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    The Express News chimes in...

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...y.3feaa55.html

    Horry wanting to return, hopes it's with the Spurs

    Spurs forward Robert Horry reiterated Friday that he would like to play another NBA season, preferably for the Spurs.

    Horry, who told the Express-News last week that he believed he had one more season left in him even though he will turn 38 in August, gave an interview to a Houston TV station in which he said his disappointing 2007-08 season was not the way he wants his career to end.

    “I don't want to retire, especially after a year like I had last year,” Horry told KRIV-TV. “I know I could have had a better year. The year started off crazy for me with family issues and then it ended crazy for me getting hurt right at the end of the season.”

    Horry will become a free agent on July 1. The Spurs have made no commitment to any of their free agents: Horry, guard Michael Finley or forward Kurt Thomas.

    Horry had told the Express-News that if he returned for a 17th season, he preferred that it be with the Spurs, but said there were “two or three” other teams for which he would consider playing. KRIV-TV reported that Horry said he would prefer to play in Houston if the Spurs opted not to sign him. He played his first four seasons for the Rockets and maintains a home in Houston.

    The defending champion Spurs lost in the Western Conference finals to the Los Angeles Lakers in five games. Horry averaged 2.5 points a game last season, 1.5 during the playoffs.

    During the playoffs, Horry passed Kareem Abdul-Jabbar for the most playoff appearances in NBA history. Horry finished this season with 244 playoff game appearances; Abdul-Jabbar had 237. Horry has been in the playoffs in every one of his NBA seasons.

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    Its good if he accepts minimum veteran salary at teh lowest...currently he get paid more than $3 million a year and he suck balls all playoffs long. If he get the lowest veteran salary than yes, if he wants good money then Horry!!
    We need the money to sign real impact player..we need it to beat Celtics

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    We already have a roster stacked with playoff-savvy, battle-tested veterans who can serve as a veteran presence for the young guys. We don't need another one, who is a liability on the court. We need good basketball players, not good youth counselors.
    Tim, Tony, and Manu are all leaders by example, but none are very vocal about taking the reigns of the team. Only in recent years have you even seen Tim pull the team together or be the guy talking in the huddle. For whatever reason, it's a role that none of them really seems to wants to accept, and that's when they defer to Pop.

    Horry is one of the few players who is willing to call someone out, who is willing to hold people accountable, and who is willing to put his experience to work. The only other person who comes close is Brent Barry, but you can't compare Barry's experience to Horry's. And Finley was always too busy trying to straighten out his own head to help out anybody else.

    For a team that lacks a serious vocal presence and is bringing in a mix of young or new players, it seems foolish to send away one of your best locker room leaders if he's willing to come back for the minimum. Especially if that guy is one of the most decorated players to have ever been in the league.

    Rob's not even playing hardball about it. He's pretty much said he wants to come back here, and it sounds like the ball is in the Spurs' court.

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    Unreal the amount of BS I'm seeing in this thread.

    Unreal.

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    Basketball is a business. Sentiment should NEVER drive business decisions. For those who are clamoring for Robert to return, I ask again, "what were you watching last season?" It should be painfully obvious that Horry is done. He's through. It's unfortunate that a lot of times, the athlete is the LAST one to know that he can't do it anymore. He only finds out when the phone doesn't ring.

    How is this team ever supposed to get younger and more athletic if it keeps getting old?
    As has been stated earlier, we have enough playoff-savvy veterans on this team to make up for the loss of Horry. If Bonner can't pick up the slack, then he needs to go too. Get someone else in here that can spread the floor.

    No way would I take a spot away from a younger, developing talent like Gist and give away to a guy who is such a liability. If Pop does, then he's a damn fool and a hypocrite. Turn the page already.

    I know Robert's pride is hurt and he's having trouble rationalizing the fact that his career is winding down. However, that's not the Spurs problem. If he wants to play, fine. He just can't play here.

