My World Series of Poker eperiemce:

[Heath Ledger]

Hey man he has the right to play how he wants to, however in a tournament longevity in the tourney is the goal. Its a game of survival. Coin flips are not ideal in with so much poker left to play, had he laid his hand down he would have had around 17 or 18k to work with to find a better spot. Instead he is out of the tourney. The raise preflop was fine typical a and b poker but the call not so much and if you posted this on a forum such as realpokertraining or twoplustwo which has lots of pros lurking you will keep hearing similar things that myself and manny are saying. Im not claiming to be a pro however i am consistantly profitable both online and in live mtt's.

Its also a matter of differences in game theory/opinions. Some people are just willing to gamble a bit more often, those types of players either ac ulate huge stacks or go home early. Nothing wrong with that either.

I just put my opinion out there if that makes me a bag then wtf ever.

[Jimcs50]

My gut feeling was right from the start that the BB was now chipped up and he was just trying to play back at the button who raised him 3 times in an hour and 15 mins, and he thought that I had a marginal hand, and I would fold to his 7400 raise. Had I folded, I will bet money that he was going to show the QJ off to me and tell me that he would defend from now on, so be careful.

This is real good dialoge here about the hand, I am learning a lot....I wish I could have phoned a friend prior to my action preflop.

[tlongII]

Poker sucks ass. The only reason I would play it would be to get a chance to tag Evelyn's ass.

[Jimcs50]

Hey man he has the right to play how he wants to, however in a tournament longevity in the tourney is the goal. Its a game of survival. Coin flips are not ideal in with so much poker left to play, had he laid his hand down he would have had around 17 or 18k to work with to find a better spot. Instead he is out of the tourney. The raise preflop was fine typical a and b poker but the call not so much and if you posted this on a forum such as realpokertraining or twoplustwo which has lots of pros lurking you will keep hearing similar things that myself and manny are saying. Im not claiming to be a pro however i am consistantly profitable both online and in live mtt's.

Its also a matter of differences in game theory/opinions. Some people are just willing to gamble a bit more often, those types of players either ac ulate huge stacks or go home early. Nothing wrong with that either.

I just put my opinion out there if that makes me a bag then wtf ever.

I am not a gambler preflop at all. I want to see flops, and go from there. I am what you call tight aggressive. I play connectors, but only if I am getting 4-1 odds or better, unless I suspect bull from the raiser.

[Cry Havoc]

Without a doubt playing your reads is far more profitable than any preflop strategy but the best LAGs in the world will you how awful hands like KQ/KJ are to usually do this with. I'm not speaking in Jim's sense, but in a general sense.

I have a question for you since you say the cards don't matter. What do you think Jim does if the flop comes 223 rainbow and the big blind bets out half the pot?

I didn't say they don't matter. I say they're 50/50 with the person you're playing. I think Jim made a read here (the correct one, FWIW) and just got busted by the one card that beats him. That happens to almost everyone in every tournament.

[Jimcs50]

Poker sucks ass. The only reason I would play it would be to get a chance to tag Evelyn's ass.

I wish she would have come to me to console me after my horrific beat.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm now curious though, what would you do if the flop missed you completely and the bb bets about half the pot?

[Heath Ledger]

lets see i think he had $21k pre-preflop, so he now has $11k left after calling off half his stack, there should be $20,600 in the pot half pot sized bet of 10k that basicly makes him go all in with air or fold and play shortstacked poker (which is easy by the way)

Im curious to see his answer as well. These are things you need to think about before you make those calls, Im calling off half my stack here, hmm what happens if i miss the flop and he bets out? Oh im comittted, oh well hes giving me 3-1 though....

[scott]

I haven't played poker in about 3 years, and frankly can't even remember if a pair beats a royal flush, but I bet I could still take all Manny's money.

[MannyIsGod]

All in blind . All in blind.

[scott]

, I shoulda straddled.

Anyway... cool story Jim. Tough beat, but now you've got a great story!

[Jimcs50]

I'm now curious though, what would you do if the flop missed you completely and the bb bets about half the pot?

I would have folded had a jack, nor 2 spades not hit the board, but if 2 spades flopped, I probably would have called, because I was getting 3-1 on my call and if he had a pair under kings, I would have 12 outs and I would have been in a virtual coinflip, and getting 3-1 odds in a coinflip is a no brainer.

There are times in a tourney that you have to make a decision for all your chips, and even if it is on a draw, if you are getting the proper odds, you have to gamble.

[Jimcs50]

, I shoulda straddled.

