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    With that in mind, on draft day we may be watching the draft and see Seattle draft a coveted player and we all collectively groan. Only to have Stern come to the podium and announce a pre-arranged trade and Seattle was drafting on our behalf.

    Good thought.

    I would not be surprised.

    With the trade exception the Spurs may be able to help Seattle pare some payroll. The Spurs could agree to take Adrian Griffin's contract using the Beno trade exception. That would save the Sonics roughly $1.6 mil.

    Here's another idea...

    http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade...radeid=4662756

    That would knock off about $250K per season for the Sonics. Throw in some amount of cash to make it worth their while and perhaps a future pick.

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    Could you then package the 24 and 26 for a lower pick then to get a CDR?

    Of course again, this is prefaced with WE are interested in him, but the Spurs MAY NOT be.

    Wich would be a shame.

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    Could you then package the 24 and 26 for a lower pick then to get a CDR?

    Of course again, this is prefaced with WE are interested in him, but the Spurs MAY NOT be.

    Wich would be a shame.
    Giving up the #24 and 26 for, say, the 21, wouldn't be a good deal.

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    Maybe one of those and a 2nd round pick would work.

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    This may be a major pipe dream or not but...

    Tony/House or Jarrett
    Manu/Barry/CDR
    Artest/Bowen/Udoka
    Tim/Ian
    Oberto/Thomas

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    With a Serge or Batum overseas for a season or two.
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    This may be a major pipe dream or not but...

    Tony/House or Dixon
    Manu/Barry/CDR
    Artest/Bowen/Viktor
    Tim/Ian
    Oberto/Thomas

    With a Serge or Batum overseas for a season or two.
    i would change House for Jarret Jack...

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    i would change House for Jarret Jack...
    I wouldn't mind Jarrett at all.

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    It sounds like CDR is dropping. I'm guessing mostly due to him not being a workout wonder and not being the best of interview. CDR is the most likely player to drop to the Spurs that fits their needs.

    Chad Ford says that a lot of teams have the tiers like this:

    Tier 5
    Alexis Ajinca
    Nicolas Batum
    Mario Chalmers
    Roy Hibbert
    J.J. Hickson
    Serge Ibaka
    Courtney Lee
    Robin Lopez
    JaVale McGee
    Marreese Speights
    Ante Tomic

    Tier 6
    Ryan Anderson
    Chris Douglas-Roberts
    Jamont Gordon
    Nathan Jawai
    Jason Thompson
    Bill Walker
    D.J. White

    Rush has moved up to the point that he's not even in the picture anymore at 26. Chalmers has moved up to the 15-22 range. Lee has moved up to the 18-22 range. Batum is a bit of a wild card but I can see him going as high as Portland at 13. I could also see a scenario in which Batum falls to the second round. He's hard to gauge right now.

    CDR could go at 22 but there's a pretty good shot he'll be there at 26 ... especially if Ford's tiers are correct. I'd be happy with that selection. I don't care if CDR isn't a great athlete or isn't a good interview or didn't score well on the Wonderlich or had a sketchy background check ... he can score and that's what the Spurs need.

    CDR at 26, Dorsey or Hendrix at 45 and Dragic at 57.


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    I bet CDR drops to the Spurs at #26....and the Spurs trade out of the first round to pick up a couple second rounders from T-Wolves or Blazers.

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    It sounds like CDR is dropping. I'm guessing mostly due to him not being a workout wonder and not being the best of interview. CDR is the most likely player to drop to the Spurs that fits their needs.

    Chad Ford says that a lot of teams have the tiers like this:

    Tier 5
    Alexis Ajinca
    Nicolas Batum
    Mario Chalmers
    Roy Hibbert
    J.J. Hickson
    Serge Ibaka
    Courtney Lee
    Robin Lopez
    JaVale McGee
    Marreese Speights
    Ante Tomic

    Tier 6
    Ryan Anderson
    Chris Douglas-Roberts
    Jamont Gordon
    Nathan Jawai
    Jason Thompson
    Bill Walker
    D.J. White

    Rush has moved up to the point that he's not even in the picture anymore at 26. Chalmers has moved up to the 15-22 range. Lee has moved up to the 18-22 range. Batum is a bit of a wild card but I can see him going as high as Portland at 13. I could also see a scenario in which Batum falls to the second round. He's hard to gauge right now.

