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    So if you trade Mahinmi and with Splitter not coming, what do you do for a backup big? That's robbing Peter to pay Paul. You're simply opening up yet another hole.
    I don't advocate trading Mahinmi at all, I'm just looking at things in case the Spurs don't care for him.

    I wouldn't be shocked if the Spurs just re-sign Kurt Thomas and once again go with the old guys under the plan of "If only we were healthy against LA and if only Kurt Thomas had a full training camp". That's a line of thinking I could easily see the Spurs buying into.

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    I don't advocate trading Mahinmi at all, I'm just looking at things in case the Spurs don't care for him.

    I wouldn't be shocked if the Spurs just re-sign Kurt Thomas and once again go with the old guys under the plan of "If only we were healthy against LA and if only Kurt Thomas had a full training camp". That's a line of thinking I could easily see the Spurs buying into.
    ..and a line of flawed thinking I don't buy into. Consider the big men in the Western Conference. Oden, Stoudamire, Bynum, Gasol, Shaq, Chandler. Duncan can't keep having to matchup against these guys alone. As of now, Duncan is having to rebound, defend the paint, block shots and score without much help from the bigs on this team. He needs another big to help take some of the load off of him.

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    I don't think Ian's stock is high enough to get us anything great in the first round. If we move up to the mid to late teens of the 1st round, who are we going to get? A wing with just as many manybes. I'd rather keep Ian, try to sign a quality wing with the MLE and scrap the 2010 plan. Our window of winning a le could easily be closed by then. We won't be terrible, but I think the wear on Tim and Manu, plus the realistic retirement of Bowen makes 2010 seem too late to me to begin rebuilding.

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    would you guys be disappointed if the spurs draft someone out of the rader that we havnt talked about yet? maybe someone in the jungles of africa or another nail in the haystack of euro...

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    would you guys be disappointed if the spurs draft someone out of the rader that we havnt talked about yet? maybe someone in the jungles of africa or another nail in the haystack of euro...
    Yes. This will mean a player far away from contributing.

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    Yes. This will mean a player far away from contributing.
    Exactly. If there was ever a time the Spurs needed to have an infusion of young player who can contribute immediately - its' now.

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    Here is a list of first rookie salary scale with a exception worth approximately $1.847M, that could equal the 9th pick salary. I don't see any of the teams between 9-12 trading for that exception, maybe Portland at 13 since they have 3 second round picks. It would probably cost the exception, and either both secornd round picks or our 1st round pick or all 3 draft picks to get the 13th pick. Portland's already a pretty young team so more draft picks wouldn't help.

    1 $4,019,000
    2 $3,595,800
    3 $3,229,200
    4 $2,911,400
    5 $2,636,400
    6 $2,394,600
    7 $2,186,000
    8 $2,002,600
    9 $1,840,800
    10 $1,748,800
    11 $1,661,300
    12 $1,578,200
    13 $1,499,300
    14 $1,424,400
    15 $1,353,100
    16 $1,285,500
    17 $1,221,200
    18 $1,160,200
    19 $1,107,900
    20 $1,063,600
    21 $1,021,000
    22 $980,200
    23 $941,100
    24 $903,400
    25 $867,200
    26 $838,500
    27 $814,300
    28 $809,300
    29 $803,400
    30 $797,600

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    I'd love to see them get another first round draft pick but we have little to deal with. I doubt it would happen but it would be very good but honestly I just dont see it happening. If it does happen I wonder how long it would be before both the guys are actually playing on the team.

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    I wish the draft would get here already so we'd have some idea of what the Spurs might do this summer.

    All the rumors will drive me crazy till then.

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    there might be one scenario to get the #24 pick from the Sonics not mentioned yet.
    Spurs use the Beno TE plus a future pick (or the Splitter rights?) to acquire Griffin plus the #24 pick.
    why this is probably more attractive for the Sonics than it seems on first sight?
    Griffin is dead meat, he only takes away a roster spot. Sonics otherwise likely would waive him this summer. dumping him for a TE not only saves this kind of money (1.7 million), it increases the cap room for the Sonics from about 10 million to almost 12 million. we don't know what the plans of Presti are, but if he plans to raise the speed of the rebuilding process, he might want to become a bigger player in this years free agency.
    the difference of having 10 million or 12, is the difference of being able to offer an about 60 million deal or a 70 million deal to a FA.
    for example, they could make a run at Okafor, who turned down 60 million from the Bobcats last summer.
    (can anyone see Okafor and his defense as a perfect fit alongside Durant's scoring? I can)
    or participate in the Calderon sweepstake. (and not use the #4 pick on Bayless and instead pick Lopez or Love).
    just a few options of several.

