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Those picks rocket up in value if these guys stay in. Damn.
Chad Ford writes:
"That means that most of the top young international players -- including Serge Ibaka, Ante Tomic, Victor Claver and Giorgi Shermadini -- are leaning strongly toward staying in the draft despite not having first-round guarantees. In fact, in most cases, their agents don't want them going in the first round."
I've advocated that the Spurs try to grab Minnesota's 31 and 35. There is going to be tremendoes value at those picks. Previously I had hoped that the Splitter rights could land those picks, but that seems impossible now. Still it'd be nice to have those picks.
Those picks rocket up in value if these guys stay in. Damn.
Of those, only Walker is a concern to me. Ibaka might prefer to be drafted in round 2.After doing some research, the players we have to watch today who might pull out of the draft that could hurt the depth of the draft before the Spurs pick are Gallinari, Budinger, Lawson, Walker and Ibaka.
If at least four of those five players stay in, the Spurs should be in good shape.
Again, if we picked up one of Minnesota's early second rounders, we could give Walker a promise at, say, 31. But in that case, we'd still need to use the 26 on Courtney Lee, or some such. Pick up the extra pick to take a flier on Walker.
It's an absolute buyer's market on Walker right now. His stock is already low and the injury worsens things.
Actually, you could see the very late 20s picks and the very early 30s picks flip in value, with a team like Boston trading their 1st straight up for an early 2nd.
Why would a promise to Walker at 31 be of any value to him?
It wouldn't. I don't know why people think Walker would be happy being a 2nd round pick.
It wouldn't be of much value, unless he really just doesn't want to go back to school. I admit, it's a hard sell. But even removing Walker from the picture, having a shot at Ibaka right there, or even Batum, would be great too.
I lost my point in the Walker rant--the thing I wanted to press is that there is great value between 31 and 36.
I thought Claver and Tomic already withdrew.
Another possibility would be Portland at #33 and #36. We're friends with their GM, and they have a roster spot crunch already. Pick #26 for #33 and #36 might be a viable trade. Alternatively, we might trade the rights to Splitter - Portland doesn't want players who will be taking Roster spots immediately anyway...
I'd rather have Portland's 13th pick and the opportunity to take Joe Alexander.
True, but what are you going to give Portland for #13? #26, Rights to Splitter and big sloppy wet kiss? That's about all we have, and I don't think that they'd take it...I'd rather have Portland's 13th pick and the opportunity to take Joe Alexander.
I mentioned a similiar option in another trade, but I think we should go after their 1st round pick. Like you said, Portland is stacked right now so they would be open to a pick that wont come over for a couple years.
That #13 I'd expect is well out of our range. I could see Portland packaging it to move up and get a player they really want, or more likely put together some of their assets for a star or near star like Michael Redd.
i'm not sure that #33 and #36 will be better than # 26
with their trade exception the spurs could move to an early second round pick or with a best case scenario to a late first round pick like portland last year with phoenix for fernandez
imo the spurs will prefer one player than two , with the fa and the draft hey may add three or four new player in the roster so there isn't a lot of roster spots for rookies
It's was just a wild-ass pipe dream only.
It's tough for me to put my picks in order at 26 but right this second I'm thinking:
1. Rush
2. Chalmers
3. Budinger
4. Douglas-Roberts
5. Batum
6. Lee
7. Walker
I'd honestly be fine with any of those guys. That's a pretty nice range to pick from, especially since only Rush is a longshot to be there at 26.
At 45, it's starting to look like a quality big might drop. Hickson, Thompson, Hardin, Ajinca, Hendrix and White all seem to be worth the pick at 45.
DJ White, a forgotten man, would be great at 45.
i agree with those picks except chalmers over bundliger, batum or lee
chalmers looks good but it's not really what the spurs need imo
Could chalmers really play sg ???
That's basically my list too, but in a slightly different order. The only name I disagree with is Chalmers. I'd rather the Spurs not target a pg in the first round of this draft, but instead target a combo guard like Mike Taylor at 45 or a flier like Bonoko or Ponkrashov at 57. Brent Barry is a better option at back up point than anyone we'd draft. In addition to that, there remains a remote chance of grabbing a point like Sergio Rodriquez with the trade exception. Again, he's better than our draft options.
Beyond this, I fully expect the Spurs to draft a swing at 26, and if it's someone like Lee--who could step in to some role right now--there is going to be a real push for minutes at sg and sf. Rather than Barry or the rookie rot on the bench, I'd rather Barry play behind Parker and free some minutes elsewhere to develop the young guys.
Spurs might be able to move up if a team is looking to shed salary in fear of the lux tax. Being able to take back a contract(s) with the Beno trade exception and swap a lower 1st round pick guaranteed contract for a higher one might appeal to another team, especially if they think they can address their needs at #26 just as well as they could in the mid teens. Add some cash or perhaps a 2nd rounder and I can see it happening.
Not against everybody, but he could survive there for stretches.
He's actually pretty long for his height, which allowed him to guard guys who were even in the 6'4-6'5 range in college.
And obviously, offensively he played mostly off the ball the past 2 years.
Yes.
This is the first draft in a long time I've been especially excited about. Typically, I'm of the opinion that the draft is not of much use to the Spurs, so I don't follow it closely. The free agent market is always the more useful option. But there are so many possibilities to land players that could actually contribute this year, I'm starting to get high hopes. And going along with what you've said, it looks as if there are some opportunities for the Spurs to move around in this draft.
From DX:
According to Danilo Gallinari's official website:
"After some workouts and having carefully evalued any opportunity for his career, Danilo Gallinari decided to attend the 2008 NBA Draft. In this very moment Danilo and his father are in Los Angeles, waiting to be joined by the rest of the family."
Gallinari will work out for the Minnesota Timberwolves later this week, according to sources close to the situation.
-Rodrigue Beaubois- French point guard Rodrigue Beaubois will pull his name out of the draft, according to his agent Bill McCandless. Beaubois did not receive a promise in the first round, and thus preferred not to risk anything considering his excellent situation in Cholet next year. He canceled his workouts with Seattle and Cleveland. Fellow French early-entry prospect Luc Louves has withdrawn as well according to McCandless.
-Jonas Jerebko- Has withdrawn his name from the draft, according to his agent Doug Neustadt.
-C.J. Giles will keep his name in the draft, agent Bill Kent told DraftExpress.
- Chris Douglas-Roberts of Memphis will reportedly keep his name in the draft and hire agent Leon Rose.
-Ty Lawson will be returning to North Carolina, according to a source close to the situation.
-Ante Tomic is staying in the draft, according to his agent Marc Cornstein.
That might upset the Chalmers to SA scenario.-Ty Lawson will be returning to North Carolina, according to a source close to the situation.
Lawson going back is a surprise. This draft is awful with PGs. Why did Collison not stay in?!
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