Obama Plays Race Card

[ChumpDumper]

if barack gets in i guarantee another attack on us within a year. i'm not praying for it, but i feel that will happen.

obamessiah wants talks

Iran is going to attack us?

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Purely economic, but economics filters down to everything. I know you have the time, enjoy.



Oh, this has nothing to do with 9/11 or any other like that. It's just about money, taxes, etc. But, in the end, it touches everything.

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So, Obama warning a potential fund-raiser that the republicans are gonna play the race card equals Obama himself playing the race card? Interesting.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Iran is going to attack us?

not them. they'll attack israel before they attack us. which ahmadinejad has said. just like when hitler said he was going to do before he did it.

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not them. they'll attack israel before they attack us. which ahmadinejad has said. just like when hitler said he was going to do before he did it.

So we won't be attacked.

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So, Obama warning a potential fund-raiser that the republicans are gonna play the race card equals Obama himself playing the race card? Interesting.

what else do you call it? "nah nah na-nee na-nee boo boo i beat you to it"? will that make you feel better?

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what else do you call it?

a fair warning

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So we won't be attacked.

i'm not getting in to your pointless inquisitions. read and comprehend.
i'm saying we'll be attacked. not saying who in particular, but iran isn't that stupid to be one of the stupid ones. you can mentally masturbate whatever you want from that. i don't know what other shade of black and white i can show you to have you read and comprehend my statement for the second time.

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a fair warning

so why bring it up in the first place when only the other democratic candidate, hilary, brought up the race issue. show me where republicans or any other party other then the "do-what-you-want, say-what-you-want, it's ok" democrats play the race card..........or even hint that it will be played.

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Well, Republicans counted on Americans' thinking Saddam was behind 9/11, so this isn't too far fetched. Fear and ignorance are tools for politicians of any party.

You know Chump, I give you credit for being much smarter than most here, although a total ass. If you believe that, I have to reduce my assessment of your intelligence.

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i'm not getting in to your pointless inquisitions. read and comprehend.
i'm saying we'll be attacked. not saying who in particular, but iran isn't that stupid to be one of the stupid ones. you can mentally masturbate whatever you want from that. i don't know what other shade of black and white i can show you to have you read and comprehend my statement for the second time.

Who will attack us?

You already said it wouldn't be Iran --and that is the government which is brought up when discussing Obama's call for talks.

So from whom are you guaranteeing an attack?

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You know Chump, I give you credit for being much smarter than most here, although a total ass. If you believe that, I have to reduce my assessment of your intelligence.

I wholeheartedly believe fear and ignorance of the general population are tools of politicians.

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Who will attack us?

You already said it wouldn't be Iran --and that is the government which is brought up when discussing Obama's call for talks.

So from whom are you guaranteeing an attack?

masturbate away, parents' basement dweller.

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so why bring it up in the first place when only the other democratic candidate, hilary, brought up the race issue. show me where republicans or any other party other then the "do-what-you-want, say-what-you-want, it's ok" democrats play the race card..........or even hint that it will be played.

this is the general election campaign now; this is the time when the republicans will begin their direct and indirect attacks against Obama in earnest. some of those attacks might be racial, and Obama is letting his fundraisers know that they should keep an eye open for that.

nevermind. you're daft.

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masturbate away, parents' basement dweller.

Look, you're the one guaranteeing an attack if Obama becomes president.

From whom?

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I wholeheartedly believe fear and ignorance are tools of politicians.

I believe that too, especially the demonrats to get votes from the lib s. The republicans do it some also, but not as much. That wasn't the point. Saddam was never cited as the reason for 9/11. The US security changed due to 9/11 and it was time to take him out. He had repeatedly violated agreements and UN resoltions. He was friends by proxy with terrorists and had the resources to become a supplier of WMD even if the never did. His actions lead the entire world to believe he still had significant WMD. We all know that, any on paying attention. It is believed he defied the inspectors because he still wanted other Arab nations to believe he could cause them serious harm if needed. It looks like he had nothing to hid, so why did he?

Saddam played the wrong game with the wrong president and lost. If he had only come clean.

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Saddam was never cited as the reason for 9/11.

He was repeatedly linked to Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda by the Bush administration. , Yonivore is still trying to link them to this day even after Bush admitted the link doesn't exist.

Saddam played the wrong game with the wrong president and lost. If he had only come clean.

It's a fair bet we would have invaded anyway. Once the forces were in place and the promises to various groups were made, the whole operation took on a momentum of its own.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

this is the general election campaign now; this is the time when the republicans will begin their direct and indirect attacks against Obama in earnest. some of those attacks might be racial, and Obama is letting his fundraisers know that they should keep an eye open for that.

nevermind. you're daft.

i guess you're a programmed obamicon. daft, indeed. and no i don't endorse mccain.

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He was repeatedly linked to Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda by the Bush administration. , Yonivore is still trying to link them to this day even after Bush admitted the link doesn't exist.It's a fair bet we would have invaded anyway. Once the forces were in place and the promises to various groups were made, the whole operation took on a momentum of its own.

