You can add Pintezis who was damn happy to be drafted by Spurs and disappointed to have been traded to Toronto.
Printezis say in Greece he rather be with Raptors. He maybe think is easier make Raptors.
Maybe Spurs can offer Siska 5 years contract at MLE with all raises? Maybe this he will consider? Understand PAO fans know him well. He is money chaser. He leave PAO just like over night for money. Remember he just dump team and contract like nothing because he gets money offer. He is player who go after big contract.
No, you said that they wouldn't join the Spurs because of Beno and Scola.
You said Europe. If it is different for French players, saying Europe is very stupid of you.When I say Scola from Europe? I mean player he is Euroleague player. You not understand this? Beside Argentina player is same as French ones all about NBA. Is different for Balkan players and Lithuania players and them.
You not realize French players is develop different than Lithuania ones?
You not realize France is in Europe?
jay williams
you do know those ots you have mention during this pass season doesnt mean to the spurs right? with or without them the spurs won championships in the pass.
and you can taste spanous scrotum all you like, if he cant handle under JVG, whats makes you think he can handle POPs ranting and expectations....All of them euro/rookie players coming to the spurs will go through that 2yr jax system, you will not get minutes until you learn the system....
I cant wait to see what vaughn can do since he has 1yr under his belt with the spurs.....i dont expect a hugh improvement, we just want efficiency from him.
The days of bringing in great/good overseas players for peanuts are over. The Euro leagues now can pay more than the NBA to keep their stars.
Regarding the glory and prestige of the NBA over the Euro leagues, let's not be so chauvinistic. Have we forgotten the origin of the Spurs and their players like Gervin Silas and Keenon who chose the ABA?
The NBA was forced to merge with the much disparaged ABA because of money which drew a lot of superstars, great and good players to the 'minor' league.
vaughn played for the spurs the last two years. are you talking of a different vaughn?
Back to the subject of Javtokas...you are probably right he can make more money in Europe right now. However, the NBA is the premier basketball league and only foreign players with a tough heart can make it in the US. Sometimes even when they have the talent (like that greek PG) they dont have the guts to tough it out here and go home with their tail between their legs. Other players who maybe arent the best at their position but have lots of heart (ie Oberto) tough it out and can actually make an impact playing in the NBA. I think Javtokas might be the type of player that does want to try to play here and may be willing to take a pay cut for the opportunity to play in the premier basketball league. Somebody in the front office needs to ask him about this.
If he do come with Spurs and get play time he will have many ESPN highlights in Sportscenter maybe this is thing he crave? Such player will get much press and ref calls because Stern loves player with highlight dunks.
Someone needs to tell him it's a lot cheaper to live in the U.S (San Antonio) than in Europe these days. The cost of living in Europe is off the charts today! One has to take that into consideration when talking money.
Big teams there like he play in rich club Dynamo pay all bills and expense and for house and for cars even insurance and everything.
I chatted with a bartender friend of mine, who happens to be from Lithuania, and he told me that Javtokas is currently playing in Russia. While he was unaware that the Spurs had drafted him a few years ago, he did confirm to me that Javtokas is making big dollars in Russia and likely would not want to take less money to come to America.
Thats too bad, cause I would love to see him in a Spurs uniform for the next 3-5 years.
Sounds to me like Dynamo took all those things into salary considerations when signing their players. If they were to subtract all the perks from the equation how would that equate to true salary earned?
Last edited by Rescueone; 06-29-2008 at 11:53 AM. Reason: miss spell
Player of big clubs gets report salary. This is number in press or website. Is also tax free. In addition to this amounts players get free car, free house, bills and expense paid, all tax free also and is not even count in income number.
I do not know what this number for expense is for Dynamo but for PAO is 200k euro net for each player per season. And Moscow is much more expensive then Athens to live. In fact Moscow is most expensive city in world so I guess figure is higher then PAO one.
Wow, thanks for that info. I still think he would be living just fine in San Antonio where the cost of living is way, way lower than in Europe.
I don't think SPURS can afford to sign him (ie He will be insulted again)
In all those highlight vids--and remember those ARE highlight vids--they only establish that he has some athleticism and has one reliable shot--the dunk. I don't know of any player in the NBA who is able to get away with that limited repertoire.
He might just be a taller version of JAMES WHITE!
he has 3pt range in Europe. He has a solid jumpshot and hook in the lane. He can run the floor and knows how to finish around the basket. From what I saw of him a few years ago, he was a mediocre FT shooter, so that would fit nicely with the Spurs. Defensively, he blocks shots very well. I do not know how good his man D is, since they play a lot of zone in Europe. From what I saw of him, he was a better offensive rebounder than defensive rebounder, which I can live with....
Javtokas isn't a scorer.
He is what he is, a defensive toughguy who rebounds and blocks shots. His offense is finishing with dunks. Thats nothing to sneeze at. His other offense is primitive hook shots and post moves and he is a terrible free throw shooter, that will never change.
Looking back at summer 06 he was the best option at the time. Elson and Butler were failures, especially Butler. Elson could only run around, he was never an effective rebounder, wasn't a shotblocker, and other than too infrequent break baskets and long jumpers wasn't very useful. Butler was just a tall fat guy that Larry Brown was taken with for a short period of time.
Javtokas had no buyout in 06 and was gettable. Him being the third option to a 30 year old 3rd string RFA center and a fatass coat-stealing RFA was a severe disappointment, and the Spurs won in 07 in spite of how they spent the MLE in summer 06 not because of it.
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ALL THAT BEING SAID
Javtokas will never be a Spur, and at this point in time with Mahinmi on board Javtokas is fairly unnecessary. He could still be a nice banger off the bench to muscle up against the bigger centers out west, but with Thomas likely to be re-signed Javtokas has no place and is making much better money in Russia.
I liked him in 06 and like him still, but there isn't a place for him anymore, unlike in 06 where the Spurs were in a situation where both worthless and doghouse ridden centers were exited (Rasho and Nazr), Oberto hadn't shown anything, and Scola was bound to never play for SA. Javtokas had a role he could fill then, but not anymore.
MAYBE if Kurt Thomas retires inexplicably or gets a huge overpaid deal from another team the Spurs will consider Javtokas as a back-up plan over established scrub FA centers, but that's highly unlikely.
Jovtakas seems like a bull inside. Possible replacement for Thomas? Does he really want to play in the NBA?
Hopefully. A big lineup of: RJ, TD, Ian, KT, Bonner, and Fab would look very nice.
OK. 6 players and 5 chairs. You tell me.
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