Contract Negotiations Could Be Stopped if Manu Goes To Olympics

[spurscenter]

"Did I stutter?"

LOL

[Kermit]

I wish that they would go back to the amateur rule and actually enforce it.

[jack sommerset]

I will laugh so hard if Mangoo hurts himself more playing. You call it passion, I call it stupidity. If you truly believe the Spews would have won the championship with Mangoo healthy, this is freaken selfish of him and stupid playing in a month long tourny that could screw up the Spews season coming up.

He will hobble out in August to represent his country to a early exit of the Olympics then hobble on to the NBA to put the Spews in early hole.

[smeagol]

Manu will only play if he is 100% recuped from injury.

And yes, even with Manu, Argentina has 1% chance of beating the US.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

If Wade ever got a good first step, he didn't shoot a jumpshot. Youtube is filled with his theatrics around the basket. I don't know why gamewinners have anything to do with the topic at hand. Neither do fadeaway jumpers. The comment you made about contested jumpshots is the only quote I was making fun of because the guy makes them when he's not dunking the out of the ball (or when he's not injured).

Well maybe my comment was too literal. I've yet to see Wade change his game where he relied on a deadly jumpshot with range.

I was just pulling the "Wade can't shoot" card...
But you're right, Wade actually is more of a threat in the perimeter than Lebron currently is...but he doesn't really have any footage of him dropping daggers in people's faces on youtube.

[pawe]

USA wont be denied of the gold medal even if manu plays anyway.
If he thinks he's good to go then let him play, if ever he aggravates the injury (im praying it wont happen) at least they have time to get him ready for the playoffs. The spurs can develop other players while manu is resting.

[TDMVPDPOY]

givin manu that contract extention will hinder our rebuilding plans in 2010...so are we still following with the plan or not?

[amy020]

SELFISH DECISION
It's Manu's last chance to play the Olympics so he wanted to play not only for the gold medal.He has his right to play for his own country.And he know his injury may influence his performance . If it is that serious,he may choose to skip.But he should have the right to make the decision himself. It so bad to put the contract extention together with the Olympics.
GO MANU.whatever decision you make, I will always support you.

[wildbill2u]

If the Spurs aren't bound by some prior agreement to negotiate now, and Manu wants to play against the team's judgement that it is not in their interests, then both sides have points of view that negate free and open negotiations.

Time to step back and let things take their course. A month or two wait won't hurt Manu if he isn't injured and a wait will protect his team if he is. His choice.

[greens]

Extending Manu to 2012 could be pretty damn risky. However, if both sides can come to an agreement on a reasonable figure (maybe $16-18M), it probably makes sense for Ginobili to get that extra guarantee money and the Spurs so that they don't have to risk having to give Manu a huge contract at that point.

I don't think it's risky. If anything, this playoff run proves that the Spurs need Manu in order to win. He had that ankle problem, and they lost to the Lakers in 5 games.

Plus, this extension will keep the Big Three playing together at the same time.

I want Manu to sign the extension.

When can players start signing contract extensions? In July? What day?

And also, when does the Olympic training start? I keep hearing early July but not the actual date.

[porscha]

The Argentina team is going to 3 places:
Madrid, Spain
Nanjing, China and Beijing, China

Following schedule are quote from a manu's fan site.


This is the scheduled calendar for Argentina before the Olympics:

International Schedule:

19/7: Departure from Buenos Aires to Madrid, Spain

22/7 International Friendly Match in Madrid: Spain vs. Argentina

Ciudad de Orense Tournament: July 24-26th (Argentina, Lithuania and Spain)
24/7: Spain vs. Lithuania
25/7: Argentina vs. Lithuania
26/7: Spain vs. Argentina

27/7 Departure towards Nanjing, China

FIBA Diamond Ball (Nanjing, China): July 29th-August 1st.

29/7: Argentina vs. Iran y China vs. Angola
30/7: Iran vs. Serbia y Australia vs. China
31/7: Serbia vs. Argentina y Angola vs. Australia
1/8: A3 vs. B3, A2 vs. B2 y A1 vs. B1

Olympic Games:
August 6-7th: Arrival to the Olympic village.
August 8th: Openning Ceremony and parade.
August 10th and beyond: Games.

[greens]

Thanks for the info!

So July 19th is when the training starts.

When is the last day to sign a contract extension? In July?

[Marcus Bryant]

So Pop and TD are signed through the 2011-12 season. Extending Manu two years would also put him under contract through then.

Parker's contract ends after the 2010-11 season. One would have to think he will think long and hard about agreeing to any extension himself. I believe Parker's contract could be extended starting this November 2nd. Parker could receive an extension of up to five years beyond his current deal for a maximum of $90 million.