Being linked to known terrorists and being behind 9/11 are very different. Being linked is why we demanded he come clean on his inventories. When he didn't, we had to assume the worse from known intelligence.

My reponce was to your statement that republicans believe Saddam was behind 9/11. I'm sure there are some. But is wasn't because republican politicians said or implied he was. As dishonest as they are at times, I never heard anything that came close. If some did, it's pretty isolated. Far from common.

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My reponce was to your statement that republicans believe Saddam was behind 9/11. I'm sure there are some.

On this very board.

But is wasn't because republican politicians said or implied he was.

That is exactly why the ones on this board believe that.

As dishonest as they are at times, I never heard anything that came close. If some did, it's pretty isolated. Far from common.

They played up the linkage for two years and did nothing to separate the two until well after the invasion of Iraq. It was very common.

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He was repeatedly linked to Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda by the Bush administration. , Yonivore is still trying to link them to this day even after Bush admitted the link doesn't exist.It's a fair bet we would have invaded anyway. Once the forces were in place and the promises to various groups were made, the whole operation took on a momentum of its own.

Here ya go sport.

http://www.knwe.org/Kurdistani%20Nwe/18-6-2008/Kurdistani%20Nwe.htm

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Go ahead and tell me what you are on about.

"Saddam was a bad guy" perhaps?

No . That's not the issue here, "sport."

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Evangelist accuses Obama of 'distorting' Bible
From Alexander Mooney

(CNN) -- A top U.S. evangelical leader is accusing Sen. Barack Obama of deliberately distorting the Bible and taking a "fruitcake interpretation" of the U.S. Cons ution.

In comments to be aired on his radio show Tuesday, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson criticizes the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee for comments he made in a June 2006 speech to the liberal Christian group Call to Renewal.

In the speech, Obama suggested that it would be impractical to govern based solely on the word of the Bible, noting that some passages suggest slavery is permissible and eating s fish is disgraceful.

"Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy?" Obama asked in the speech. "Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating s fish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount?

"So before we get carried away, let's read our Bible now," Obama said, to cheers. "Folks haven't been reading their Bible."

He also called Jesus' Sermon on the Mount "a passage that is so radical that it's doubtful that our Defense Department would survive its application."

In the comments to be aired Tuesday, Dobson said Obama should not be referencing antiquated dietary codes and passages from the Old Testament that are no longer relevant to the teachings of the New Testament.

"I think he's deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own world view, his own confused theology," Dobson said, adding that Obama is "dragging biblical understanding through the gutter."

Responding to the comments, Joshua DuBois, Obama's national director of religious affairs, said the Illinois senator is "committed to reaching out to people of faith and standing up for American families."

"A full reading of his 2006 Call to Renewal speech shows just that," DuBois said. "Obama is proud to have the support of millions of Americans of faith and looks forward to working across religious lines to bring our country together."

The comments come shortly after DuBois called Focus on the Family to suggest a meeting with the group ahead of the Democratic Party's convention in late August, according to Tom Minnery, the organization's senior vice president for government and public policy.

Minnery wouldn't say whether any such meeting is planned but said the group is open to it.

Dobson also takes aim at Obama for suggesting in the speech that those motivated by religion should attempt to appeal to broader segments of the population by not just framing their arguments around religious precepts.

"Democracy demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns into universal rather than religion-specific values," Obama said. "It requires their proposals be subject to argument and amenable to reason."

Dobson said the suggestion is an attempt to lead by the "lowest common denominator of morality."

"Am I required in a democracy to conform my efforts in the political arena to his bloody notion of what is right with regard to the lives of tiny babies?" he asked. "What he's trying to say here is, unless everybody agrees, we have no right to fight for what we believe.

"What the senator is saying there, in essence, is that 'I can't seek to pass legislation, for example, that bans partial-birth abortion, because there are people in the culture who don't see that as a moral issue,' " Dobson said. "And if I can't get everyone to agree with me, than it is undemocratic to try to pass legislation that I find offensive to the Scripture. Now, that is a fruitcake interpretation of the Cons ution."

According to Minnery, Dobson was particularly offended by a portion of the speech in which Obama mentioned evangelical leader and the Rev. Al Sharpton.

In the speech, Obama said, "Even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools? Would we go with James Dobson's or Al Sharpton's?"

In response, Minnery said, "Many people have called [Sharpton] a black racist, and [Obama] is somehow equating [Dobson] with that and racial bigotry."

Dobson's comments follow the Obama campaign's recent efforts to increase its appeal among evangelicals, many of whom have expressed reservations about supporting Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee.

Dobson himself has said he will not vote for the Arizona senator.

Minnery said he doesn't expect Obama to make inroads into the reliably Republican voting bloc.

"Evangelicals are people who take Bible interpretation very seriously, and the sort of speech he gave shows that he is worlds away in the views of evangelicals," he said.

Minnery also said Dobson will probably continue his criticism of Obama.

