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    This guy would be awesome on our team. Does anyone have any news about him? Is he under contract with another team? If he isnt we should go after him, maybe offer him the LLE or something.

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    Here's a couple of links showing this guy in action. If we were to sign this guy and a james jones or J.R. Smith, and go after a free agent big as well, maybe just sign Thomas again or go after the free agent Jorge Garbajosa (just cut ties with Toronto), you could pretty much hand over the 2009 trophy to us!!

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    First off, to land him you'd likely have to use the full MLE. He's making a lot of money in Russia and CSKA will no doubt offer him a boatload of money to return. Likely even more than what the MLE is worth.

    I think he should be in the Spurs' free agent equation. I'm not sold on him enough to say he should be the number one option but from what I've seen, he should make it in the NBA. Very good shooter, good passer, active defender and basically just a winner. He just won back-to-back Euroleague championships with two different teams.

    When I've watched him play, his lack of jumping ability is blatant. He can't jump at all. Perhaps he can overcome that with everything else he does well ... but it's not a guarantee. He'd definitely be a below average NBA athlete and probably an average at best defender.

    He's 30 years old so he's a pretty good age to step in and perform right away. His ability to shoot the ball is really tempting as is the fact that he probably has one of the highest basketball IQ's in the world. But athletically, we're talking about a guy who is less athletic than Michael Finley or Brent Barry right now.

    If the other options fall through, going after Siskauskas with a three-year team option contract worth the MLE could make sense.

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    i agree completely,but i would actually be more willing to give him the full mle than say a J.R. Smith or something. I think this guy is a winner and could really step in and help us right away. i also read in a past article about him that the spurs and the rockets were really looking at this guy in may. i think it actually was in one of the forums on this site. that's really why i started this thread to see if anyone has heard anything else about him. Maybe it was just a rumor but if i was on the spurs' staff i would at the very least keep him as an option.

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    didnt look to bad, but that was against unNBA teams...looks like can shoot, but can he shoot under pressure,(nba pressure)?...threads with videos are much better then those with words........go spurs go

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    Craziest widow's peak I've ever seen.

    Slowest crossover dribble I've ever seen (26 sec in).

    Those two things aside, he seems like a great shooter and looks like he plays with a tenacity/energy that could be very good for this ballclub. If the Spurs are looking for depth and not the homerun hitter (JR Smith), I think Siskausas could be a legitimate option.

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    why sign this guy when we have brent barry?

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    Siskauskas salary last year was €2M. I guess that, after his good season and if CSKA fear to lose him, they can raise his salary to €2.5M or even €3M.
    Spurs need to offer him bout the full MLE, if they want him and if he isn't ready to take a pay cut.

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    First off, to land him you'd likely have to use the full MLE. He's making a lot of money in Russia and CSKA will no doubt offer him a boatload of money to return. Likely even more than what the MLE is worth.

    I think he should be in the Spurs' free agent equation. I'm not sold on him enough to say he should be the number one option but from what I've seen, he should make it in the NBA. Very good shooter, good passer, active defender and basically just a winner. He just won back-to-back Euroleague championships with two different teams.

    When I've watched him play, his lack of jumping ability is blatant. He can't jump at all. Perhaps he can overcome that with everything else he does well ... but it's not a guarantee. He'd definitely be a below average NBA athlete and probably an average at best defender.

    He's 30 years old so he's a pretty good age to step in and perform right away. His ability to shoot the ball is really tempting as is the fact that he probably has one of the highest basketball IQ's in the world. But athletically, we're talking about a guy who is less athletic than Michael Finley or Brent Barry right now.

    If the other options fall through, going after Siskauskas with a three-year team option contract worth the MLE could make sense.
    I am not sure about jumping thing be correct. For 6-6 player his dunk ability is same as average 6-6 guard in NBA. Even some times he will thrown down huge dunk over defender. For athlete issue for him is speed and quickness and lateral quickness. His ability to jump is actual quite good. I think many time American fan get confuse about difference in how European player is taught to play.

    French, American, Argentina player is taught try dunk everything and this why they get many injury. Europe player is taught not dunk everything and they not get injure so much but ones who do try dunk so much do get injury. Even Scola is change his way to this from how he taught in Argentina. Siska is not fast or quick for NBA but he can jump.
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    i agree completely,but i would actually be more willing to give him the full mle than say a J.R. Smith or something. I think this guy is a winner and could really step in and help us right away. i also read in a past article about him that the spurs and the rockets were really looking at this guy in may. i think it actually was in one of the forums on this site. that's really why i started this thread to see if anyone has heard anything else about him. Maybe it was just a rumor but if i was on the spurs' staff i would at the very least keep him as an option.
    Is not rumor. Well know that Rockets and Spurs have made full MLE offer for 3 years to him. But so far this is not enough money for him. Is about half what he make in Europe. Maybe I take guess if Spurs offers MLE with all raise for 5 years then maybe he change his mind. But problem is Spurs will not offer 5 year contract I think to 30 years old player.

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    didnt look to bad, but that was against unNBA teams...looks like can shoot, but can he shoot under pressure,(nba pressure)?...threads with videos are much better then those with words........go spurs go
    You have understand about him. He is not NBA style player he is Europe style player. I am not sure if he can make it good in NBA because he is slow and game is slow for him. But shoot under pressure is greatest strength he have. He is best one on one player maybe we have seen in many years in Europe.

    Against Team US he has in many game score one on one against US players easy. He is very very outstanding one on one player with shooting and scoring. Big issue with him for NBA is game speed. He do not play game at NBA speed.