An extension for Parker, of course, would mean locking in guaranteed money through age 34. It would also mean agreeing to play for a Spurs team that will likely look a lot different after the 2011-12 season. The current CBA is set to expire by the end of the 2011-12 season, at the latest. Who knows what changes will be in store?

For the Spurs, I'm not sure you would want to have Duncan and Ginobili leave and not have an established star to build the team around. Extending Parker now would at least give you some certainty moving forward. In addition, an extension now could keep Parker's cost down through the end of his career.

If Parker hit free agency in 2011, at age 29 and with 10 years of NBA service, he could be eligible for up to a 6 year, $170 million contract that would end at age 35. It's highly unlikely he would receive that maximum, but he could end up with a much better payoff waiting until free agency in 2011 instead of signing a $90 million extension now through age 34. Of course, the CBA could expire at the end of the 2010-11 season. Also, he'd have a much better view of what remaining a Spur until 2015 or 2016 would look like in 2011 instead of in 2008.

To be continued...

[T Park]

Quite interesting.

Smart move by the Spurs.

[Bruno]

Manu's extension could be up to 3 years. I find it interesting that Spurs want to sign him to a 2 years extension.

If you offer Manu a 3 years extension, his salary per year will be lower. It means that Spurs will have more money available to get free agents with the 2010 plan.

I think Pop wants to let Spurs ready to rebuild in 2012 and having a 35 years old Ginobili under contract doesn't fit with that description. I think Pop will have in mind a "2012 master plan". Even if you want to be a contender for the end of the Duncan era, Pop won't do moves that hurt the post Duncan era.

[Bruno]

Following schedule are quote from a manu's fan site.

Argentina has a really light schedule. 6 friendly games and a preparation that last 3 weeks.
Even if Manu plays the Olympics, he shouldn't be too tired for the 2008/2009 season.

[ducks]

The Olympics are a huge deal to international players. Pressuring them not to play is selfish, imo.

and?

[Spurs Brazil]

I think sign Manu to a 2 year extension is a very good move

[leo_d]

in 2002 Manu plays the World Championship. Argentina finish second and the Spurs wins the NBA in 2002-2003.

in 2004 Manu plays the Olimpics. Argentina finish first and the Spurs wins the NBA in 2004-2005.

in 2006 Manu again plays the World Championship. Argentina finish fourth and the Spurs wins the NBA in 2006-2007.

I think if the FO conditions the future contract to Manu not playing in the Olimpics something will be broken in the relationship between Manu and the Spurs.

Let the boy play, he is not the compe or the Spurs need if he wouldn`t want to play for his country.

Just insurance his legs.

[greens]

Well, this season has been the best one for Manu. He has career highs in points/assists/steals/etc. Not to mention, his best stretch of games when he got 44 pts, 30 pts, 40 pts. And he has even got some MVP votes this year!

As Tony said, Manu has been the Spurs MVP of the regular season this year. And their clutch player.

I think that's why the Spurs want to sign him right now.

[Ghazi]

I'm Iranian, go Iran!!

[spurschick]

22/7 International Friendly Match in Madrid: Spain vs. Argentina

Since when is a basketball game between Spain and Argentina "friendly"?

[Marcus Bryant]

Manu's extension could be up to 3 years. I find it interesting that Spurs want to sign him to a 2 years extension.

If you offer Manu a 3 years extension, his salary per year will be lower. It means that Spurs will have more money available to get free agents with the 2010 plan.

I think Pop wants to let Spurs ready to rebuild in 2012 and having a 35 years old Ginobili under contract doesn't fit with that description. I think Pop will have in mind a "2012 master plan". Even if you want to be a contender for the end of the Duncan era, Pop won't do moves that hurt the post Duncan era.

So what does that mean for Parker? It would seem to be in the Spurs' interest to extend his contract when they have the opportunity rather than allow him to become a free agent in 2011 when it's clear that Pop, Duncan, and Ginobili are in their last season. Not to mention that an extension would likely be less expensive for the Spurs than the type of contract Parker could garner in 2011.

[ducks]

SELFISH DECISION
It's Manu's last chance to play the Olympics so he wanted to play not only for the gold medal.He has his right to play for his own country.And he know his injury may influence his performance . If it is that serious,he may choose to skip.But he should have the right to make the decision himself. It so bad to put the contract extention together with the Olympics.
GO MANU.whatever decision you make, I will always support you.

is it his right to ride a bike and get injured?
is it his right to skydive?
his right to go cliff hanging?

[ducks]

Manu will only play if he is 100% recuped from injury.

And yes, even with Manu, Argentina has 1% chance of beating the US.

yeah manu never plays less then 100%