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    Polling is done at random by these pollsters. It isn't like they went out and got "x" amount of Democrats, and "x" amount of Republicans on purpose.
    There were about 384 democrats, 293 republicans, and 307 indies polled.

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    There were about 384 democrats, 293 republicans, and 307 indies polled.
    Which would make their random sample representative of party identification of Americans as a whole.


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    I wouldn't be surprised to see McCain winning at all. I always tought the Dems have been nominating the worst candidates out there, since Kerry.
    As much as Dems think voter turnout is going to be big with a color candidate, Reps always have better turnout in general, and you'll see extra motivation considering that whether you like it or not, racial bias are going to be a factor.
    That said, IMO, what's going to make or break McCain's election is how much he can differentiate himself from dubya.
    I would like to think the voter turnout will be better, but not to elect Obama. My fear is that the democrats will gain a super majority in the house and senate.

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    boutons, will you stop posting for a year if mccain wins?
    You did it.

    Congratulations.

    You gave me a reason to vote for McCain.

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    There were about 384 democrats, 293 republicans, and 307 indies polled.
    Yes, and it was at random, not on purpose. There are more Democrats than Republicans in America, and more Independents than Republicans, too.

    The poll isn't really flawed like you want it to be.

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    HUSSEIN! has a new logo, presumptive, but WTF


    Had a new logo;

    Obama campaign drops seal on podium
    WASHINGTON (Map, News) - After days of media mockery, Barack Obama has decided to stop using a presidential-looking seal that his campaign designed and affixed to his podium on Friday.

    Journalists said the seal, which features an eagle clutching arrows and an olive branch, smacks of arrogance. John McCain's camp had a field day, calling the seal “laughable, ridiculous, preposterous and revealing - all at the same time.”

    The seal was con uously missing from Obama's lectern when he spoke to a group of women in Albuquerque on Monday. Not surprising, given how much grief Obama took from a normally laudatory press corps after unveiling the seal at an appearance in Chicago on Friday.

    “What a bizarre and dumb idea,” railed NBC political director Chuck Todd. “It really feeds the arrogance narrative.”

    The oversized blue seal was emblazoned with the Latin phrase “Vero Possumus,” which roughly translates into “yes, we can.” It also featured a plug for the candidate's website.

    “The Audacity of Hype,” cracked ABC's Jake Tapper. “No word on whether they played a remix of 'Hail to the Chief' as Obama walked in.”

    Andrew Malcolm of the Los Angeles Times observed that Obama “has decided not to wait for any of the formalities like a presidential election, an inauguration or even a nomination, which he still hasn't actually officially won yet.”

    Marc Ambinder of the Atlantic magazine was the first to note that Obama would deep-six the seal.

    “I'm told that Obama recognizes that it was a silly mistake,” Ambinder said. “Does the press think Obama is arrogant? Yes.”

    Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia's Center for Politics, said the episode reinforces this media perception of Obama.

    “The press corps adopts a subtext for each candidate,” Sabato told The Examiner. “Daddy Bush was 'a nice guy but out of touch.' Bill Clinton was 'smart but randy.' Bob Dole was 'heroic but too old.' Gore was 'brilliant but a fibber and a bore.' Dubya was 'pleasant but dumb.'”

    He added: “Obama's subtext is rapidly becoming 'charismatic but arrogant.'”

    The Obama campaign declined to comment.

    http://www.examiner.com/a-1455131~Ob...on_podium.html


    Information has leaked out that Obama is pushing to have his picture replace that of U.S. Grant on the fitty dollar bill. developing...

    http://www.Imanarrogantazz/charlatan.b3.html/uploads50%

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    Had a new logo;

    Obama campaign drops seal on podium
    WASHINGTON (Map, News) - After days of media mockery, Barack Obama has decided to stop using a presidential-looking seal that his campaign designed and affixed to his podium on Friday.

    Journalists said the seal, which features an eagle clutching arrows and an olive branch, smacks of arrogance. John McCain's camp had a field day, calling the seal “laughable, ridiculous, preposterous and revealing - all at the same time.”