    He is not so much good fit with Parker and Manu but he would be very good fit with Duncan and Popovich. Basketball IQ is similar to Horry.
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    why sign this guy when we have brent barry?
    He is similar to old age Barry not young one who was so dynamic. But in basketball IQ he is much much better. In one on one he is much much better. I think even he have much better range on shot. But in speed and quickness even old Barry play game faster.

    Still if allow Siska play one on one even in NBA he will school defenders I think. So he is different kind of player maybe than Spurs is used to. He is not open court player like Parker and Manu. Actual Siska is very much same type mental and style player as Duncan but in wing player. And remember Duncan is just ok athlete by NBA level.

    I think big thing for Siska is can he make it in faster game? I know he can make it in one on one half court in offense. In other parts of game I am not sure if he can handle NBA.
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    Siskauskas salary last year was €2M. I guess that, after his good season and if CSKA fear to lose him, they can raise his salary to €2.5M or even €3M.
    Spurs need to offer him bout the full MLE, if they want him and if he isn't ready to take a pay cut.
    He make 2.5 and they pay 1.0 to PAO. So they think nothing of 3.5 already. Papaloukas just get 2.7 for 3 years from Olympiacos and he make 3.5 in CSKA. Saras is be offer 2.5 for 3 years from Barcelona. He make 3.5 in PAO. So since Siska is MVP and win last two le with two different team he can maybe get 3.5 with CSKA I say if Spurs makes offer.

    Navarro get 3.2 per year and Siska is consider better then him by most Europe teams. Not sure if that same for NBA teams.

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    Is his lateral quickness completely substandard, or does he just play at "wily veteran" half speed? In the clips I've seen, he makes fairly athletic plays, some dunks and nice weak-side blocks. He also has an ample bag of tricks on offense that would make him extremely valuable in a half-court setting. If it's true that the Spurs and Rockets have floated that MLE offer over three years, it's clearly not a concern to them. But 5 years is too much.

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    Is his lateral quickness completely substandard, or does he just play at "wily veteran" half speed? In the clips I've seen, he makes fairly athletic plays, some dunks and nice weak-side blocks. He also has an ample bag of tricks on offense that would make him extremely valuable in a half-court setting. If it's true that the Spurs and Rockets have floated that MLE offer over three years, it's clearly not a concern to them. But 5 years is too much.
    Is hard to explain. He is actual not bad in athlete ability at all. He just play game slow. Like I try explain somehow like Horry and Duncan would play game slow and I know now is much because of age but even when younger would still play game kind of slow. He is very high IQ player and sort of just play this way.

    But I think at his age and so many years in Europe style game. I believe in slow half court team in offense like Spurs he can do very well. In slow half court defense he will fight and battle. But he is Euro style player and this is not ever to change.

    I say he is like Scola he can play in NBA but he will need team that allow him play his style. He is nothing like foreign players Spurs have like Parker and Manu. He will need right team or he will fail. Spurs and Rockets is perfect teams for him because they is so slow and half court teams. In many other teams he will probable fail but in those teams perfect fit.

    He is not like some Europe players now like Fernandez and Spanoulis that is play game at a much faster speed like NBA. He play game slow even for Europe very much like Diamantidis do.

    Is hard to know how these players will do in NBA. Diamantidis was horrible against Spurs and Rockets and he is only OK player against Team US. But Diamantidis have 40 inch vertical and 6-11 wingspan even for NBA he is freak. You see what I mean? Is not so much "athlete ability" just they play game so slow.

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    Pass, dude is old, slow and unathletic, we already have that now!

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    He is similar to old age Barry not young one who was so dynamic. But in basketball IQ he is much much better. In one on one he is much much better. I think even he have much better range on shot. But in speed and quickness even old Barry play game faster.

    Still if allow Siska play one on one even in NBA he will school defenders I think. So he is different kind of player maybe than Spurs is used to. He is not open court player like Parker and Manu. Actual Siska is very much same type mental and style player as Duncan but in wing player. And remember Duncan is just ok athlete by NBA level.

    I think big thing for Siska is can he make it in faster game? I know he can make it in one on one half court in offense. In other parts of game I am not sure if he can handle NBA.
    Sorry, but Barry's basketball IQ is better then Siska's.......afterall, Barry grew up with the NBA players...His dad, West, Chamberlain, Robertson, Jabbar, Frazier, etc.....Barry has seen, talked with, and learned from the best, his entire life. I will take his Bball IQ anyday over some euro who is 6-7 years younger.

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    Sorry, but Barry's basketball IQ is better then Siska's.......afterall, Barry grew up with the NBA players...His dad, West, Chamberlain, Robertson, Jabbar, Frazier, etc.....Barry has seen, talked with, and learned from the best, his entire life. I will take his Bball IQ anyday over some euro who is 6-7 years younger.
    Siska b-ball IQ is at very top few of any players in world. Young Barry is certain more talent and athletic than Siska, but IQ for game I take Siska as better.

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    Siska b-ball IQ is at very top few of any players in world. Young Barry is certain more talent and athletic than Siska, but IQ for game I take Siska as better.
    Dude put down the pipe!! Barry is tops in BBall IQ period!! Don't come in here telling us that some soft ass euro who never played a lick of fast paced NBA style ball has a better understanding of it than Barry. So if Barry were to play in that slow ass euro league he would make everyone in that league look stupid!

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    Dude put down the pipe!! Barry is tops in BBall IQ period!! Don't come in here telling us that some soft ass euro who never played a lick of fast paced NBA style ball has a better understanding of it than Barry. So if Barry were to play in that slow ass euro league he would make everyone in that league look stupid!
    Barry is one of highest IQ players but I would say Sisksa is higher. Maybe some other Spurs fans also from Europe can give opinion.

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