mutombo
    Mahinmi/Thomas/Bonner

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    Make it happen.

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    i was over on the bulls board

    damn it we shouldve filed the papers earlier when we were going to deal with the bulls

    fukn taryn thomas is 6'11 now he grew what? 2 inches? nice.....

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    what are the chances of us being able to get McGuire and Almond?

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    what are the chances of us being able to get McGuire and Almond?
    Neither one was able to do much with limited minutes in the NBA, but Almond had some huge D-league games.

    That, plus the fact that Utah is probably less likely to make a trade that may help the Spurs (since they have a good chance of meeting in the playoffs) suggests to me that the Spurs may have a shot at McGuire, but probably a much smaller chance of picking up Almond. The scenario Bruno came up with seems plausible.

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    I don't see Utah giving up Almond for anything.

    McGuire could be had, I guess.

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    Thats what I am saying, keep him around as a back up in case a big gets hurt. Say Fabio gets an ankle sprain, and Tim gets in foul trouble. Its Super Dekembe to the rescuse!
    Spurs need to get younger this summer, not prehistoric.

    If we are at the point where Dikembe needs to play significant minutes for us, may as well just tank and get a high pick next year.

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    Pecherov was hurt most of the year, not sure how Washington really views him.

    They like McGuire, but if they re-sign everyone they are expected to, there won't be minutes for him, so perhaps he could be had.

    I could also see us using an exception + picks + cash to move up in the draft to get someone we like (Washington at 18, Cleveland at 19, Denver at 20 all seem to fit the bill of capped out teams who might be looking for some cap relief).

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