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    CIA Pop. Manu was good enough for 30-35 minutes/playoff game, but playing for Argentina after a good period of rest will threaten his career. If his injury was that bad, the Pop should have shut him down instead of doing his part to threaten his career.

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    CIA Pop. Manu was good enough for 30-35 minutes/playoff game, but playing for Argentina after a good period of rest will threaten his career. If his injury was that bad, the Pop should have shut him down instead of doing his part to threaten his career.
    According to Pop, Spurs own Manu body and soul coz they pay the bills...

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    Is there a difference in the Spurs not allowed to force Manu to sit out, and the Cavs being allowed to force Ilgauskas to sit out?
    Insurance. Ilgauskas doesn't have full insurance and it's written in his contract. He's more of an exception. Whereas, Manu has no such clause in his contract.

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    This is not a trade Manu comment, but...

    If he refuses to rest his ankle, does this sour his relationship with the Spurs any? If I were paying a guy 9 million a season and he was cutting into that investment by stubbornly depreciating himself...well, I would not be happy. Seriously, if he goes Grant Hill on us, I think Pop might go postal or hang himself, depending on his mood.

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    Manu will do whatever he feels like doing.

    He does not owe to the Spurs.

    He has already paid any "debt" he might have with them with two rings.

    That is more than many so-called superstars have given to the franchises they have played for.

    Some people are ing stupid to see this.

    (ducks, you are certainly one of them)

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    Manu will do whatever he feels like doing.

    He does not owe to the Spurs.

    He has already paid any "debt" he might have with them with two rings.

    That is more than many so-called superstars have given to the franchises they have played for.

    Some people are ing stupid to see this.

    (ducks, you are certainly one of them)
    olee olee olee oleeeeeee smeeegooool smeeegooool!

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    Manu will do whatever he feels like doing.

    He does not owe to the Spurs.

    He has already paid any "debt" he might have with them with two rings.

    That is more than many so-called superstars have given to the franchises they have played for.

    Some people are ing stupid to see this.

    (ducks, you are certainly one of them)



    Nothing more to add at this moment

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    He has already paid any "debt" he might have with them with two rings.
    Manu has 3 rings.

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    Manu has 3 rings.

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    Manu will do whatever he feels like doing.

    He does not owe to the Spurs.

    He has already paid any "debt" he might have with them with two rings.

    That is more than many so-called superstars have given to the franchises they have played for.

    Some people are ing stupid to see this.

    (ducks, you are certainly one of them)
    so are you saying manu could start tanking games and it would be ok since he already earned his contract

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    Manu will do whatever he feels like doing.

    He does not owe to the Spurs.

    He has already paid any "debt" he might have with them with two rings.

    That is more than many so-called superstars have given to the franchises they have played for.

    Some people are ing stupid to see this.

    (ducks, you are certainly one of them)
    the so called other superstars also did not have 2 other superstars playing with him


    boy do yuo ever watch basketball

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    Did u watch the US Open Golf?

    If any of the Big 3 was half the man Tiger Woods was, we are looking at championship 5..

    'Just be glad' is never in a champion's mind. If they are satisfied with what they have right now, might as well quit the game.
    Tiger Woods is a different animal altogether.
    I havent watched the US open.

    Was Tiger with the broken leg? arm?
    Could he run, swing, jump and push body to the limit?
    He won the tournament on a torn ACL, and double stress fracture on his left tibia...basically his "sore" knee was worse than he was letting on

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    Manu will do whatever he feels like doing.

    He does not owe to the Spurs.

    He has already paid any "debt" he might have with them with two rings.

    That is more than many so-called superstars have given to the franchises they have played for.

    Some people are ing stupid to see this.

    (ducks, you are certainly one of them)

    People aren't putting themselves in Manu's shoes.

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    Manu will do whatever he feels like doing.

    He does not owe to the Spurs.
    Right, and the Spurs who pay him roughly 7.5M a year owe him nothing either. Manu Ginobili's job, i.e. how he earns his income, is playing basketball for the San Antonio Spurs. To play basketball, he makes more than 98% of the planet. His less than stellar condition was instrumental in the Spurs not winning a championship this year and should he play this summer, that condition will likely worsen.

    Sounds to me like the employer has every right to be concerned and vigilant here. The minute Manu gets on the court in Beijing, Pop (or his brain fart of a partner, RC Buford) needs to make it a priority to move him while his stock is relatively high.

    It's business Smeagol.

    The Spurs need a 2 guard that can play NBA minutes without breaking down when the 's on the line. Gregg Popovich is probably the most conservative coach in the NBA when it comes to monitoring his stars' minutes. Manu, despite playing bench minutes is consistently nursing some type of wound and this time it cost us.