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    i say trade his ass to rockets for MOUNT MUTOMBO

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    Horry is one of the few players who is willing to call someone out, who is willing to hold people accountable, and who is willing to put his experience to work.
    Horry should've called himself out for being in absent, in such horrible shape and injured. Horry did not show the type of dedication last season that we've come to expect from him. There's no way to rationalize it. There's no kind way to put it. He should save his dignity and simply retire.

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    Tim, Tony, and Manu are all leaders by example, but none are very vocal about taking the reigns of the team. Only in recent years have you even seen Tim pull the team together or be the guy talking in the huddle. For whatever reason, it's a role that none of them really seems to wants to accept, and that's when they defer to Pop.

    Horry is one of the few players who is willing to call someone out, who is willing to hold people accountable, and who is willing to put his experience to work. The only other person who comes close is Brent Barry, but you can't compare Barry's experience to Horry's. And Finley was always too busy trying to straighten out his own head to help out anybody else.

    For a team that lacks a serious vocal presence and is bringing in a mix of young or new players, it seems foolish to send away one of your best locker room leaders if he's willing to come back for the minimum. Especially if that guy is one of the most decorated players to have ever been in the league.

    Rob's not even playing hardball about it. He's pretty much said he wants to come back here, and it sounds like the ball is in the Spurs' court.


    Your not going to find a better big to come in and play spot-minutes for the veteran minimum. Maybe he's not the player he once was, but he's more than capable of helping to contribute on and off the court for a championship contender.

    I'm not wiiling to throw him under the bus, like alot of you seem more than willing to do. I'm more inclined to believe last years performance had more to do with family issues, injuries, and never being able to get in a groove.

    Having said that... If the Spurs aren't going to play Bonner, they've got to find a way to move him and open up another roster spot. That way Rob takes Bonner's spot while leaving an opening for Gist, or dare I say... McGuire???

    It would be ideal for Ian and maybe even Gist to have a guy like Rob to learn from. Having these guys hang around Rob for a year could really help with their maturation process. Rob has one the highest BBIQ's this team has ever had, and if some of that can rub off on these young fellas... We should be so lucky.

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    Horry should've called himself out for being in absent, in such horrible shape and injured. Horry did not show the type of dedication last season that we've come to expect from him. There's no way to rationalize it. There's no kind way to put it. He should save his dignity and simply retire.
    Yeah he shouldn't have attended to his family at the beginning of the year.

    God, glass houses man chill the out.

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    Hopefully Horry comes back, then we advance to the second round at least

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    If we win in '09 and Horry is resigned and has a good playoff run is their any chance we'll retire his jersey? The assumption seems to be that Houston will have that honor but I just wanted to see if anybody thought it could happen. Personally, I want to be at the at&t when they hoist #25.

    Dex, TPark: keep fighting the good fight.

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    Basketball is a business. Sentiment should NEVER drive business decisions. For those who are clamoring for Robert to return, I ask again, "what were you watching last season?" It should be painfully obvious that Horry is done. He's through. It's unfortunate that a lot of times, the athlete is the LAST one to know that he can't do it anymore. He only finds out when the phone doesn't ring.

    How is this team ever supposed to get younger and more athletic if it keeps getting old?
    As has been stated earlier, we have enough playoff-savvy veterans on this team to make up for the loss of Horry. If Bonner can't pick up the slack, then he needs to go too. Get someone else in here that can spread the floor.

    No way would I take a spot away from a younger, developing talent like Gist and give away to a guy who is such a liability. If Pop does, then he's a damn fool and a hypocrite. Turn the page already.

    I know Robert's pride is hurt and he's having trouble rationalizing the fact that his career is winding down. However, that's not the Spurs problem. If he wants to play, fine. He just can't play here.
    Well put...unfortunately some people around here just arent going to get it. They are on the Horry short bus and are unwilling to get off it even though it isnt moving.

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    If he will take the mimimum where there is little SC impact and there is a roster spot available.

