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    Signing any of the Warriors wings just got tougher.

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    Kiss Azibuike goodbye

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    we should still have a pretty good chance at Pietrus; might take the full MLE now though...

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    Yeah, the odds weren't great to begin with but I think you can kiss any possibilities of getting Kelenna goodbye.

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    I think this makes our chances greater B-Diddy, Ellis, and Biedrins no way they worry about Azibuike

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    Someone explain this to me.
    I thought getting Kelenna would be easier with Baron opting out?

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    darn it... lets just hope he resigns for a big contract.

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    Someone explain this to me.
    I thought getting Kelenna would be easier with Baron opting out?
    I'm with you Mr Tooth, they need to worry about their core players before their role players

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    Someone explain this to me.
    I thought getting Kelenna would be easier with Baron opting out?
    With Baron opting out, his $17.8 million he was owed this coming season comes off the books for Golden State.

    Counting him they were on the hook for $49 million, and that's before talking to Biedrins and Ellis, both expected to be roughly 8-10 million dollar guys.

    So, you've got the luxury tax cap sitting at $69 million and GS needs to re-sign both those two, which would push them up near the luxury tax, and they'd still need to sign at the minimum four more players at that point, with Barnes, Pietrus, and Kelenna twisting in the wind.

    Reading the tea leaves, perhaps this indicates that Baron is opting out to take a cheaper deal with GS and give them the cap relief necessary to keep Ellis, Biedrins, and one of those three wings (maybe even more).

    With him committed, the Spurs could have offered him the full MLE with some contract pay kickers in there that would have made him cost upwards of 11-12 million for the first year or two (factoring in the dollar for dollar lux tax penalty).

    That said, Kelenna's position for them was really SF, and I read an article last night where the GS beat writer speculated that with Anthony Randolph on board, Nellie is thinking of playing Randolph at SF and that would make Kelenna, if offered a sizable amount, expendable.

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    With Baron opting out, his $17.8 million he was owed this coming season comes off the books for Golden State.

    Counting him they were on the hook for $49 million, and that's before talking to Biedrins and Ellis, both expected to be roughly 8-10 million dollar guys.

    So, you've got the luxury tax cap sitting at $69 million and GS needs to re-sign both those two, which would push them up near the luxury tax, and they'd still need to sign at the minimum four more players at that point, with Barnes, Pietrus, and Kelenna twisting in the wind.

    Reading the tea leaves, perhaps this indicates that Baron is opting out to take a cheaper deal with GS and give them the cap relief necessary to keep Ellis, Biedrins, and one of those three wings (maybe even more).

    With him committed, the Spurs could have offered him the full MLE with some contract pay kickers in there that would have made him cost upwards of 11-12 million for the first year or two (factoring in the dollar for dollar lux tax penalty).

    That said, Kelenna's position for them was really SF, and I read an article last night where the GS beat writer speculated that with Anthony Randolph on board, Nellie is thinking of playing Randolph at SF and that would make Kelenna, if offered a sizable amount, expendable.
    Ah, I see.

    Oh, .

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    Someone explain this to me.
    I thought getting Kelenna would be easier with Baron opting out?
    if they re-sign him for the max, it would make getting kelenna easier. but they don't seem overly keen to do that.

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    and if BDiddy walks who would be the point? Doesnt seem too ideal for GS

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    and if BDiddy walks who would be the point? Doesnt seem too ideal for GS


    This could be a match made in heaven.

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    And where did you hear this? I can't find a link.

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    This could be a match made in heaven.

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    And where did you hear this? I can't find a link.
    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakam...he-table-deal/

    ou don’t shock most NBA types easily. Seen it all. Figure the biggest players are the ones most capable of the biggest surprises.

    But I just did a quick survey of a few people around the league and they are stunned, just stunned, that Baron Davis chose to reverse course and opt-out of the last year and $17.8-million contract.

    It was done quietly, too, which surprises me almost as much. I never imagined Davis would opt-out (I am on LOUD RECORD on that one, so Baron can laugh at me forever–unless he screwed this up royally, we’ll see), but I also figured that if he did, he’d do it with horns blaring.

    Nope. The paperwork apparently got over to the Warriors without fanfare today after 4 p.m. Nobody there expected it or had any pre-warning, especially since Baron’s agent said last week that he almost certainly wouldn’t be opting out.
    Story continued at the link above.

    This will be interesting to watch, because this actually puts Baron on the books for 150% of his salary (25 million) and hoses up the GS salary cap situation. Unless they've already worked something out with him, this really puts GS in a bind on dealing with free agents...

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    and if BDiddy walks who would be the point? Doesnt seem too ideal for GS
    Another way to ask the question is, where would Davis go? Maybe the Wiz would consider swapping him for Arenas.

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    Another way to ask the question is, where would Davis go? Maybe the Wiz would consider swapping him for Arenas.
    NJ or the Clips?

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    I don't know, but I'm guessing Davis also may want to go to a team with a shot at decent playoff run. The Clips may have a better team than the Nets, and they're in his hometown, but they have almost no chance at making the playoffs and I don't know Sterling will sign him to big deal. The Nets are in the East, so they're always in the running for a 7 or 8 spot.

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    Clippers might let Maggette and Brand walk to bring in Davis. Davis spends most of his time in LA and would likely be open to going home. Sterling knows Davis would sell tickets, so he'd be down.
    Last edited by timvp; 06-30-2008 at 10:34 PM.

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    Clippers might let Maggette and Brand walk to bring in Davis. Davis spends most of his time in LA and would likely be open to going home. Sterling knows Davis would sell tickets, so he'd be down.
    I could see Maggette walk, but not Brand.

    Baron Davis and Brand would be a good duo. I just don't see Sterling paying B. Davis that type of moola.

    He would go the cheap route of trading Maggette for Barbosa even though he isn't a true point.

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    Espn says he would be good in NY

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    Signing any of the Warriors wings just got tougher.
    Then again resigning with the Warriors would mean that (Azabuke, Ellis, Davis etc) would have to play for Don 'I hate my players' Nelson. This is the same dumbass that didn't play Davis in a critical game late in the season and it ended up costing them a playoff spot.

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    I haven't got any sources but from what the comments I'm reading from Warriors fans it gives the notion that he's actually opting out to get a larger deal.

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    I could see Maggette walk, but not Brand.

    Baron Davis and Brand would be a good duo. I just don't see Sterling paying B. Davis that type of moola.

    He would go the cheap route of trading Maggette for Barbosa even though he isn't a true point.
    Well, they did not extend a qualifying offer to Livingston (5.8 million), and if Maggette walks that frees up $8.4 million, putting them at about $40 million against the cap.

    They could have enough room under the cap for Davis to not worry about the lux tax and next year would have another $14 million coming off the books.

    And he knows Davis would sell tickets.

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