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    Having no trade assets that they are willing to trade does not bode well for the front office moves in recent years.

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    In a different thread Timvp said that the Spurs have three trade exceptions but the other two were very minimal in salary amount. So minimal that they were pretty near worthless.

    My questions is, Can the three trade exceptions be combined in a single deal to increase the amount of the Beno trade exception by a half mill or whatever?

    No, trade exceptions cannot be combined in a single deal.

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    This kind of news comes out every year during draft time. Here's why:

    Pop: R.C., I need to see your latest draft report.
    R.C.: Uh, I'm still working on it.
    Pop: What the have you been doing all week? Reading the SpursTalk forums all day?
    R.C.: Uh, no, I've been, um, calling around trying to, um, get another first-rounder!
    Pop: Uh-huh. (folds arms)
    R.C.: No, seriously! I can show you on draftexpress!

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    That went to the Knicks in the Rose trade.
    then why we didn't have any draft pick in 2006 draft, the suns pick we gave to the knicks, so what happened to our first pick in 2006?

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    then why we didn't have any draft pick in 2006 draft, the suns pick we gave to the knicks, so what happened to our first pick in 2006?
    The Spurs included two 1st round picks in the Rose trade.

    The Suns' pick which the Spurs received and later dealt to the Knicks was in the '05 draft. The Spurs kept their own in the '05 draft and used it on Mahinmi.

    The Spurs also sent their own pick from the '06 draft.

    The draft picks acquired are San Antonio’s 2006 conditional first-round selection and Phoenix’s conditional 2005 first-round selection originally acquired by the Spurs on Jun. 26, 2003 (in exchange for the draft rights to Leandro Barbosa).
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    why dont we just trade our first round pick down for 2 2nd round picks, if there is nothing left on the table for us to pick, then again this draft isnt deep anyway, alot of unknown players and projects...to go with our 2 2nd rounder picks....

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    The Spurs could buy a first round pick but there doesn't seem to be many sellers this year. The only way I can see how to get an additional first round pick would be to trade Ian Mahinmi for a pick.

    How high would trading Mahinmi get the Spurs in the draft? Tough to say but I'd guess at least 18ish. If the Spurs secretly don't like him as a prospect or still think he's a couple years away, I wouldn't be against trading Mahinmi for a player in this draft the Spurs think can help right away.
    I disagree completely. Why would they trade Ian when they have a dire need for a big of his size, talent and athleticism? Duncan is already overworked as the last line of post defense on this team. They desparately need another big, who can run, defend the rim and actually grab rebounds, as opposed to taping them out to half-court. This is an especially glaring need now that Splitter isn't coming.

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    If Splitter was coming over next season then I think the Spurs would probably shop Mahinmi around in this draft, or at least would be more likely to.

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    Rermember there are no other "bigs" in the pipeline. Mahinmi is it. That's why this option makes no sense.

    It's a damn shame the Spurs don't have more to show for the Scola and Beno trades - at least a future number one or something.

    I find it interesting the former underlings (Presti and Pritchard) have seemingly a wealth of stockpiled picks, while RC 's draft cupboard is virtually bare. To add insult to injury, outside of Ian, he has nothing to show for six out of his last seven drafts.
    Last edited by SenorSpur; 06-19-2008 at 09:51 AM.

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    Rermember there are no other "bigs" in the pipeline. Mahinmi is it. That's why this option makes no sense.

    It's a damn shame the Spurs don't have more to show for the Scola and Beno trades - at least a future number one or something.
    Thanks to the Jackie Butler acquisition, Scola is gone for nothing from a basketball perspective.

    Thanks to Pop running down Beno, all the Spurs ended up with (so far) is a $1.9 mil trade exception.

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    How about Sanikidze, the 26 pick and one or both 2d round picks and/or a future pick or picks?

    Depends on how much (and how far) they want to move up.

    And they probably won't know that until the draft unfolds. So there may be secret "contingency deals" in place going in.

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    How about Sanikidze, the 26 pick and one or both 2d round picks and/or a future pick or picks?

    Depends on how much (and how far) they want to move up.

    And they probably won't know that until the draft unfolds. So there may be secret "contingency deals" in place going in.
    Javtokas would have more value than Sanikidze - he put up good numbers this year and has been mentioned in a couple of articles, so people are at least aware he exists.

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    why dont we just sign javtokas with the LLE....

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    why dont we just sign javtokas with the LLE....
    Currently the frontcourt rotation is rather crowded and bringing in Javtokas now would mean that Mahinmi would likely spend another season on IR. Now that could change with a trade...

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    why dont we just trade oberto

    and give the starting position to kthomas....

    seriously how bad can javtokas be compared to obertooo

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    The frontcourt rotation may be crowded with bodies, but is lacking in athleticism, scoring, rebounding and shotblocking. Duncan is truly a one-man wrecking crew, on both ends, with very little help.

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    Oberto is a nice player to have. I'd rather replace Bonner with Javtokas.

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    This kind of news comes out every year during draft time. Here's why:

    Pop: R.C., I need to see your latest draft report.
    R.C.: Uh, I'm still working on it.
    Pop: What the have you been doing all week? Reading the SpursTalk forums all day?
    R.C.: Uh, no, I've been, um, calling around trying to, um, get another first-rounder!
    Pop: Uh-huh. (folds arms)
    R.C.: No, seriously! I can show you on draftexpress!


    Probably pretty accurate!

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    why dont we just trade oberto

    and give the starting position to kthomas....

    seriously how bad can javtokas be compared to obertooo
    Oberto's biggest attribute is that he knows the system and plays fluidly with Timmy. Even Thomas, a very intelligent player, had trouble fitting into the offense. It would take Javtokas a while to find his way, if ever. Also, I don't know what the incentive is for him to even come over at this point, and especially after the last contract negotiations went south so badly.

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    I've only been saying this for two weeks...and getting either killed or ignored by ya'll for it.

    The best scenario for the Spurs is two picks between the high teens and the late 20s. But, honestly, I'd be happy if they had pick 26 and 29. That'll be good for Walker and Hendrix, or something along those lines, and we can add Azubuike in free agency and an LLE point like Dixon or trade for someone like Rodriguez. An outstanding off season, if that were the case.

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    Oberto is a nice player to have. I'd rather replace Bonner with Javtokas.
    If Horry's not coming back, we need to keep Bonner or find another frontcourt player to stretch the floor.

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    How about Sanikidze, the 26 pick and one or both 2d round picks and/or a future pick or picks?

    Depends on how much (and how far) they want to move up.

    And they probably won't know that until the draft unfolds. So there may be secret "contingency deals" in place going in.
    No one on earth, not even his momma, wants Sanikdze. He haunts this board on the basis of 15 minutes of good summer league play. If not for that, I'd doubt he ever existed.

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    I've heard the names of Javtokas and Sanikidze for several years now. It's as though these are mythical figures. What's the chances of either of them ever seeing the light of day in a Spurs uniform? Or would it be better to include them as trade assets to try and move up in the draft?

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    If Horry's not coming back, we need to keep Bonner or find another frontcourt player to stretch the floor.
    Eduardo Najera

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    If Horry's not coming back, we need to keep Bonner or find another frontcourt player to stretch the floor.
    Bonner? Don't you mean stretch the bench?

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