Doctors support universal health care: survey

[GaryJohnston]

I enjoy my quality of healthcare now. I went to school and have a good job now. I've made something of my life. I do not want to my quality of healthcare to decrease because Obama wants universal healthcare. Moving towards universal healthcare will decrease the quality of heathcare for all americans. Tough if you threw your life away and now can't afford decent healthcare.

[ElNono]

I enjoy my quality of healthcare now. I went to school and have a good job now. I've made something of my life. I do not want to my quality of healthcare to decrease because Obama wants universal healthcare. Moving towards universal healthcare will decrease the quality of heathcare for all americans. Tough if you threw your life away and now can't afford decent healthcare.

Lets just hope you don't get a chronic condition that prevents you from working or driving, like a retina detachment or so. By the time you are done with surgery and treatment, you'll be knee deep in debt and living off social security.
I sincerely hope that day never comes, but if it does, you can kiss your bright future, college degree and arrogance goodbye. When stuff like that happen to you or people near you, you get some degree of perspective on why Me, Me, Me and screw everybody else doesn't work.

[jochhejaam]

Lets just hope you don't get a chronic condition that prevents you from working or driving, like a retina detachment or so. By the time you are done with surgery and treatment, you'll be knee deep in debt and living off social security.
I sincerely hope that day never comes, but if it does, you can kiss your bright future, college degree and arrogance goodbye. When stuff like that happen to you or people near you, you get some degree of perspective on why Me, Me, Me and screw everybody else doesn't work.

Emergency health care is out there for everyone who is uninsured. Top-notch health care for every American is not affordable. Let's set up vote for a National Health Care program, and tax those that vote affirmative, to the extent that A1 health care for all is properly funded (It's gonna be a whopper of a tax). It's a "put your money where your mouth is" vote. Voluntary Socialism, if you will.
Any guesses as to what percentage of voters are still in favor of National Health Care?

I personally don't need Big Brother taking control of every facet of my life in a so-called effort to provide for me, and protect me from the day to day maladies that may come my way. The government, through massive en lement programs (I'm for a limited amount of Government assistance) has already removed much of the incentive for many to attempt to extract themselves from poverty. Many are completely satisified living off of en lements, that is, living off of the monies taken from those that choose to work hard to earn a living.
National Health-Care cuts two ways; it increases the tax burden for those that work hard, while increasing the percentage of individuals who are content to let the Government give them a free ride through life (read, let hard working taxpayers give them a free ride through life).

Life is full of risks, you take the good with the bad, and at times, the bad puts some of us down, or takes some of us out. Such is life.


"The sun rises on evil and good, and it rains on the just and the unjust"

[TDMVPDPOY]

Well my old man is in hospital atm, and yes we dont have private health care....thank god theres medicare....

[jochhejaam]

Well my old man is in hospital atm, and yes we dont have private health care....thank god theres medicare....

Yep, medicare's good.

[ElNono]

Life is full of risks, you take the good with the bad, and at times, the bad puts some of us down, or takes some of us out. Such is life.

I'm not talking emergency services here. So basically what you're telling me is that if I have a chronic condition that lasts years to treat, preventing me from working and having insurance, I should just jump in front of a train and save everyone some money? Is that the capitalism way?
You know, some people would *LOVE* to get back to work and start making their own money, and can't. What do we do with those?
Plus if you have the means, you can always go in a private system.
I lived a good 17+ years in a country with state-funded healthcare. The care wasn't the greatest, but if you had the means, you could always get private insurance and go to the more fancier hospitals or clinics.
The thing is, if you did NOT have the means, at least you had something to fall back to. And no, there was no long lists of anything there. Just the care didn't have all the bells and whistles, technologically speaking, that the fancy places had.

[xrayzebra]

I'm not talking emergency services here. So basically what you're telling me is that if I have a chronic condition that lasts years to treat, preventing me from working and having insurance, I should just jump in front of a train and save everyone some money? Is that the capitalism way?
You know, some people would *LOVE* to get back to work and start making their own money, and can't. What do we do with those?
Plus if you have the means, you can always go in a private system.
I lived a good 17+ years in a country with state-funded healthcare. The care wasn't the greatest, but if you had the means, you could always get private insurance and go to the more fancier hospitals or clinics.
The thing is, if you did NOT have the means, at least you had something to fall back to. And no, there was no long lists of anything there. Just the care didn't have all the bells and whistles, technologically speaking, that the fancy places had.

Well for one thing. If you have a condition that makes you disabled and unable to work their is a thing called Social Security and with that, after two years, comes a thing called Medicare. And yes, it doesn't matter how old you are, if you qualify for disability you also qualify for Medicare, after the waiting period. If you cant afford to pay bills while on disability there is a program called medicaid. And believe me, medicaid pays for much more than most insurance policies and medicare.

One other question, why did you leave the good life after 17+ years? Just curious.

[GaryJohnston]

Lets just hope you don't get a chronic condition that prevents you from working or driving, like a retina detachment or so. By the time you are done with surgery and treatment, you'll be knee deep in debt and living off social security.
I sincerely hope that day never comes, but if it does, you can kiss your bright future, college degree and arrogance goodbye. When stuff like that happen to you or people near you, you get some degree of perspective on why Me, Me, Me and screw everybody else doesn't work.

Actually, I won't ever be living off of social security. I work in healthcare myself and have exceptional healthcare insurance. Im doing okay.

[ElNono]

Well for one thing. If you have a condition that makes you disabled and unable to work their is a thing called Social Security and with that, after two years, comes a thing called Medicare. And yes, it doesn't matter how old you are, if you qualify for disability you also qualify for Medicare, after the waiting period. If you cant afford to pay bills while on disability there is a program called medicaid. And believe me, medicaid pays for much more than most insurance policies and medicare.

One other question, why did you leave the good life after 17+ years? Just curious.

I know how the whole system works. A person very close to me had to go through the whole ordeal, that's why I know it pretty up close. My point was that some individuals think that bad can't happen to them, and everyone on medicare/medicaid is a freewheeler, and that's not always necessarily the case.
About why I left the good life, it had to do with the market I specialize in. There were very few interesting/challenging jobs in the technology field back then. So about 9 years ago I got offers to work in the Netherlands and the US. I've been to Europe before (I have Italian citizenship), and I figured I'll give the US a try. Specially since the Internet bubble was in full swing here.
Eventually I married a US citizen, and the moving around had to stop.
I like this country. I think the justice system, when it works, it's the best you can get around the globe. Work wise, things didn't develop as I had hoped, but you always have the sensation that you could hit a home run sooner or later. I think the health care part needs work. I'm not sure if it necessarily has to be the universal health care system or health insurances need regulation, or something in between.
I work with doctors a lot, and they're not happy. And like I said earlier, we have gotten screwed up by insurance quite a few times.
Obviously something needs to be done about it. Otherwise this wouldn't be the hot topic it is, like illegal immigration, etc.

[RandomGuy]

Actually, I won't ever be living off of social security. I work in healthcare myself and have exceptional healthcare insurance. Im doing okay.

Do you have income replacement insurance?