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It's 2010. That's the year when the free agency market is supposed to be loaded, and when the Spurs should have enough money to spend a maz contract on someone.
All this talk about age not mattering if Timmy, TP and Manu were healthy is great BUT it seems like Pop is setting up the organization for success only up til he decides to call it quites in 2012.
I mean wat young players aside from TP do we have to build around? Ian isn't a sure thing or even close to it yet. We better try our damnest to sign Bosh or some other big man with all that magical salary cap space in 2012. This offseason I say go after Magette, Azabuke, JR Smith or even Artest if he opts out.
It's 2010. That's the year when the free agency market is supposed to be loaded, and when the Spurs should have enough money to spend a maz contract on someone.
I find it interesting that Pop mention years. Does Kurt Thomas want more than a two years contract which will screw the 2010 plan ?
Ford mentioned a three years contract for Thomas.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...eAgents-080629
Thomas could have also signed an extension with Spurs before July (like Jamison did). I doubt Spurs haven't made him a proposition after Splitter ed Spurs. he obviously turned it down. Thomas coming back in SA is far from being a sure thing.
I'm still trying to figure out why in the the Thomas signing is viewed as a necessity...the Suns are done. Nash does not have it anymore...and concerning the value of Thomas, neither does Shaq.
I'm not a big fan of Thomas. I just don't see who else Spurs could sign as bigman without using the MLE. Are you fine with Oberto, Bonner, Mahinmi and Horry as Duncan supporting cast ?
This is what I see, too. I see the Spurs following the same template they have for a while: standing pat, slight tweaking. Finley and Horry returning are more likely than not.
This year, if they want, the Spurs can make a run in the Free Agent Market
The Spurs have the MLE and LLE + too many money if they Make a Sign and Trade
8 Millions with Thomas, 4 millions with D Stou, 3,5 millions with Horry and a couple of millions in Finley
So we can, but very probably we are not going to:
Thomas, Horry and Finley for Elton Brand
But this thing can means Luxury Tax
cant believe im saying this but keep kurt(he' old and short,but maybe with a whole season) and either trade a combo trade with the rest of our players or dump them at calveras lake.........
Gotta keep Kurt ... if for no other reason than trade bait. If you don't re-sign him, there will likely be wasted dead money between the salary cap and the lux tax threshold.
Two-year contract worth between $8M and $12M makes a lot of sense for both sides. If some team wants to throw a three-year, $16M contract at him ... then yeah you probably gotta let him walk. But another team would have to be pretty damn dumb to give him that contract.
I have a feeling Finley is coming back for the minimum.
Same with Horry.
my feeling is that Fin is staying with the spurs... as an assistant coach though...
If the Spurs bring back Michael Finley next year, I may not be able to watch them
And I sincerely hope that this article, Pop was just being CIA. Obviously having a healthy Manu Ginobili would have made a huge difference in the WCF against the Lakers. But I honestly don't understand that mentality. Even without Ginobili, the Spurs still had arguably the 2nd the 3rd best players on the court in Parker and Duncan. That should have been more than enough to beat this Lakers team. Instead, we saw a Duncan and Parker which were gassed from the tough first two rounds of the playoffs. This team looked more and more like a 3 man team (with Bowen's defense as usual of course) then they've ever looked in previous seasons. Spurs essentially got nothing out of their bench, if you don't count Ginobili. Bonner, Vaughn, Finley, Horry, Udoka were rendered useless for most of the postseason games. That the Spurs even made it that far in the postseason is a testament of Pop's excellent coaching and how great the Big 3 and Bowen are.
Pop better not be thinking his usual "If we win, we are experienced, if we lose we are older than dirt" mentality anymore. It may have worked in 07, but this year, the Spurs officially went over that line of being a veteran team and just being an old team. I'm not saying they need to completely revamp their rosters, but bringing back guys like Finley/Horry/Vaughn etc next season would just be d*mb.
I love them both, but I really wish Mike and Rob would just go gracefully into retirement. Both showed at times last season that they can't keep up with the increasingly frenetic league any more, and their roster spots should go to young up-and-comers who are potentially the future of the franchise. Holding onto those guys for another year will just delay the need to get younger, quicker and more athletic. Time to be bold, not rely on old horses.
PS I think many of you under-rate Kurt Thomas, and he will show you how valuable he is next year. The guy is a workhorse and a lunch-pail trench warrior.
Last edited by RuffnReadyOzStyle; 07-01-2008 at 08:26 AM.
Re sign Finley for the veteran minimum for one year!!
Re-sign Horry for the veteran minimum for one year!!
Re-sign Kurt Thomas for no more than two years and no more than 4 milion per year!!
I only saw a Little mistake
Last year the team remains the same and not improved, many people sayed was because the Spurs won with this team, and the same team can do it again
Every team, specially Celtics and Lakers improved, and both played the Finals
So, we must to improve this year
And dont talk to me about things like:
Save Money, Under the Luxury Tax, Cash Considerations, trade a player to remain under the Luxury Tax, trade a player for a Draft Pick
I want a better team, this is the NBA not Wall Street, NBA is Sport and Wall Street is Business
If the Spurs bring back Michael Finley next year, I may not be able to watch them
And I sincerely hope that this article, Pop was just being CIA. Obviously having a healthy Manu Ginobili would have made a huge difference in the WCF against the Lakers. But I honestly don't understand that mentality. Even without Ginobili, the Spurs still had arguably the 2nd the 3rd best players on the court in Parker and Duncan. That should have been more than enough to beat this Lakers team. Instead, we saw a Duncan and Parker which were gassed from the tough first two rounds of the playoffs. This team looked more and more like a 3 man team (with Bowen's defense as usual of course) then they've ever looked in previous seasons. Spurs essentially got nothing out of their bench, if you don't count Ginobili. Bonner, Vaughn, Finley, Horry, Udoka were rendered useless for most of the postseason games. That the Spurs even made it that far in the postseason is a testament of Pop's excellent coaching and how great the Big 3 and Bowen are.
Pop better not be thinking his usual "If we win, we are experienced, if we lose we are older than dirt" mentality anymore. It may have worked in 07, but this year, the Spurs officially went over that line of being a veteran team and just being an old team. I'm not saying they need to completely revamp their rosters, but bringing back guys like Finley/Horry/Vaughn etc next season would just be d*mb.
The question is who to replace them with?
And how much money do the spurs need to do good moves. I think they know what moves they want to do but there are possibilieties which are not depending only on them
This article sucks
I miss Ludden
McDonald seems to get worse the longer he is here.
Ludden should be forced to write a Spurs article every week, just so we can have something good to read.
Another case of San Antonio being outbid by a 'foreign' employer.
Are the various comments about Ludden the first of the wails about "why doesn't the traitor stay to cover a championship team instead of going for the money?"
Yeah, but how often have this team at the Spurs FO made blockbuster moves that cost big money? Damn, I'd like to see some bold move(s) but I won't be shocked if they just trim a little around the edges.
the 2010 plan. No one is going to come to San Antonio when Brooklyn is going to have two max slots open.
Why not? These things are very real considerations.
You couldn't be more wrong.I want a better team, this is the NBA not Wall Street, NBA is Sport and Wall Street is Business
Yeah cause Bold moves win championships.
The Spurs haven't had this much wiggle room under the lux tax threshold since the summer of 2004.
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