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Yeah thats realistic.get rid of fudkn bonner/vaughn + TE and get 6th man in return or a calibre starter...
Javtokas should be given another look imo...NBA MINIMUM OR LLE.
get rid of fudkn bonner/vaughn + TE and get 6th man in return or a calibre starter...
Even if we head for the youth dept plan, we will still be in the playoffs as long we still have the big 3.
Yeah thats realistic.get rid of fudkn bonner/vaughn + TE and get 6th man in return or a calibre starter...
What the is wrong with you people that don't want Barry back...
Did you guys, or did you not see the way Barry played against LA?
Do you know how ing hard it is to find a guard who acutally plays better against LA than he does anyone else? It's next to impossible.
That just might have been the best performance by a Spurs guard against a Phil Jackson Laker Team ever...
Even non-chokers choke against LA...and Barry doesn't...you don't just toss that kind of playing away.
And Barry can be wheeled out there to hit 3's for another couple of years. Honestly, Barry moves good. He can't dunk like he used too...but he can still move.
You definitely bring him back in the Steve Kerr role.
I say Horry too...
WTF? Kurt Thomas? It wasn't like he didn't suck after the Phoenix series...and Shaq is freaking old now.
The Suns are done and you don't keep players on the roster just to match up with them at this stage.
This dude didn't play any better against LA than the Horry did...
Bring Thomas back
go sign a wing, a big with the LLE
call it a summer
They combine for nearly the MLE anyway....if we could get someone than nice..
should try and pull a trade with GSW, since they need a big and a backup PG for monte elis..thats if baron davis test the market....
Spend the MLE on someone either
ps. it be cool if we can trade for JAX hahahahaha
If Vaughn is so horrible why would the Warriors want him?
Not realistic one bit.
imo we should try and go back to the trade table with the bulls, like what we offered them last season.....
we can provide them cap relief imo....they were interested in barry and finley is from chicago anyway...package that with fukn bonner and TE + picks for duhorn + thabo + noah...gives them the flexibility to resign gordan and deng...nocioni will not be included his is expiring contract this season..dont think the bulls are going to resign him end of season....if they play there cards right they could also be in the 2010 sweepstakes
Screw you and your "logic."
Next thing you're going to tell me is the Clippers aren't going to trade Brand for Bonner, Thomas, and Vaughn.
Gist is not on the roster, and probably wont be, they have different games, and Balkman is worlds better.
I mentioned Bonner to Golden State earlier...it makes some sense. A sign and trade would be sweet. Especially for someone like Azubuike, preserving the MLE for another player. If we could trade Bonner for Azubuike and spend the MLE on James Jones, to supply the spacing Bonner never could, I'd do back flips in the front yard.
That about sums it up for me. Whether it's JR Smith, Ron Artest, Mickael Pietrus, Kelenna Azubuike, or someone I'm forgetting....pick them up and call it a day.
I also wouldn't mind if the Spurs flipped Bonner for one of the guards mentioned above in a sign-and-trade, then picked up a guy like Najera or Hermann to replace him using the MLE (i.e. Pietrus for Bonner, cash to cover, and future pick).
We have no chance on landing JR Smith.... Denver is going to match the MLE...
Artest would be good, but I imagine quite a few teams will be going after Artest.
I seriously see the Spurs getting Pietrus with part of the MLE. We have the French connection, he would fit in perfectly with the Spurs, and he should not take the full MLE to land.
I feel with the rookies...you just bring back Thomas....sign Pietrus...and keep Barry for every reason WHOTT listed.
PG-Parker/Hill/Vaughn
SG-Pietrus/Ginobili/Harriston
SF-Bowen/Udoka/Gist
PF-Duncan/Mahinmi/Bonner
C-Thomas/Oberto
Just to clarify, this is the 15-man roster that I think should be considered going into next season.
Roster
PG: Parker, Hill, Vaughn
SG: MLE FA, Ginobili, Barry, Hairston
SF: Bowen, Udoka, Gist
PF: Duncan, Oberto, Bonner
C: Mahinmi, Thomas
Even though I like Vaughn as a third string point guard, does anyone else think the Spurs could let him go? In the playoffs, the combination of Manu and Barry proved capable to handle the point guard position. If you give Vaughn's job to Barry, then there is extra roster room for a big.
PG: Parker, Hill, Barry
SG: MLE FA, Ginobili, Hairston
SF: Bowen, Udoka, Gist
PF: Duncan, Bonner, LLE FA
C: Mahinmi, Thomas, Oberto
I don't think Vaughn's contract would be too much to buy out -- in fact I think the NBA pays part of it since he signed for the vet minimum. Perhaps the Spurs could even convince him to walk away from his player option and tell him if he can't find a job anywhere else in the NBA, the Spurs agree to bring him back as an assistant coach.
Obviously the Spurs shouldn't bend over backwards to keep the two second rounders on their roster but having two young athletes who are eligible for D-League action is a good way to rejuvenate the pipeline.
timvp, in an article yesterday, McDonald hinted that the Spurs will try to get Javtokas over here. What are your thoughts on that?
Javtokas could be a candidate for the LLE big. Four rookies on the team would be a lot ... but I guess if the team wants to get younger, you gotta start somewhere.
I'm guessing McDonald didn't know anything specific regarding Javtokas. Just threw his name out there.
One of Horry or Finley will be back, IMO.
Javtokas is not coming, IMO. My guess is there's bad blood there, or at least no interst from RJ.
Roger Mason might be someone to look at with this roster. Can back up and play off Parker. Isn't quite the fourth scorer we're looking for though.
What if Hill sucks or somebody gets injured? Vaughn isn't amazing, but he's at least good insurance.
timvp, in another thread you talked about a choice having to be made between gist and horry. do you think they will go with gist, or is that what you want them to do?
I also think that the Spurs should use their entire MLE to get a young wing player. I somehow doubt that they will be able to steal J.R. Smith but he would be ideal.
The only player who I can't really figure out is Mahinmi. I have seen him play a little in the summer league but I don't know if he will have an impact right away. Thats why I think it is important to resign Thomas as an insurance. With Oberto, Thomas, Duncan and Bonner you have a solid rotation up front. I really hope Mahinmi works out. I also would not mind bringing Horry back for the minimum. Here is what I hope will be the Spurs roster next season.
Parker/Hill/ Vaughn
J.R. Smith/ Ginobili/ Barry
Bowen/Udoka/ Gist
Duncan/ Bonner/ Horry
Oberto/ Mahinmi/ Thomas
The Spurs would not be old anymore. The only really "old" rotation player would be Bowen.
I hope it works out that way. That said, I would love to have Artest at the 3 but he probably won't opt out. Even if he does the Spurs chances of getting him are slim at best.
timVP, yes I am one who thinks the extra roster spot is valuable enough to justify buying out Vaughn. In my estimation, it's also worth moving Bonner for distant 2nd round scraps or midlevel money, although that seems unlikely. I'd be in favor or losing either player or both for the added roster space.
My main reason for this is the need for a rejuvenated pipeline, as you mention. I just posted elsewhere, but assuming Hill and Hairston, the Spurs will not be able to do much next off season. I'd rather they add the young players now, give them a year in the system--for me this doesn't necessarily include Gist--so they can play next year. This also means I reluctently vote against Horry.
gist and horry are not the only options.
benson just mini-camped with the Spurs, Foyle is available at the LLE and Javtokas' name was just dragged into the street by EN. There are probably others, including the outside possibility of someone elses summer leaguer. I think the Spurs should be patient thinking this through.
We just drafted George Hill. Mason is not in the plans.
Brent Barry is what.
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