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    Right, and the Spurs who pay him roughly 7.5M a year owe him nothing either. Manu Ginobili's job, i.e. how he earns his income, is playing basketball for the San Antonio Spurs. To play basketball, he makes more than 98% of the planet. His less than stellar condition was instrumental in the Spurs not winning a championship this year and should he play this summer, that condition will likely worsen.

    Sounds to me like the employer has every right to be concerned and vigilant here. The minute Manu gets on the court in Beijing, Pop (or his brain fart of a partner, RC Buford) needs to make it a priority to move him while his stock is relatively high.

    It's business Smeagol.
    If Manu treated it like a business, he could have courted other teams for an even bigger salary. He's pretty much been under-paid for a while, for the sake of giving himself and the Spurs better championship chances.

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    If Manu treated it like a business, he could have courted other teams for an even bigger salary. He's pretty much been under-paid for a while, for the sake of giving himself and the Spurs better championship chances.
    Sure, and played with Carmelo Anthony in Denver right? That would have been a great career move. Tim Duncan is really the individual that significantly lowered his marketvalue to ensure the Spurs remained compe ive, not Manu Ginobili. Fact is that Manu is only slightly underpaid when we consider what a player of Duncan's prowess makes in relation to his comparables. I'm not talking about grand-fathered deals like Shaq's or Garnett's either. Duncan makes less money (on his own accord) than Jermaine O'Neal....

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    I say if he s around and plays -- trade him.

    We don't need belly itches.
    you're an idiot

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    Right, and the Spurs who pay him roughly 7.5M a year owe him nothing either. Manu Ginobili's job, i.e. how he earns his income, is playing basketball for the San Antonio Spurs. To play basketball, he makes more than 98% of the planet. His less than stellar condition was instrumental in the Spurs not winning a championship this year and should he play this summer, that condition will likely worsen.

    Sounds to me like the employer has every right to be concerned and vigilant here. The minute Manu gets on the court in Beijing, Pop (or his brain fart of a partner, RC Buford) needs to make it a priority to move him while his stock is relatively high.

    It's business Smeagol.

    The Spurs need a 2 guard that can play NBA minutes without breaking down when the 's on the line. Gregg Popovich is probably the most conservative coach in the NBA when it comes to monitoring his stars' minutes. Manu, despite playing bench minutes is consistently nursing some type of wound and this time it cost us.
    It is business?

    If the Spurs trade Manu for he used his RIGHT to play with Argentina, then the Spurs will lose my business of ever watching them again, buying any merchandise the put on the market or whatever, for I do not cheer for bags and certainly I do not pay money to them either.

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    If Manu treated it like a business, he could have courted other teams for an even bigger salary. He's pretty much been under-paid for a while, for the sake of giving himself and the Spurs better championship chances.

    yeah playing 2830 minutes a game
    where most players that get paid what he does play 35-40

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    It is business?

    If the Spurs trade Manu for he used his RIGHT to play with Argentina, then the Spurs will lose my business of ever watching them again, buying any merchandise the put on the market or whatever, for I do not cheer for bags and certainly I do not pay money to them either.
    like they could care less

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    the Olympics, and Argentina. If Manu values the Olympics over an NBA championship, then he's not the compe or some make him out to be.

    The NBA Championship is the REAL World Championship, and as he's on our payroll, the ONLY team he needs to worry about suiting up for the Spurs.

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    the Olympics, and Argentina. If Manu values the Olympics over an NBA championship, then he's not the compe or some make him out to be.

    The NBA Championship is the REAL World Championship, and as he's on our payroll, the ONLY team he needs to worry about suiting up for the Spurs.
    that's crazy, the Olympics is an event that last forever...it's been around longer than the NBA and it will still be here. it's a once in a lifetime chance to represent your country, defend your le...what more can you ask for? you don't hear soccer players and their clubs complaining when their national players are in their leagues in Europe, then they leave those teams for their countries slot.

    I'd say go for it Manu. Do what YOU want, not what THEY want.

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    Walton buys me off is 1000% right.

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    the Olympics, and Argentina. If Manu values the Olympics over an NBA championship, then he's not the compe or some make him out to be.

    The NBA Championship is the REAL World Championship, and as he's on our payroll, the ONLY team he needs to worry about suiting up for the Spurs.
    People are taking Manu's words out of context. He says the opportunity to win a gold, is more valuable, because Spurs with Tim Duncan can contend every year for one. You guys are acting like Manu didn't give a about the championship this year. He was really pissed off about not winning it, and hated seeing Boston and LA in the finals.

    Most people posting in this forum would wish to have the compe iveness Manu has.

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