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I gave them a D. I felt there were a couple players with higher upside in the first round that they passed up.
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I never heard of the guy, so he must suck.
I gave them a D. I felt there were a couple players with higher upside in the first round that they passed up.
It's a valid point, but what that link should tell you is that Marty Burns couldn't find Hill in the draft guide, or that CNNSI didn't have his picture on file, so he gives it a zero grade. One could make an argument that you could be encouraged by the fact that Marty wasn't in favor of it. Sports Illustrated certainly wasn't having anyone over for workouts.I just think there were better players to fill the "need" position and the Spurs passed on some of them for what most people considered a reach. I'm sorry but when I see something like this with our first pick...
That tells me no one even thought this guy was going to be drafted, much less not available with either of our 2nd rounders. For all we know, we could have had both Hill AND Chalmers, that would have been a nice compe ion for Parker's backup job...dont you think?
The Spurs seemed to think someone was going to swoop in and take him, meaning there was some scuttlebutt about him among the teams, possibly based upon his performances at workouts and camps. There have been plenty of reports that there were other teams interested in him, and the Spurs might have gotten him earlier than they wanted to, but that doesn't really matter, particularly since they got another second rounder back. Again, it counts against them that they couldn't trade down to get something extra, but they did get the guy they wanted and simply failed to generate anything extra out of it. When you come out the other side with who you wanted all along that's far from a wasted pick.
It's more likely the Spurs were misreading league interest for Hill at that spot. Regardless, they could easily have gotten Hill a bit later if they only selected Arthur and dealt him off.
There seems to be a lot of evidence that they jumped too soon to get him, but there was some interest, certainly more than zero, which SI seemed to imply. There were reports of his stock rising and rumors of at least one other team aside from the Spurs looking at him in the first round. Whether or not that's the case, we'll never know, but the Spurs didn't end up losing the guy because they were trying too hard to keep from stretching, and in a year where they need young players to come in and contribute, that's the most important thing. They'd tried and failed to trade down earlier, and we'd be roasting them if they'd traded down and lost both guys at the top of their board.
If the Spurs were sure this was who they wanted, and if he's going to make the team better, I don't see how it matters too much where he was picked. Proclaiming a pick a success or failure based upon media projections is a little odd, considering that the Spurs worked the guy out.
If he sucks, on the other hand...
A- IMO, Hill, as a backup PG, is, without playing a single second in the NBA, already better than Damon or Jacque. It all depends on how he meshes with the rest of the team. Pop seems to think that all their picks will mesh well,so I defer to the professionals.
How many here thought TP or Manu would be good for the Spurs at first? FO sees something that we don't, and I, for one, trust their judgement in these matters.
I would give them a P....for PRITCH-SLAPPED!
A- IMO, Hill, as a backup PG, is, without playing a single second in the NBA, already better than Damon or Jacque. It all depends on how he meshes with the rest of the team. Pop seems to think that all their picks will mesh well,so I defer to the professionals.
How many here thought TP or Manu would be good for the Spurs at first? FO sees something that we don't, and I, for one, trust their judgement in these matters.
I don't trust their judgement at all. They have made enough bad decisions regarding players in the last few years to at least question their decisions.
Rascal and Mr Body don't like it.
SHOCKER!!
nuts.
Its not that I don't like it but they may have passed on players with higher upside potential. They should have worked out a deal for a lower 2nd round pick and target Hill there.
Hill could be a good backup pg. Is that all you want from the draft? I'd rather see them take the chance with a more riskier player with higher upside potential.
At 26 it's difficult to expect more. Gist is the upside player. Hairston is a throw-inIs that all you want from the draft?
Gist is the upside long 3 tweener 4.
if the stars align, that er could be defending David West and others next year.
Gist has alot alot of great potential.
I don't expect anything from Gist next season except replacing Ian's dunks for the Toros, but it will be interesting to see how he is developed -- if he makes the team.
Personally, to me, hes a potential missing fixer piece.
That tweener forward whos defensive minded and moves great.
Can't help but get excited over him.
Don't get me wrong, Gist was one of the guys I wanted with that last pick. I just think he has a lot of work ahead of him.
Gave the Spurs a C....
Middle of the road picks with limited upside and serious questions.
Can Hill develop into a reliable PG?
If so, he's a career backup. If not, he's an undersized shooter that has to be lights out to stick in this league (re: Eddie House).
Is Malik Hairston going to put his skill/size to use?
If so, he's a bench player in the Bonzi Wells mold. If not, he's a fringe NBA player on 10-day contracts for a few years and then European/D-League fodder.
Is James Gist a basketball player?
If so, he'll still be an undersized PF but has the athleticism to make it in the league. If not, he'll be in Europe.
Bottom Line: I know no perfect players exist where the Spurs drafted, but all players drafted have big questions to answer and have limited upside even if they answer those questions with a "yes".
Bleh....
Incomplete because they haven't played a second in the nba so its a wait and see thing
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