    CDR could go at 22 but there's a pretty good shot he'll be there at 26 ... especially if Ford's tiers are correct. I'd be happy with that selection. I don't care if CDR isn't a great athlete or isn't a good interview or didn't score well on the Wonderlich or had a sketchy background check ... he can score and that's what the Spurs need.

    CDR at 26, Dorsey or Hendrix at 45 and Dragic at 57.

    All we have a shot at are the Tier 6 players probably... still not a bad selection... I like CDR.... too bad Chalmers, Rush, and Lee will now be out of reach unless the Spurs move up or somehow get an earlier pick like #22...

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    I'm liking him a lot too. At this point, I don't really care about his apparent flaws either. It sounds like CDR will, at the very least, help address the one area where the Spurs struggled most last season and in the playoffs - SCORING.
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    Bring him the F on.

    Please let this happen.

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    From what I've seen and heard, the Spurs need:

    1. A backup point
    2. A "long" three
    3. A center
    4. Scoring

    Wouldn't CDR do nicely for helping with #2 & 4 on the list? I saw him interviewed during the tournament on Jim Rome's show and he seemed like he had a good head on his shoulders. Plus, unless I'm mistaken, I seem to remember him helping out with ballhandling assignments, especially during presses. This would make him another Brent Barry.

    Bringing him in could free us to pursue Artest if we wanted.

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    We need to take CDR, and not make the mistake of letting a good talent pass us by. New Orleans is going to draft CDR if we dont. I wanted them to draft josh howard, but instead they let dallas get him.

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    mass enthusiasm for an undersized non athletic scorer

    meh

    ron mercer v 2.0

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    Find your scoring in free agency and your gritty gutty hustling role players in the draft.

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    We need to take CDR, and not make the mistake of letting a good talent pass us by. New Orleans is going to draft CDR if we dont. I wanted them to draft josh howard, but instead they let dallas get him.
    Yeah and hes singlehandidly wrecking the Mavericks.

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    Yeah and hes singlehandidly wrecking the Mavericks.
    OK. So Howard has made some dumb-ass, undisciplined mistakes this past season. Still cannot deny his on-court contributions over the past 5 seasons. He's someone who could've helped the Spurs and they should not have overlooked this. I hope they don't make the same mistake with CDR.

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    Yeah and hes singlehandidly wrecking the Mavericks.
    Nah, he got lots of help from Cuban.

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    OK. So Howard has made some dumb-ass, undisciplined mistakes this past season. Still cannot deny his on-court contributions over the past 5 seasons. He's someone who could've helped the Spurs and they should not have overlooked this. I hope they don't make the same mistake with CDR.

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    OK. So Howard has made some dumb-ass, undisciplined mistakes this past season. Still cannot deny his on-court contributions over the past 5 seasons. He's someone who could've helped the Spurs and they should not have overlooked this. I hope they don't make the same mistake with CDR.
    This past season?

    Try the past 3 seasons.

    Hes a good regular season player, but his playoff contributions are .

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    This past season?

    Try the past 3 seasons.

    Hes a good regular season player, but his playoff contributions are .
    Come to think of it, he's a first-half all-star, who doesn't show up in the 2nd half. The Mavs probably should've unloaded him earlier when his value was higher.

    Still the point being, the Spurs should've drafted him. If they didn't like him, at worse they would've had a tradeable asset. They have so few assets now as it is.

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    Come to think of it, he's a first-half all-star, who doesn't show up in the 2nd half. The Mavs probably should've unloaded him earlier when his value was higher.

    Still the point being, the Spurs should've drafted him. If they didn't like him, at worse they would've had a tradeable asset. They have so few assets now as it is.

    Shoulda woulda coulda.

    Does zero good to MR Body about stuff 5 years after it happened.

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    He says Derrick Rose has come close.

    http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/...html?post=true

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