Anyway... cool story Jim. Tough beat, but now you've got a great story!

Thanks Scott.

Speaking of straddling. I usually straddle, but the morning I was leaving, I sat down for an hour and a half with my two buddies in a 10 handed 1-2 NL game. I was distracted and tired and I forgot to straddle. I look down and see KK. I raise to 12 and get only 1 caller in the SB. The flop:

K Q something

I bet 10, he calls, the turn is another small card, I bet 20, he folds.



Had I straddled like usual, I would have probably had at least 5 players in the hand and someone would have hit something in that flop and I might have made a lot more than 22 bucks.....so lesson learned....pay attention!!!

[Jimcs50]

I am even more depressed. I just watched a replay of the 2005 Final table, and nobody hit any 2 outters to suck out. Fuuuck me!

[Fabbs]

Where are the player by player (everyone) results for 2008 so far?

[Jimcs50]

Anyone watching the Main Event on Tuesdays?

I am glad that they play the Final table in Nov. so we do not already know who won before they even start televising it, like other years. Like last year when I already knew Jerry Yang would suck his way out to the le. Mike Matasow is playing well, hope he makes it to Final table. As an aside, Patrik Antonius' fiance', Maya Geller is hot, hope she stays in for a long time, as she is easy on the eyes.

[Heath Ledger]

I'll be watching it. I have been running bad for a month up until a few nights ago I chopped at Caesars followed by two final tables one of which with another small cash.

[Anti.Hero]

So apparently online poker for u.s. citizens is illegal? I did not know this.



Pretty pretty pretty pretty gay.

[MannyIsGod]

its quasi legal/illegal. No actual law on the books saying its illegal, but that doesn't stop the Justice dept.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

That beat hurts like Jim, but well done and thanks for the story.

And nice commentary by the boys - it is making me think about the way I play.

As for how I'm going this year - haven't played much, was up a little until I made a tired read on the river a few weeks ago and lost my stack to a head, now I'm even again. Time to start thinking and playing again though, because this thread has me all fired up and interested again!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

At those blind levels, you should have folded the reraise, if it was a shorter stack insta call, however you don't want to get into coinflip situation still so early in the tourney especially if someone has you covered. yes it sucks to have to fold but live to see another day, you made a semi good read but the end result of course sucked cuz he sucked out on you. KJ suited and reraised is an instafold, any pair is ahead and u must worry about jj qq kk aa and ak all of which have you crushed. You made an amateur call and were asking for trouble in that situation still fairly early in the tourney. KJ suited is not a premium hand in that situation.

I was thinking the same thing, but then he was reading the game well so I see why he did it. I would have folded and copped the 3 grand loss, but then again, like Manny I suck at tourneys* and wouldn't have gotten that far anyway!

*except when playing at Kori's house...

[Jimcs50]

I play a couple times a week in a raked cash game and I got lucky in one particular hand on Friday night....so it goes both ways.

Blinds are 1-2


I am in the cutoff, I get 10-J spades. Four players limp before me, I limp as well, the button makes in 12 straight. There are 3 callers and I call as well.( I am getting 4-1 on my call)

The Flop:

8 9 2 rainbow.

Open ender...niice.

Everyone checks to me, I check, the button bets 30, the guy under the gun calls, I over call.

The Turn:

7 Bingo...the nuts!!!


The 1st guy bets 30, I smooth call, as the board is pretty harmless (I assume), the original raiser thinks for a minute and moves all in for another 200. The first bettor folds, I call.

The button has 77 and he now has a set, I tell him I have the nuts and want insurance. He has 10 outs for a fullhouse.

The insurance costs me $200, the button tells me that he will just take the insurance and I agree.

The River:

2


Had the button smooth called, I would have lost the whole thing.

So, sometimes, you get greedy and you can lose your ass, I should hae moved all in before the button in order to insure my nut straight.

[Fabbs]

Patrik Antonius' fiance', Mya is hot, hope she stays in for a long time, as she is easy on the eyes.

pics?

Playing. Last night in cash game drew A9 spades, he drew K 10 Spades.
Flop was 3 spades. He bet on flop and turn, i just followed him to the river where he i all in'd him.
Ahhh, that felt good.

[Jimcs50]

pics?

Playing. Last night in cash game drew A9 spades, he drew K 10 Spades.
Flop was 3 spades. He bet on flop and turn, i just followed him to the river where he i all in'd him.
Ahhh, that felt good.

Been there....sucks to be the one with the king.

[Jimcs50]

pics?

http://pokerblog.cc/i-love-maya-geller/