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    The Spurs could buy a first round pick but there doesn't seem to be many sellers this year. The only way I can see how to get an additional first round pick would be to trade Ian Mahinmi for a pick.

    How high would trading Mahinmi get the Spurs in the draft? Tough to say but I'd guess at least 18ish. If the Spurs secretly don't like him as a prospect or still think he's a couple years away, I wouldn't be against trading Mahinmi for a player in this draft the Spurs think can help right away.
    we better get dwight howard or something more than an 18th pick if we are trading our future away.

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    would you guys be disappointed if the spurs draft someone out of the rader that we havnt talked about yet? maybe someone in the jungles of africa or another nail in the haystack of euro...
    I would be as Sam Pesti is no longer with the team and RC doesn't have so much time to explore new players. Their scouts are not that good nowadays too.

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    the Splitter rights have any value?
    ZERO... teams know hes over there for 4 years, no would want him until he redeclares that hes coming over in 2010 or 2012.

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    Maybe SPURS best strategy is to trade down with Portland/Timberwolve/Sonics while every teams want to trade up but SPURS have nothing to offer, especially when those sure 1st round picks (C. Lee, Rush, Ibaka, Chamlers) will be gone.

    Then SPURS will have 4 2nd rd picks in which they can draft any combinations of

    SF/SG: Bill Walker, Ryan Anderson, K Weaver, JR Ghidden, Pat Catalhes
    PS: Mike Taylor
    PF/C: DJ White, J Dorsey, Jason Thompson, Omer Asik, N Pekovic

    These are all high risk, high rewards picks. But if only 2 out of 4 become part of the SPURS backup, it is still a remarkable draft.

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    Maybe SPURS best strategy is to trade down with Portland/Timberwolve/Sonics while every teams want to trade up but SPURS have nothing to offer, especially when those sure 1st round picks (C. Lee, Rush, Ibaka, Chamlers) will be gone.

    Then SPURS will have 4 2nd rd picks in which they can draft any combinations of

    SF/SG: Bill Walker, Ryan Anderson, K Weaver, JR Ghidden, Pat Catalhes
    PS: Mike Taylor
    PF/C: DJ White, J Dorsey, Jason Thompson, Omer Asik, N Pekovic

    These are all high risk, high rewards picks. But if only 2 out of 4 become part of the SPURS backup, it is still a remarkable draft.

    If Batum is on the board, they should and will likely stay there. I don't see any redeeming value for them trading down. They need to select the best player on their board @ #26. Trading down does nothing.

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    Maybe SPURS best strategy is to trade down with Portland/Timberwolve/Sonics while every teams want to trade up but SPURS have nothing to offer, especially when those sure 1st round picks (C. Lee, Rush, Ibaka, Chamlers) will be gone.

    Then SPURS will have 4 2nd rd picks in which they can draft any combinations of

    SF/SG: Bill Walker, Ryan Anderson, K Weaver, JR Ghidden, Pat Catalhes
    PS: Mike Taylor
    PF/C: DJ White, J Dorsey, Jason Thompson, Omer Asik, N Pekovic

    These are all high risk, high rewards picks. But if only 2 out of 4 become part of the SPURS backup, it is still a remarkable draft.
    I know mock drafts are fraught with homerism and blind faith, but still, most of them call for at least one of the guys being mentioned as appealing to the Spurs as likely to still be around, be it Chalmers, CDR, C Lee, or a big like Ajinca... if anything, why not use the trade exception to move up a few spots and increase the odds a bit. I read something yesterday that there is suddenly a concern from some teams that Batum might have an genetic heart problem... I don't know the details-- apparently his father and grandfather both died young from it-- but something like that could easily change his draft position 5 spots. Bill Walker of Kansas is another unusual case-- he just injured his knee and cannot workout for teams anymore, but has decided to stay in the draft. All kinds of crazy things could happen in the next 4 days...

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    Batum won't be around at 26. If he is, it means he has heart problem and SPURS won't take the risk. If SPURS interested players are gone, I believe they will trade down to get more options/flexbility. There are still a lot of "best players" available, esp in PF/C area.

    T Wolves and Blazers are high 2nd rd pick which won't be much different from 27 - 30 picks (honestly I don't think SPURS will draft CDR, D Hardin and JJ Hickson) andd GM will not risk 1st rd pick on Bill Walker

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    I wish the draft would get here already so we'd have some idea of what the Spurs might do this summer.

    All the rumors will drive me crazy till then.
    No kidding.

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