"Given our fact that religion seems to be such a relevant topic in this election again, we will defend the evangelical view vigorously," he said.

LINK

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Evangelist accuses Obama of 'distorting' Bible
From Alexander Mooney

(CNN) -- A top U.S. evangelical leader is accusing Sen. Barack Obama of deliberately distorting the Bible and taking a "fruitcake interpretation" of the U.S. Cons ution.

In comments to be aired on his radio show Tuesday, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson criticizes the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee for comments he made in a June 2006 speech to the liberal Christian group Call to Renewal.

In the speech, Obama suggested that it would be impractical to govern based solely on the word of the Bible, noting that some passages suggest slavery is permissible and eating s fish is disgraceful.

"Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy?" Obama asked in the speech. "Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating s fish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount?

"So before we get carried away, let's read our Bible now," Obama said, to cheers. "Folks haven't been reading their Bible."

He also called Jesus' Sermon on the Mount "a passage that is so radical that it's doubtful that our Defense Department would survive its application."

In the comments to be aired Tuesday, Dobson said Obama should not be referencing antiquated dietary codes and passages from the Old Testament that are no longer relevant to the teachings of the New Testament.

"I think he's deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own world view, his own confused theology," Dobson said, adding that Obama is "dragging biblical understanding through the gutter."

Responding to the comments, Joshua DuBois, Obama's national director of religious affairs, said the Illinois senator is "committed to reaching out to people of faith and standing up for American families."

"A full reading of his 2006 Call to Renewal speech shows just that," DuBois said. "Obama is proud to have the support of millions of Americans of faith and looks forward to working across religious lines to bring our country together."

The comments come shortly after DuBois called Focus on the Family to suggest a meeting with the group ahead of the Democratic Party's convention in late August, according to Tom Minnery, the organization's senior vice president for government and public policy.

Minnery wouldn't say whether any such meeting is planned but said the group is open to it.

Dobson also takes aim at Obama for suggesting in the speech that those motivated by religion should attempt to appeal to broader segments of the population by not just framing their arguments around religious precepts.

"Democracy demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns into universal rather than religion-specific values," Obama said. "It requires their proposals be subject to argument and amenable to reason."

Dobson said the suggestion is an attempt to lead by the "lowest common denominator of morality."

"Am I required in a democracy to conform my efforts in the political arena to his bloody notion of what is right with regard to the lives of tiny babies?" he asked. "What he's trying to say here is, unless everybody agrees, we have no right to fight for what we believe.

"What the senator is saying there, in essence, is that 'I can't seek to pass legislation, for example, that bans partial-birth abortion, because there are people in the culture who don't see that as a moral issue,' " Dobson said. "And if I can't get everyone to agree with me, than it is undemocratic to try to pass legislation that I find offensive to the Scripture. Now, that is a fruitcake interpretation of the Cons ution."

According to Minnery, Dobson was particularly offended by a portion of the speech in which Obama mentioned evangelical leader and the Rev. Al Sharpton.

In the speech, Obama said, "Even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools? Would we go with James Dobson's or Al Sharpton's?"

In response, Minnery said, "Many people have called [Sharpton] a black racist, and [Obama] is somehow equating [Dobson] with that and racial bigotry."

Dobson's comments follow the Obama campaign's recent efforts to increase its appeal among evangelicals, many of whom have expressed reservations about supporting Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee.

Dobson himself has said he will not vote for the Arizona senator.

Minnery said he doesn't expect Obama to make inroads into the reliably Republican voting bloc.

"Evangelicals are people who take Bible interpretation very seriously, and the sort of speech he gave shows that he is worlds away in the views of evangelicals," he said.

Minnery also said Dobson will probably continue his criticism of Obama.

"Given our fact that religion seems to be such a relevant topic in this election again, we will defend the evangelical view vigorously," he said.

LINK

He is a Doctor of Philosophy not a minister. So where do they get the evangelical leader stuff.

His own biography.

James C. Dobson, Ph.D., is founder and chairman of Focus on the Family, a non-profit organization that produces his internationally syndicated radio programs, heard on over 3,000 radio facilities in North America and in twenty seven languages in approximately 4,130 additional facilities in over 160 other countries.

His commentaries are heard by more than 220 million people by way of radio every day, including a translation of a program carried on state-owned radio stations in the Republic of China. He is seen on approximately 60 television stations daily in the U.S.

Dobson was for 14 years an Associate Clinical Professor of Pediatrics at the University of Southern California School of Medicine, and served for 17 years on the Attending Staff of Children's Hospital of Los Angeles in the Division of Child Development and Medical Genetics. He has an earned Ph.D. from the University of Southern California (1967) in the field of child development. He is a licensed psychologist in the state of California and a licensed marriage, family and child counselor in both California and Colorado. He is listed in Who's Who in Medicine and Healthcare.

Just thought you would like to know.

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Xray showing off his reading comprehension skills again. Nowhere in the article does it ever say that Dobson is a minister. Evangelical Leader does not equal minister.