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    has been polluting American youth for way too long.

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    when people stop making idiot references to hip hop influencing jazz, classical and rock when all those predate hip hop.

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    has been polluting American youth for way too long.
    You know its a problem when your 8 year old cousin is listening to the . I'm going to buy him a guitar for Christmas now. And an iPod. With every rock and roll album I own on it.

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    son watch out. the democrats here will be quick to call you a racist for even hinting at that.

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    You know its a problem when your 8 year old cousin is listening to the . I'm going to buy him a guitar for Christmas now. And an iPod. With every rock and roll album I own on it.
    That'll teach him.

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    hip hop is pop.

    they are indistinguishable now.

    You have rockers collaborating with rappers and even country music stars. It's here to stay.

    When mart says that Eminem is talented like Johnny Cash, that gives america no hope.

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    son watch out. the democrats here will be quick to call you a racist for even hinting at that.
    It's no longer racist for white people to say " ", because it's in so many damn hip hop songs that no one gives a anymore. Almost no thought or talent goes into creating hip hop. Actually that can be said for 80% of the recording industry right now, but even less creativity goes into hip hop than pop or rock or country or ing anything else. I could write a song while blacked out drunk, perform it "from memory" the next day and it would be better than anything a hip hop artist could produce.

    While I'm on the subject electronic/techno needs to gtfo out too. I'll go listen to loops of 1990s Sega game music if I wanted to hear that.

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    Thanks. Even if it means he's doing crack and heroin by the 9th grade, that's better than spending his youth looking up to hip hop artists.

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    It's no longer racist for white people to say " ", because it's in so many damn hip hop songs that no one gives a anymore. Almost no thought or talent goes into creating hip hop. Actually that can be said for 80% of the recording industry right now, but even less creativity goes into hip hop than pop or rock or country or ing anything else. I could write a song while blacked out drunk, perform it "from memory" the next day and it would be better than anything a hip hop artist could produce.

    While I'm on the subject electronic/techno needs to gtfo out too. I'll go listen to loops of 1990s Sega game music if I wanted to hear that.

    I agree son. to be a successful rapper it has NOTHING to do with musical talent. the beats are created for you and in most cases sampled (aka stolen) from other classic songs. the only "Talent" that is required to be a rapper is getting the right look and keeping your street cred.

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    Oh yeah ... I use to tell the kids in school (Jefferson Parish) that for every rap star out there, there's 10,000 young African-American (and white, and Mexican) males in jail or prison wondering why they didn't make it.

    Hating hip-hop music and "culture" doesn't make me racist. I hate it out of my concern for black Americans.

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    "I like Christian rock. It's very positive. It's not like those real musicians who think they're so cool and hip."

    "I'm against all "it's me"s. So self-absorbed and egotistical, it's
    like those hip musicians with their complicated shoes!"

    Sincerely,

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    Fifty years ago they were saying the same thing about rock-n-roll.

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    Hip hop will never die because lots of young guys in the hood can relate to the things these rappers say and really feel the music. Also, you won't ever see people dancing to rock or country in the club, people like the fast paced beats and aggressive lyrics. I agree hip hop is dying, but back in the day you had talented song makers like Tupac and even today there are some great lyracists who don't only rap about money, cars, and es.

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    Fifty years ago they were saying the same thing about rock-n-roll.
    Pretty sure rock n roll didn't glorify killing people.

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    Pretty sure rock n roll didn't glorify killing people.
    and son last time I checked, rock and roll required musical talent.

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    Pretty sure rock n roll didn't glorify killing people.
    true, but instead they wear black nail polish and dress like goblins

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    Pretty sure rock n roll didn't glorify killing people.
    Yeah, and the soothing sounds of Paul Whiteman never glorified sex and drugs. So that's what we should go back to.

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    sons I personally have nothing against hip hop and I think its fun to listen to. however, I don't consider it real music. then again, about 95% of the bull played on the radio now days isn't real music either. so you can't just pick on rap.

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    and son last time I checked, rock and roll required musical talent.
    Another direct adaptation of a quote from 50 years ago.

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    Hip hop will never die because lots of young guys in the hood can relate to the things these rappers say and really feel the music. Also, you won't ever see people dancing to rock or country in the club, people like the fast paced beats and aggressive lyrics. I agree hip hop is dying, but back in the day you had talented song makers like Tupac and even today there are some great lyracists who don't only rap about money, cars, and es.
    I actually agree that rap is on its deathbed. I'd take it a step further and say that rock is dead too. Has been since at least 1991, if not earlier.

    This isn't to say that all rap, and all rock, produced since then sucks. Some of it is quite good. But I would argue that rock ceased to be the cultural force that it once was at least 2 decades ago. And rap is fast heading there too. I speak not in terms of record sales (rappers do rather well there still), but in terms of having much more to say. What else is there for mainstream rap?

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    When are people going to recognize their radio comes equiped with a minimum of 2 buttons:

    1 changes the channel
    1 turns it off

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    When are people going to recognize their radio comes equiped with a minimum of 2 buttons:

    1 changes the channel
    1 turns it off
    Too bad it doesn't come with a button that prevents music recorded by people with no talent from coming thru the speakers.

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    Too bad it doesn't come with a button that prevents music recorded by people with no talent from coming thru the speakers.
    1 changes the channel
    1 turns it off
    Both of these buttons do just fine, J.T. If you don't like it you don't gotta listen to it. That's why I bought a car adapter for my zune and take it wherever I go.

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    Yeah, and the soothing sounds of Paul Whiteman never glorified sex and drugs. So that's what we should go back to.
    Better than random murder

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    When are people going to recognize their radio comes equiped with a minimum of 2 buttons:

    1 changes the channel
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    True. In a perfect, or halfway-decent world, that would be the case.

    But in my neighborhood, we have waaaay too many young males who either (a) haven't thought that their booming car audio systems disturb others, or (b) don't care either way. With these things (some of them are so loud I can hear them from 5-6 blocks away, while I am inside my well-insulated home, with the TV or radio on), I no longer get the choice to either change the channel or turn it off. The "drive-by" phenomenon is one aspect of hip-hop culture that I think its "practicioners" ought to look at.

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