    The seal was con uously missing from Obama's lectern when he spoke to a group of women in Albuquerque on Monday. Not surprising, given how much grief Obama took from a normally laudatory press corps after unveiling the seal at an appearance in Chicago on Friday.

    “What a bizarre and dumb idea,” railed NBC political director Chuck Todd. “It really feeds the arrogance narrative.”

    The oversized blue seal was emblazoned with the Latin phrase “Vero Possumus,” which roughly translates into “yes, we can.” It also featured a plug for the candidate's website.

    “The Audacity of Hype,” cracked ABC's Jake Tapper. “No word on whether they played a remix of 'Hail to the Chief' as Obama walked in.”

    Andrew Malcolm of the Los Angeles Times observed that Obama “has decided not to wait for any of the formalities like a presidential election, an inauguration or even a nomination, which he still hasn't actually officially won yet.”

    Marc Ambinder of the Atlantic magazine was the first to note that Obama would deep-six the seal.

    “I'm told that Obama recognizes that it was a silly mistake,” Ambinder said. “Does the press think Obama is arrogant? Yes.”

    Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia's Center for Politics, said the episode reinforces this media perception of Obama.

    “The press corps adopts a subtext for each candidate,” Sabato told The Examiner. “Daddy Bush was 'a nice guy but out of touch.' Bill Clinton was 'smart but randy.' Bob Dole was 'heroic but too old.' Gore was 'brilliant but a fibber and a bore.' Dubya was 'pleasant but dumb.'”

    He added: “Obama's subtext is rapidly becoming 'charismatic but arrogant.'”

    The Obama campaign declined to comment.

    http://www.examiner.com/a-1455131~Ob...on_podium.html


    Information has leaked out that Obama is pushing to have his picture replace that of U.S. Grant on the fitty dollar bill. developing...

    http://www.Imanarrogantazz/charlatan.b3.html/uploads50%
    Somebody needs to photoshop a big ass shiny gold plated Mercedes Benz logo over that one. Just representin' homie...

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    Yes, and it was at random, not on purpose. There are more Democrats than Republicans in America, and more Independents than Republicans, too.

    The poll isn't really flawed like you want it to be.
    If you poll more democrats/indies how do you think the poll is going to lean?

    That 15% if true isnt going to hold up, there hasnt been an election with that margin of victory since Reagan.

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    I would like to think the voter turnout will be better, but not to elect Obama. My fear is that the democrats will gain a super majority in the house and senate.
    I have to wonder. He now is making all these noises about competing in all 50 states, doesn't make sense. His campaign pushing this makes me think that maybe their internals are showing he doesn't have the support in the big Democratic states that everyone is reporting. Hence, his campaign backing out of their promise to take public money, and all the strings attached. And
    Obama bringing out the race card so soon. Is he trying for the sympathy vote and trying to solidfy the black vote. I saw a headline in the paper this morning, didn't read the article, something about they had "found" all these black voters....strange. I find it hard to believe any had been lost. As many on here know the public polls may show a whole lot different picture than the internals do.

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    Had a new logo;

    Obama campaign drops seal on podium
    WASHINGTON (Map, News) - After days of media mockery, Barack Obama has decided to stop using a presidential-looking seal that his campaign designed and affixed to his podium on Friday.

    Journalists said the seal, which features an eagle clutching arrows and an olive branch, smacks of arrogance. John McCain's camp had a field day, calling the seal “laughable, ridiculous, preposterous and revealing - all at the same time.”

    The seal was con uously missing from Obama's lectern when he spoke to a group of women in Albuquerque on Monday. Not surprising, given how much grief Obama took from a normally laudatory press corps after unveiling the seal at an appearance in Chicago on Friday.

    “What a bizarre and dumb idea,” railed NBC political director Chuck Todd. “It really feeds the arrogance narrative.”

    The oversized blue seal was emblazoned with the Latin phrase “Vero Possumus,” which roughly translates into “yes, we can.” It also featured a plug for the candidate's website.

    “The Audacity of Hype,” cracked ABC's Jake Tapper. “No word on whether they played a remix of 'Hail to the Chief' as Obama walked in.”