    If he is healthy (he wasn't last year) he could be useful.

    If younger options open up this summer, it may be time to move on.

    I really wonder if Horry and Finley can be brought back or if only one is going to make sense.

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    for the vet min, why not?

    but it's not beyond the FO to do a sign and trade, right?

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    Everyone knows that Horry doesn't bother to play up to par during the regular season. He just doesn't.

    What would it have meant to the Spurs to win that one extra regular season game or two to have home court advantage during the playoffs?

    It would have meant Denver and Utah instead of Phoenix and N.O.

    If you don't start transitioning to younger players now--and getting them into the Spurs system--then when do you do it? After Tim and the rest of our great starters are older? Our championship window for the Big Three isn't going to be there forever so we can't keep Horry on for sentiment.

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    Yeah he shouldn't have attended to his family at the beginning of the year.

    God, glass houses man chill the out.
    The family issues were unavoidable - as were his diminished production and declining skills. How 'bout you taking off your rose-colored blinders?

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    Everyone knows that Horry doesn't bother to play up to par during the regular season. He just doesn't.

    What would it have meant to the Spurs to win that one extra regular season game or two to have home court advantage during the playoffs?

    It would have meant Denver and Utah instead of Phoenix and N.O.

    If you don't start transitioning to younger players now--and getting them into the Spurs system--then when do you do it? After Tim and the rest of our great starters are older? Our championship window for the Big Three isn't going to be there forever so we can't keep Horry on for sentiment.
    Horry is looking more and more like the typical ego-driven athlete that doesn't realize that it's time to hang it up. He should've retired after the '07 le. It's time for Pop and the entire organization to move on. We need more from our backup 4 in the regular season.

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    ]Everyone knows that Horry doesn't bother to play up to par during the regular season. He just doesn't.[/B]

    What would it have meant to the Spurs to win that one extra regular season game or two to have home court advantage during the playoffs?

    It would have meant Denver and Utah instead of Phoenix and N.O.

    If you don't start transitioning to younger players now--and getting them into the Spurs system--then when do you do it? After Tim and the rest of our great starters are older? Our championship window for the Big Three isn't going to be there forever so we can't keep Horry on for sentiment.
    Couldn't agree more. And this is the example that many of you want to have displayed from one of the team's so-called vocal leaders?

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    If he will take the mimimum where there is little SC impact and there is a roster spot available.

    If he is healthy (he wasn't last year) he could be useful.

    If younger options open up this summer, it may be time to move on.

    I really wonder if Horry and Finley can be brought back or if only one is going to make sense.
    IMO, neither option makes sense. Anyone who paid attention to how this team played and saw the flaws that were exposed and the components that it lacked (perimeter athleticism, lack of offense, lack of bench production)would understands why neither option makes sense.
    Last edited by SenorSpur; 06-28-2008 at 08:42 AM.

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    People who think Horry isn't worth a roster spot are off their rocker.

    Not a single team in the NBA plays 15-deep. Even if the guy is too old to contribute like he used to on the court, you are not going to find any better example of a playoff-savvy, battle-tested veteran than Robert ing Horry. Especially considering the fact that we are trying to inject some youth into this team, you need veteran presence to put them in the right direction.

    Spurs played magical chairs with their 15th spot last season, and you're saying we don't have room for Big Shot?

    And I've said this once already, but if you've won seven NBA championships, you deserve a chance to redeem yourself after a bad season.
    thats exactly where horry belongs........on a rocker, in another teams uniform..

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    Whatever Horry decides to do, I'm behind him 100%.

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    I wouldn't mind Horry coming back for the min. but I would have a problem if he were to take signiciant minutes away from Ian or another younger budding player who needs the minutes to develop - who ever that may be.

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    Horry > Bonner


    If we can't get any FA, then resign Horry.

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    I don't want to see Horry on the roster instead of Gist unless Gist looks totally lost in the summer league.

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    Let him go to Houston. He's got nothing left. He should retire.

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