George Hill: Good Pick

[Buddy Holly]

I think Sequ saw that he was black and athletic...

[jayc23]

I've been playing with Hill since we were 10 years old, AAU teams, High School, Hill has played in big tourneys against big compe ion for a long time.. not only did he play against tough division 1 / NBA players such as Courtney Lee, Greg Oden, Connely, and many Division 1/ NBA players.. He probably faced stiffer compe ion in AAU and High school in Indiana than in College, he put up 36.2 PPG against the stiffest compe ion high school basketball had to offer, he put up big numbers in the Adidas ABCD camp against Dwight Howard, and Josh Smith, he slashes, he can shoot lights out, he can elevate above the rim.. he plays like hes 6'6 + he will have one of the largest wing spans of an NBA point guard.. he is probably one of the greatest sleepers in the Draft.. and Greg P. knew what he was getting.. and he would not have been around late second round.. the pacers were going to pick him 41 if he lasted that long.. and he had many talks and return trips to Boston, he may have went 30 to Boston if he wasn't picked up.. hes got alot more athletic ability and talent than many of you know.

[K-State Spur]

he's a clutch shooter and that's about it IMO.

he did hit the big shot in the le game, so there is no denying that.

however, on the flip side, that shot bailed out him out. because he had been nothing short of terrible in the biggest game of his collegiate career up until that point.

[SequSpur]

I heard he excelled in the essay portion of the tryout.

now that was funny............

[SequSpur]

I've been playing with Hill since we were 10 years old, AAU teams, High School, Hill has played in big tourneys against big compe ion for a long time.. not only did he play against tough division 1 / NBA players such as Courtney Lee, Greg Oden, Connely, and many Division 1/ NBA players.. He probably faced stiffer compe ion in AAU and High school in Indiana than in College, he put up 36.2 PPG against the stiffest compe ion high school basketball had to offer, he put up big numbers in the Adidas ABCD camp against Dwight Howard, and Josh Smith, he slashes, he can shoot lights out, he can elevate above the rim.. he plays like hes 6'6 + he will have one of the largest wing spans of an NBA point guard.. he is probably one of the greatest sleepers in the Draft.. and Greg P. knew what he was getting.. and he would not have been around late second round.. the pacers were going to pick him 41 if he lasted that long.. and he had many talks and return trips to Boston, he may have went 30 to Boston if he wasn't picked up.. hes got alot more athletic ability and talent than many of you know.

From looking at his blog, he was confident that he was going in the first round.

[Buddy Holly]

I like this Hill pick but not taking Hendrix and instead taking Dragic and then eventually trading him for Malik was stupid in my opinion. Hendrix seemed like a perfect fit and could have contributed immediately off the bench.

[midgetonadonkey]

By who his parents. Who was he playing against his fellow garbage men work mates. JV is good at taking out the trash in the mornings. GEORGE HILL WHAT A PICK UP.

He was Big 8 Player of the Year in 1996. He led the Big 8 in all time assists and is Kansas all time assist leader.

But I guess you were only 8 at the time and don't know about it.

But I agree he is now isn't worth a damn. That's why this Hill pick is good.

[GSH]

No. I don't know. It's rather premature and ridiculous at this point to condemn the Spurs about the draft.

You want a reason to condemn this draft? How about this one? They had a chance to pick up Arthur, who has a MUCH stronger history, and value to other teams. And it's a near certainty that nobody else was going to sneak up and grab Hill out from under them.

At the very least, they could have traded him just like they did Dragic, and STILL gotten Hill.

Is that good enough? At that point in the draft, Arthur was by far the best player available. They weren't flexible, and they weren't quick on their feet. They missed a very good opportunity with Arthur, whether it was keeping him or trading him. It was a piss-poor use of that pick.

[Mr. Peabody]

I've been playing with Hill since we were 10 years old, AAU teams, High School, Hill has played in big tourneys against big compe ion for a long time.. not only did he play against tough division 1 / NBA players such as Courtney Lee, Greg Oden, Connely, and many Division 1/ NBA players.. He probably faced stiffer compe ion in AAU and High school in Indiana than in College, he put up 36.2 PPG against the stiffest compe ion high school basketball had to offer, he put up big numbers in the Adidas ABCD camp against Dwight Howard, and Josh Smith, he slashes, he can shoot lights out, he can elevate above the rim.. he plays like hes 6'6 + he will have one of the largest wing spans of an NBA point guard.. he is probably one of the greatest sleepers in the Draft.. and Greg P. knew what he was getting.. and he would not have been around late second round.. the pacers were going to pick him 41 if he lasted that long.. and he had many talks and return trips to Boston, he may have went 30 to Boston if he wasn't picked up.. hes got alot more athletic ability and talent than many of you know.

Are you George Hill's agent...?

[T Park]

You want a reason to condemn this draft? How about this one? They had a chance to pick up Arthur, who has a MUCH stronger history, and value to other teams. And it's a near certainty that nobody else was going to sneak up and grab Hill out from under them.

At the very least, they could have traded him just like they did Dragic, and STILL gotten Hill.

Is that good enough? At that point in the draft, Arthur was by far the best player available. They weren't flexible, and they weren't quick on their feet. They missed a very good opportunity with Arthur, whether it was keeping him or trading him. It was a piss-poor use of that pick.