    Andrew Malcolm of the Los Angeles Times observed that Obama “has decided not to wait for any of the formalities like a presidential election, an inauguration or even a nomination, which he still hasn't actually officially won yet.”

    Marc Ambinder of the Atlantic magazine was the first to note that Obama would deep-six the seal.

    “I'm told that Obama recognizes that it was a silly mistake,” Ambinder said. “Does the press think Obama is arrogant? Yes.”

    Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia's Center for Politics, said the episode reinforces this media perception of Obama.

    “The press corps adopts a subtext for each candidate,” Sabato told The Examiner. “Daddy Bush was 'a nice guy but out of touch.' Bill Clinton was 'smart but randy.' Bob Dole was 'heroic but too old.' Gore was 'brilliant but a fibber and a bore.' Dubya was 'pleasant but dumb.'”

    He added: “Obama's subtext is rapidly becoming 'charismatic but arrogant.'”

    The Obama campaign declined to comment.

    http://www.examiner.com/a-1455131~Ob...on_podium.html


    Information has leaked out that Obama is pushing to have his picture replace that of U.S. Grant on the fitty dollar bill. developing...

    http://www.Imanarrogantazz/charlatan.b3.html/uploads50%


    IOKIYAR

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    I think a poll showing Obama with a 15 point lead, while other polls show him with a 4 or 5 point lead, is called an "outlier."

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    I have to wonder. He now is making all these noises about competing in all 50 states, doesn't make sense. His campaign pushing this makes me think that maybe their internals are showing he doesn't have the support in the big Democratic states that everyone is reporting. Hence, his campaign backing out of their promise to take public money, and all the strings attached. And
    Obama bringing out the race card so soon. Is he trying for the sympathy vote and trying to solidfy the black vote. I saw a headline in the paper this morning, didn't read the article, something about they had "found" all these black voters....strange. I find it hard to believe any had been lost. As many on here know the public polls may show a whole lot different picture than the internals do.
    I think he needs a token white guy for vice-president. If he goes with Hillary, I think it's McCain election to lose. Now, McCain needs to start running furiously away from dubya, and SOON.
    Candidate-wise, this is probably one of the worst elections I can remember.

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    New poll suggests Obama can beat McCain in Florida

    By Beth Reinhard | McClatchy Newspapers

    MIAMI — In a sign that Democrat Barack Obama will be compe ive in Florida, the nation's largest swing state, a new poll shows that Obama is leading Republican John McCain comfortably in South Florida and has a slight edge among Hispanics.


    The poll for The Miami Herald shows Obama preferred by a 46-30 percent margin over McCain in Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties, Florida's most populous area. South Florida traditionally votes Democratic, but the size of the margin often dictates whether the Democrat wins in a statewide contest.


    "Obama's 16-point lead in South Florida could springboard him to make it a compe ive race statewide," said pollster John Zogby, whose Zogby International conducted he poll of 807 people. The poll has a margin of error of 3.5 percent.


    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/104/story/41976.html

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    I demand the OP formally apologize and retract his brazen use of Barack Obama's middle name in the thread le. It's uncalled for, and all Americans should be outraged.

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    why, because this is the first time in 26 years a bush or clinton isn't on the ballot?
    Well, Hillary still has a shot. My reasoning, as far as the democrats is concerned, is that not only both Hillary and Obama have to deal with the burden of campaigning and beating McCain, but also have the burden to convince skeptics that a woman and/or a color guy can be president of this nation.
    The problem with McCain is that one day he looks like he's different from Bush, and the next he doesn't. Too many mixed signals. Most of the Republicans I know will probably end up voting for him, but they're not necessarily happy or onthe same page with the guy.

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    Obama is leading McCain among Black voters by a razor thin 93% to 3%.

    The good news here for the McCain camp is that barring McCain have a senior moment and going into an impromptu rendition of Al Jolson's "My Mammy", the 3% appears to be rock solid.


    Notable: A whopping 72% of Black men favoring McCain share the first name of Tom.

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    If you poll more democrats/indies how do you think the poll is going to lean?

    That 15% if true isnt going to hold up, there hasnt been an election with that margin of victory since Reagan.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion...ooling_methods
    Please, read.

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    Obama is leading McCain among Black voters by a razor thin 93% to 3%.

