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Bad hands, inability to grasp the defense, slow.
I liked Mohammed and he showed flashes, but he didn't do much to justify resigning or keeping himself in SA. Detroit is STILL kicking themselves over that FA signing.
So how come he got burn? His offense? How did we win a chip with him being a main guy in the playoffs?
Bad hands, inability to grasp the defense, slow.
I liked Mohammed and he showed flashes, but he didn't do much to justify resigning or keeping himself in SA. Detroit is STILL kicking themselves over that FA signing.
i guess you forgot to read the rest, i said "i guess you can call me that when it comes to basketball players"
but overall, i'm not racist.......
Ahh so your a selective racist.
That makes alot of sense.
He did fill a nice role during those playoffs.
But overall in his time here, he was consistently out of position on both ends of the floor. Combine that with his stone hands, and Oberto represented an upgrade.
And Nazr was not a shot blocker, not even close. Elson was actually a better shot blocker in his time here.
The whole point of this was to say we need a big to change shots whether by blocked shots of just changing them, we need another big. I never said he was the best shot blocker, I said he was good and changed shots.
Well theres this french kid.....
As a compliment to him since splitter is not coming over. There was already "this french kid" when they drafted splitter and expected him to be here this year.
I don't seem him being a good fit for this team. But I still say Hibbert's more athletic than you give him credit for. He's not gonna remind anyone of Amare, but I wouldn't label him a "stiff" either. Remember that he basically worked Greg Oden last year. His pedestrian stats are more indicative of the offensive that he played in than his actual ability.
He's a good defender, decent shot-blocker, has good hands, nice touch around the rim, is a terrific passer, and has a very high basketball IQ.
I could see him being a Vlade Divac type in the league - and that does have some value. Kinda a 12/8 type of guy in 25-30 mpg.
Except he wasn't and he didn't (relative to other centers).
Not only Elson, but Thomas and Horry were also better shot blockers than Nazr.
So Nazr could not play D, could not alter shots, had terrible hands, yet played for the Spurs and helped them win a championship? Did Elson or Thomas do that?
Yeah I think Elson helped in 07......
Elson did not play nearly the role that Nazr did in the championship.
Nazr's role in the championship is reaching Speedy Claxton like status.
speedy>nazr
Yeah, Elson did. And Thomas is a superior player to either, we just didn't have a healthy Manu this time around.
It's not like these are outlandish statements, the numbers are right there in black and white that prove that Nazr wasn't a shot blocker. And when he's blocking less than one shot per game, you know that he's not altering too many more.
Yeah a healthy Manu propels the Spurs to back to backs.
And people like me and others who championed the move for Thomas would've looked alot smarter
While I say that, i still stand by the acquisition. He was the best bigman available and was a stud in the phoenix series.
I think an offseason plus a training camp and full season with the team will do wonders.
I would like to see what you were saying about Nazr when he was playing a huge role, you were probably jocking him. I never said he was a great shot blocker, I said he was a big man that clogged up the lane and altered shots, thats all, and he played way more of a role than Elson did.
Horry played the majority of bigman minutes in 05 and was the main guy next to Duncan.
So, in a way, Elson's role minute wise wasn't as big, but the roles were the same.
Elson will not get the contract that Nazr got, so obviously others seemed to see something in him.
Elson was a bust for us, Nazr was not...
No doubt a healthy Manu helps, but the whole point of this was saying the Spurs defense has slipped and they need a big man to help out (Hibbert) to go along with Ian. Manu healthy is no guarantee we win, the Celtics D was far and away the best in the league.
Both of the moves resulted in championships.
Both were neither busts.
It was 7 points and 7 boards per game in 23 mpg in those playoffs. And these numbers dropped to 4.8 ppg & 6 rpg in the finals (including a goose egg in game 7).
Nice little role player, but it's not like we're renaming the Finals MVP award after him.
Nazr Mohammed
Speedy Claxton
the names of superstars in the minds of Spurs fans
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