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    I have no problem taking a big at 26. Bigman is by far the strength of this draft. It's actually one of the deepest bigman drafts I've ever seen. That said, Ryan Anderson just isn't a good fit.

    The Spurs need a guy who can block shots next to Duncan. As Duncan ages, the aspect of his game that will deteriorate fastest will be his help defense ability. Drafting Anderson, who just might be the worst shot blocking bigman in the draft, is another step in the wrong direction. The Spurs can't keep getting softer and softer next to Duncan.

    Offensively, I like Anderson. I think he can make it on the right team. If you want to compare his stats after his first two seasons in college, the players he most compares to are Keith Van Horn, Troy Murphy, Danny Granger and Joe Smith. That's nice company -- especially for 26.

    But even those guys destroy Anderson when it comes to defense in college. Anderson averaged around one block+steal per game. Van Horn more than doubled that, Murphy almost tripled that, Granger was four times better and Smith was more than five times better. The Spurs really think their defense can survive by putting this guy into the lineup? Really?

    Plus I'm not 100% sure he'll make it even on the offensive end. He has a low release point on his jumper, which he could have problems getting off in the NBA.

    I'll be happy if the Spurs draft a bigman in the first because it's probably the highest value position. But just not the worst defensive one in the draft. Is that really too much to ask?


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    Why is everyone thinking they are complacent?
    Everyone would like to put a positive spin on almost everything. It's not suprising because it's prevalent in many ares of life for alot of people.

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    With a low 1st round/2nd round pick I think the first consideration is whether or not that player can actually be a NBA player.
    The only way this would make any sense to me is if the Spurs see Anderson as one of the very few legit NBA prospects. If that's the case, you draft him even if he doesn't fit.

    But I think it's too early for the Spurs to be thinking it's Ryan Anderson or bust at this point. Luckily, I think this report is BS. But we will see.

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    I'll believe it when I see it.

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    Right now Rod Thorne is reading this thread thinking "Scrap the plan, ANDERSON IS OUR MAN!!"

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    I don't want Anderson. The spurs need to get more athletic and start going away from filling the team with guys who just stand on the perimeter looking for the perimeter shot.

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    Everyone would like to put a positive spin on almost everything.
    Quite the opposite.
    It's not suprising because it's prevalent in many ares of life for alot of people.
    I guess, but Spurs homerism is one of the few positive at udes I have in my cynical life.

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    I don't want Anderson. The spurs need to get more athletic and start going away from filling the team with guys who just stand on the perimeter looking for the perimeter shot.
    So they take another Marcus Williams and hope that he pans out.

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    I guess, but Spurs homerism is one of the few positive at udes I have in my cynical life.
    Which begats the next question: what's the penalty for said homerism?

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    He must try to kill himself with a flare gun

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    I have no problem taking a big at 26. Bigman is by far the strength of this draft. It's actually one of the deepest bigman drafts I've ever seen. That said, Ryan Anderson just isn't a good fit.

    The Spurs need a guy who can block shots next to Duncan. As Duncan ages, the aspect of his game that will deteriorate fastest will be his help defense ability. Drafting Anderson, who just might be the worst shot blocking bigman in the draft, is another step in the wrong direction. The Spurs can't keep getting softer and softer next to Duncan.

    I'll be happy if the Spurs draft a bigman in the first because it's probably the highest value position. But just not the worst defensive one in the draft. Is that really too much to ask?

    The landscape of compe ion in the West is getting tougher, especially along the frontlines with the likes of Oden and Aldridge; O'Neal & Stoudamire; Bynum and Gasol. The dependency on Duncan to man both ends of the floor is getting greater each season, when in actuality, his offensive and defensive loads should be decreasing over the next couple of years. Which would prolong his career.

    Though he was a beast in the playoffs, it's obvious Duncan badly needs a running mate - not another soft-skills big man who can't defend, can't block shots or rebound the ball. That's precisely why I agree with Timvp, in questioning the logic of the Anderson pick.