Had they picked him and traded him you would've found a reason to about anything.

No one is EVER happy.

Sad really.

[Solid D]

He looks like Johnny Dawkins with a jumpshot.

[SequSpur]

He looks like Johnny Dawkins with a jumpshot.

Great take Solid D. Thanks for your contribution.

[Mr. Peabody]

This is a pretty good draft night blog from Hill's school. Evidently he was overflowing with emotion after the Spurs picked him.

http://www.iupuijags.com/news/2008/6...626084746.aspx

[Marcus Bryant]

On to free agency.

[GSH]

I've been playing with Hill since we were 10 years old, AAU teams, High School, Hill has played in big tourneys against big compe ion for a long time.. not only did he play against tough division 1 / NBA players such as Courtney Lee, Greg Oden, Connely, and many Division 1/ NBA players.. He probably faced stiffer compe ion in AAU and High school in Indiana than in College, he put up 36.2 PPG against the stiffest compe ion high school basketball had to offer, he put up big numbers in the Adidas ABCD camp against Dwight Howard, and Josh Smith, he slashes, he can shoot lights out, he can elevate above the rim.. he plays like hes 6'6 + he will have one of the largest wing spans of an NBA point guard.. he is probably one of the greatest sleepers in the Draft.. and Greg P. knew what he was getting.. and he would not have been around late second round.. the pacers were going to pick him 41 if he lasted that long.. and he had many talks and return trips to Boston, he may have went 30 to Boston if he wasn't picked up.. hes got alot more athletic ability and talent than many of you know.

Yes, and his numbers went way the down in college. Against compe ion that you say was not as tough. Why would that happen?

CDR put up similar numbers to his college stats, while playing for Memphis. CDR defended against better players than Hill ever saw in college. And he IS 6'6", with a bigger wingspan. And, no, Boston wasn't going to pick him at 30 with CDR and Giddens on the board. Period. (I still think Giddens was the bargain of the draft, even if he did go higher than many people said he would.)

[Solid D]

Great take Solid D. Thanks for your contribution.

You're welcome...and it is complimentary to say he is Johnny Dawkins with a jumpshot. Johnny was a terrific player.

[SequSpur]

Yes, and his numbers went way the down in college. Against compe ion that you say was not as tough. Why would that happen?

CDR put up similar numbers to his college stats, while playing for Memphis. CDR defended against better players than Hill ever saw in college. And he IS 6'6", with a bigger wingspan. And, no, Boston wasn't going to pick him at 30 with CDR and Giddens on the board. Period. (I still think Giddens was the bargain of the draft, even if he did go higher than many people said he would.)

Memphis > Kansas with George Hill.

[SequSpur]

You're welcome...and it is complimentary to say he is Johnny Dawkins with a jumpshot. Johnny was a terrific player.

Exactly. I am glad you contributed that importance piece of information that we could use.

[jayc23]

Hill became MUCH more unselfish in college, even on ESPN, they said Hill had a tendency in College to be overly unselfish.. which him starting to mature into a much more unselfish well rounded player than the pure shock and aw slashing and 3 point barrage that he pulled off in High School.. if Hill had went back for his senior year he likely would have dropped 30+ a year.. he made a bad decision to commit to IUPUI when he was young, and was overly talented for such a school, He also busted his ass in his pre-draft tour to prove himself he was an NBA player not just a Mid-major wannabe, you should trust the experience of the NBA scouts and front office... you will not be disappointed with Hill

[SPURSGOAT]

I like this pick; the Spurs have needed a solid backup PG and I figured they would pick a backup PG with #26.

[T Park]

You're welcome...and it is complimentary to say he is Johnny Dawkins with a jumpshot. Johnny was a terrific player.

Solid if thats what you think of him, honestly I'm even more excited

[DMX7]

Because you read it on the internets?

Actually, I was at the Final Four watching Chalmers win a National Championship while George Hill was at home after losing the Summit Conference Championship against rec league caliber players.

[Mr. Peabody]

Hill became MUCH more unselfish in college, even on ESPN, they said Hill had a tendency in College to be overly unselfish.. which him starting to mature into a much more unselfish well rounded player than the pure shock and aw slashing and 3 point barrage that he pulled off in High School.. if Hill had went back for his senior year he likely would have dropped 30+ a year.. he made a bad decision to commit to IUPUI when he was young, and was overly talented for such a school, He also busted his ass in his pre-draft tour to prove himself he was an NBA player not just a Mid-major wannabe, you should trust the experience of the NBA scouts and front office... you will not be disappointed with Hill

Why should we do that when we can delude ourselves into thinking we know more than people who get paid to evaluate these players?

[T Park]

Why should we do that when we can delude ourselves into thinking we know more than people who get paid to evaluate these players?

[GSH]

Had they picked him and traded him you would've found a reason to about anything.

No one is EVER happy.

Sad really.

It's not about who they made happy or unhappy. They left clear-cut value on the board.

What if somebody like Courtney Lee or Speights had still been on the board? Would they have recognized that they could have gotten Hill PLUS other consideration by drafting one of them? Arthur was clearly a higher value player than Hill at that point. Would I have been happy if they had traded him for Hill? I don't know. But I would have understood it.