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Who does she owe? Vendors? Who the heck are they?
Obama asks donors to help Clinton with debt
Wed Jun 25, 12:20 AM
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By The Associated Press
WASHINGTON - Democrat Barack Obama on Tuesday asked his finance team to help Hillary Rodham Clinton pay off a debt of at least $10 million from her failed presidential campaign, setting the stage for joint appearances by the two former rivals later in the week.
In a teleconference with his top fundraisers Tuesday afternoon, Obama asked them to do what they could to help Clinton, according to two Democrats familiar with the call. A campaign spokesman confirmed that Obama had asked them to help the former first lady.
"Some of our donors have asked and Barack said if they have the ability to raise or give money to help on debt, we encourage them to do so," spokesman Robert Gibbs said.
Obama's green light to his money bundlers came two days before he and Clinton were scheduled to meet in Washington with some of her top fundraisers in a show of unity after their bruising contest for the Democratic presidential nomination. On Friday, the two planned to campaign together in New Hampshire.
Obama clinched the nomination earlier this month; Clinton suspended her campaign and endorsed him.
The former first lady reported a $22.5 million debt at the end of May, more than half of which was a personal loan to her presidential campaign. Clinton, in a call to her top fundraisers last week, said she would concentrate on paying off money owed to vendors, not her personal loans.
Obama's finance team has expanded since he secured the nomination earlier this month, providing a broad base of potential assistance to Clinton. At least 200 fundraisers attended the campaign's national finance meeting in Chicago last week. Scores were unable to attend, one participant said.
In urging his top fundraisers to help Clinton, Obama was counting on them to seek out their pool of donors to raise the money in large increments. Donors who have not contributed to Clinton's campaign could give up to $2,300 to help her pay off her debts.
It remained to be seen whether Obama would make a similar appeal to his Internet donors, a vast network of small-dollar contributors who helped Obama shatter fundraising records during the primary contests. As of the end of May, Obama had raised more than $287 million.
Clinton donors had been making a clear case to Obama that he needed to use his fundraising resources to help her get out of the red. Her national finance co-chair, Hassan Nemazee, told The Associated Press last week that Clinton would be freer to campaign for Obama and raise money for him if she did not have to concentrate on retiring her debt.
Moreover, Nemazee said, it would be easier for Clinton fundraisers who wanted to help Obama to be able to tell former Clinton donors, "Look what Senator Obama has done for Senator Clinton."
At least one Obama supporter said that message was heard, prompting Obama's entreaty to his finance team on Tuesday.
Who does she owe? Vendors? Who the heck are they?
I think her campaign owes her individually.
Just post links to AP stories from now on. They are becoming s about it.
How awful must it be to ask for money for a cause that has already failed?
"We spent too much money failing. Please help us out"
happens every election
She owes several $M to loser Mark Penn's company, and she lent, IIRC, $9M to her campaign.
Mostly local businesses of various sizes that her campaign ordered things from and didn't pay.
Example:
State organization orders bumper stickers, gets them distributes them, but doesn't pay print shop.
Campaign signs lease for office space, uses it, then leaves the place in shambles, and doesn't pay property owner for use of space or clean up.
Campaign orders catered food, and doesn't pay after eating food.
etc.
She did pay for her advertising up front though. Everything else got pushed down the road in hopes of winning.
Basically she ran her campaign at the involuntary expense of a lot of small businesses. Not quite the "blue collar" cred she hoped for.
Really?
How so? This sounds like good gossip.
IF you read the link, it points out how weak the AP's case would be if they went to court about it.
"fair use" covers a lot of things.
I would emphasize one very valid point here from that link
Third, it is hard to see how the posting of AP headlines and 80 word snippets could possibly impair the market for the original AP articles (when evaluating fair use claims, courts are most concerned with whether the copying will undercut the market for the original work). Instead, the posts AP is complaining about would seem to be doing just the opposite. Users of Drudge Retort, and sites like it, post these headlines and snippets for the very purpose of alerting others that some interesting piece of news exists. These snippets invariably include links to the original articles and serve to drive traffic to the site hosting the original AP story.
I would think that if you are good at making sure you have the original link, you are probably ok.
Even if not, simply posting smaller quotes would 99% make a post of an AP article here within the "fair use" doctrine.
You're probably right, but I doubt Kori and LJ want to be the test case for this issue.
Well, this would be a different case, actually.
Kori and LJ, who run/own the board, aren't the ones doing the posting, as in the cited news article.
Their legal responsibility would not extend to being "copyright police" for everything posted on the board.
This would represent an "undue burden" on them to enforce others' rights in legal terms.
I would be willing to bet there is already a legal precedent about message boards and posted copyrighted articles. Might be interesting to look up.
But the AP was dealing with the owner/operator of Drudge Retort, not the posters. Are there no potential repercussions for him had he simply ignored the AP's request?
sons Butch and Bill Clinton have a net worth between 100-200 million. they can pay the themselves
But they don't have to.
It's the dimm-o-crap way. You are suppose to help your human-kind man/woman.
Well all except Obama and Billary, who have tons of money. They ask for investments to help defer the cost of the of the people for the advancement of mankind. It is a crisis you know. Also like the
investment of your money for the health care of children. Give till it hurts, then give just a tad more.
McCain could just get money from his spouse too.
Why is he still asking for money?
Is he paying off a debt? I didn't know that.
The McCain campaign has no expenses? I didn't know that.
I just want to know one thing. Where were you when the Mansion burned? And can you prove it?
Actually, one of the DMCA take down notices was about a quote one of users posted in the comments section of an article. So yeah, it included the posters.
I was at the bus stop they moved to avoid terra attacks on the capitol.
Was the poster contacted as well?
Let Her Work Her Debts Off Like The Rest Of Americans Do, Her.
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