    This is also why I've been touting the FA acquisition of Desgana Diop. Unless of course, the FO can come up with a rookie big that can provide some of the same defensive skillset and paint presence. I realize Diop has virtually no offense. So it's a matter of trying to get a good balance of both offense and defense. Other than Robin Lopez, I don't see another big in the first round that is capable of providing that lift.

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    The landscape of compe ion in the West is getting tougher, especially along the frontlines with the likes of Oden and Aldridge; O'Neal & Stoudamire; Bynum and Gasol. The dependency on Duncan to man both ends of the floor is getting greater each season, when in actuality, his offensive and defensive loads should be decreasing over the next couple of years. Which would prolong his career.

    Though he was a beast in the playoffs, it's obvious Duncan badly needs a running mate - not another soft-skills big man who can't defend, can't block shots or rebound the ball. That's precisely why I agree with Timvp, in questioning the logic of the Anderson pick.

    This is also why I've been touting the FA acquisition of Desgana Diop. Unless of course, the FO can come up with a rookie big that can provide some of the same defensive skillset and paint presence. I realize Diop has virtually no offense. So it's a matter of trying to get a good balance of both offense and defense. Other than Robin Lopez, I don't see another big in the first round that is capable of providing that lift.
    How about Ian Mahinmi as that shotblocking and rebounding prospect? Spurs fans seem to forget him.

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    Which begats the next question: what's the penalty for said homerism?
    Losing every other year?

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    Losing every other year?
    I think I'm done cutting myself.

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    How about Ian Mahinmi as that shotblocking and rebounding prospect? Spurs fans seem to forget him.
    Is he ready to begin contributing right now? Will Pop give the young fella some consistent burn or will he banish him to occasional trips to the doghouse?

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    The only way this would make any sense to me is if the Spurs see Anderson as one of the very few legit NBA prospects. If that's the case, you draft him even if he doesn't fit.

    But I think it's too early for the Spurs to be thinking it's Ryan Anderson or bust at this point. Luckily, I think this report is BS. But we will see.
    Yeah. On the one hand the Spurs are allegedly moving up to draft a bigman whose stock is based on his defensive capabilities. On the other, they are taking Anderson.

    My guess is that the Spurs are blowing smoke. I could see them moving up to take a Chalmers or a Greene. At #26, I think a big like Hickson or Hendrix has more of a Spurs' profile.

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    Is he ready to begin contributing right now? Will Pop give the young fella some consistent burn or will he banish him to occasional trips to the doghouse?
    Does that differ from anyone else in this draft? He's going to get his shot next season.

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    How about Ian Mahinmi as that shotblocking and rebounding prospect? Spurs fans seem to forget him.
    It's about time someone mentions him. We don't really need another bigman. maybe use the late 2nd rounder on one and develop him, but besides that, we have Mahinmi to watch out for already.

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    I sure hope they'r blowing smoke. After all, CIA Pop is never one to divulge details of any kind to the media. I wonder how Chad Ford became so convinced the Spurs were "leaning toward" Anderson?

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    You can't sign Diop AND and a JR Smith.

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    I sure hope they'r blowing smoke. After all, CIA Pop is never one to divulge details of any kind to the media. I wonder how Chad Ford became so convinced the Spurs were "leaning toward" Anderson?

    Because probably someone in the organization told him.

    Hes yet to learn of the CIA distraction tactics.

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    It's about time someone mentions him. We don't really need another bigman. maybe use the late 2nd rounder on one and develop him, but besides that, we have Mahinmi to watch out for already.
    Well, there will be room in Austin for one once Mahinmi joins the rotation.

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    Yeah I like the idea of a Hendrix or someone of that ilk playing down in Austin for a year or two while Mahinmi gets his PT with the big boys.

    IMO all three picks should have the at ude of BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE. Position be damned.

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    I just read that Pop said not to expect an impact player in the draft, do not know what that means, but.........

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    I just read that Pop said not to expect an impact player in the draft, do not know what that means, but.........
    Standard pre-draft comments.

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