    The good news here for the McCain camp is that barring McCain have a senior moment and going into an impromptu rendition of Al Jolson's "My Mammy", the 3% appears to be rock solid.


    Notable: A whopping 72% of Black men favoring McCain share the first name of Tom.
    This could be used as an argument showing how racist blacks are.

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    This could be used as an argument showing how racist blacks are.
    It could. But white people crying foul over racism?
    Media would have a field day

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    Whitey is oppressed.

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    Obama's, who had a 15% point lead over McCain just 5 days ago, is now in a dead with him! Bouts?


    Gallup Daily: PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update on the presidential election finds John McCain and Barack Obama exactly tied at 45% among registered voters nationwide.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/108376/Ga...n-Tied-45.aspx


    Is the Silver Tongue becoming a bit tarnished?

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    Nah, the Gallup poll wasn't that far off from last week.

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    Nah, the Gallup poll wasn't that far off from last week.
    Right, the Gallup Poll never showed anything near a 15% disparity, the 15% drop in support was in comparing Gallup to Newsweek, and was posted to burst the bouton's Obama-runaway bubble.

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    The Story of the Race So Far -- the Surprising Weakness of John McCain


    First Newsweek showed Obama up 51-36. Now LATimes/Bloomberg has it 48-33. The two daily tracks Rasmussen and Gallup still have it 4-6 points.

    So where are we?

    I believe deeply that the race for president wants to be a 10 point Obama victory. The underlining structure of the 2008 campaign has Democrats with 10 plus point advantages in all the major measures -- party ID, congressional and presidential generic ballot test.

    In 2006, the national vote for Congress broke about 53-46, and Tom Davis, the savvy GOP Congressman, says the environment is much worse this year. Democrats are showing incredible intensity, and have created a new model of politics that will allow them to involve millions of partisans to help the campaign as never before. As I wrote recently, Democratic leaning groups -- women, African-Americans, Hispanics and Millennials -- turned out in very high numbers in the Democratic primaries, offering what might be a very different electorate in 2008.

    McCain is by any historic measure, a weak and bumbling candidate, ill-suited for a presidential race, and is still struggling to bring his party together -- a party which has never liked him very much anyway.

    The polling has been remarkably consistent in one regard. In almost every poll, Obama is in the high 40s, which would lead one to believe this is actually where he is now. What is changing is McCain's number, which is moving around in a range from the low 40s to mid-30s. 42, 42, 38, 36 and now 33.

    The conclusion -- Obama is definitively ahead of John McCain at this point. Obama has unified his party and overcome problems he had with groups in the primary. He is already ahead in polls in enough states, including CO, FL, MI, NM and PA to see his path to electoral college victory. All rather remarkable for this bi-racial candidate with a funny name who few had heard of even a year ago.

    McCain, on the other hand, is clearly struggling to get even into the low 40s on a consistent basis. He is having a hard time bringing his party together, and his electoral college map looks problematic now. Even if Obama wins by 4-5 points, it is by presidential standards a landslide. Bush never won by that amount in either of his races. These new double digit polls also show that it is possible for this race to end up where it wants to be - which is Obama winning by 10 or more. Even the ambition of the Obama buy this week is as much about McCain's weakness as it about Obama's strength.

    I always assumed that this race would be close until October and then would break open for Obama with him winning by 5-10 points. But the fact that we are seeing this degree of McCain weakness this early is surprising to me, and it is this weakness that is the story of the presidential race so far.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/simon-..._b_109255.html

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    It's still very early, but assassination is the only way for McFlopPander to beat HUSSEIN!

    Fear-mongering and distancing from dubya won't work. The Repug mucky-mucks know they are ed in 2008.

    Old Sick Senile 95% McFlopPanderKeating has been talking about WWIII and the need for the draft. Just when you thought he couldn't get any dumber, he goes and does dumberer. Highly entertaning, this joker.

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    Fear-mongering and distancing from dubya won't work. The Repug mucky-mucks know they are screwed in 2008.
    Just like they were in 2000 and 2004. The problem is in the Dems propensity for nominating weak candidates.

    Scary thought, huh?

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