Yahoo: Spurs front-runners in race for Maggette

[bigdog]

what kind of question is that?

Just thought you might have been hated so much by now that you'd be banned.

That's all.

[T Park]

Mid-level exception
A team is allowed to sign one player to a contract equal to the average NBA salary, even if the team is over the salary cap already, or if the signing would put them over the cap. This is known as the Mid-level exception. The Mid-Level Exception for the 2007-08 NBA season is $5.36 million. Only teams that are over the Salary Cap can use the mid-level exception to sign free agents.

from wikipedia

So that pretty much confirms what I said.

, it would be BAD if they went under the cap.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

So Matt Bonner's $3mill is hosing the Spurs again.

As much of a scrub as I think Bonner is, his $3 million isn't hanging us up. As the NBA sees it, here's our salary status for 2008-2009:

Currently committed salaries: 56 million
Hill: rookie scale 100%: 838K
Two roster spots: 460K each, 920K

Total: $57.7 million.

MLE: $5.8 million
LLE: $1.9 million

Trade exception: $1.9 million (Beno)
Trade exception: $400K (Thomas)
Trade exception: $400k (Scola)

Total: ~68 million.

And I believe that Thomas and Barry are still technically on the books for 150% of their salaries as well.

[spurman20]

Check your numbers.

Spurs are at 56 million. As of the completion of the draft, they are on the hook for Hill's 'minimum' salary of 838K, plus a charge of approximately $460K for two empty roster spots (with Hill, they only have 9 guys under contract).

That puts us back at $58 million, and the cap hasn't been announced for 2008-2009 yet. There is no wiggle room under the cap, and even if the Spurs were under the cap by 2 million, they can't add that to the MLE money and give him $7 mil or something stupid like that.

Further:

If a team is below the cap, then their Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level and/or Traded Player exceptions are added to their team salary, and the league treats the team as though they are over the cap. So even if theoretically we had this mythical $2 million you are talking about (which we don't, see above), the league would still tack on the amounts for the MLE and LLE on top of our trade exceptions and we'd be capped out.

Stick to the kiddie pool, 'agent'.

You must have gotten you education from Texas a and n......notice I said we are under the cap now not signing draft pics......all FA that we hold rights to can be renounce to create futher room, in doing so that puts the spurs 2-3 mil under the projected cap....meaning the spurs could sign a FA for the anount under the cap, then use MLE then LLE . to fill roster viods they can also sign players for vets min pending on years of service is about 1.1 m......dont talk to me about caps with some info you got off the net....your out of you league.

[TheMadHatter]

Teams under the cap who might make a play:

GSW - If they don't find themselves a legit starting PG, which is their #1 option right now, they could easily make this deal and outbid everyone. Right now they have expressed no interest in Maggette though.

PHI - They lost out on Brand and there is no way they are getting at J. Smith. Maggette could be their backup plan, right now they are starting Willie Green......Maggette would be a big upgrade there.

MEM - Not happening.

Teams over the cap

Every single NBA contender. This is what's going to be tough for any team to get Maggette's services for the MLE price. EVERYONE is going to make a play, even if Maggette doesn't necessarily fit their team, simply because of the price tag. When you can get a player of his caliber for this cheap you do the deal regardless. At worst he is a valuable trading chip for the future. It's for this reason that I don't see Maggette making any moves for a long time, he's going to be fielding offers from just about everyone.

[oligarchy]

Mid-level exception
A team is allowed to sign one player to a contract equal to the average NBA salary, even if the team is over the salary cap already, or if the signing would put them over the cap. This is known as the Mid-level exception. The Mid-Level Exception for the 2007-08 NBA season is $5.36 million. Only teams that are over the Salary Cap can use the mid-level exception to sign free agents.

from wikipedia

There's also a portion missing that states that if you are under the cap by an amount less than the MLE, you still get the MLE.

So, it would hurt the LLE and other exceptions, but not the MLE.

[bigdog]

Hes kind of like the blowup clown that you punch and he pops back up.

Ah, one of those es.

[Spurtacus]

Is it July 9 yet?

[SequSpur]

Just thought you might have been hated so much by now that you'd be banned.

That's all.

hated for what? for speaking my opinion? ... I like the Maggette deal, I like the Hill draft, I like Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, Horry, Udoka, Thomas, etc.

But Vaughn and Bonner suck and Bowen is 100 years old. , you can't turn back frickin time einstein. .

I'm not a Popsucker like tpark, solid d, and chumpdumber are... , I can see through the smoking mirrors and bull .

I will tell you what most think but don't have the balls to say. the Spurs got there ass blown out in the west finals.. , it wasn't even close, they have issues and to sit here standing pat with the same bull they had last year ain't going to cut it, because they couldn't beat LA, Detroit or Boston with this ty lineup.

Yes, I'm still here.

[2centsworth]

Teams under the cap who might make a play:

GSW - If they don't find themselves a legit starting PG, which is their #1 option right now, they could easily make this deal and outbid everyone. Right now they have expressed no interest in Maggette though.

PHI - They lost out on Brand and there is no way they are getting at J. Smith. Maggette could be their backup plan, right now they are starting Willie Green......Maggette would be a big upgrade there.

MEM - Not happening.

Teams over the cap

Every single NBA contender. This is what's going to be tough for any team to get Maggette's services for the MLE price. EVERYONE is going to make a play, even if Maggette doesn't necessarily fit their team, simply because of the price tag. When you can get a player of his caliber for this cheap you do the deal regardless. At worst he is a valuable trading chip for the future. It's for this reason that I don't see Maggette making any moves for a long time, he's going to be fielding offers from just about everyone.

you're may be right, but this now makes JR Smith a little more attainable.

[oligarchy]

You must have gotten you education from Texas a and n......notice I said we are under the cap now not signing draft pics......all FA that we hold rights to can be renounce to create futher room, in doing so that puts the spurs 2-3 mil under the projected cap....meaning the spurs could sign a FA for the anount under the cap, then use MLE then LLE . to fill roster viods they can also sign players for vets min pending on years of service is about 1.1 m......dont talk to me about caps with some info you got off the net....your out of you league.

You are a moron. You don't get under cap and then have the ability to use exceptions. You only get exceptions when you are OVER CAP.

[Big P]

So know the question is, can we front load a contract for him, & if the answer is yes, how much could we load it by? Thanks in advance cap gurus..

[Marcus Bryant]

You must have gotten you education from Texas a and n......notice I said we are under the cap now not signing draft pics......all FA that we hold rights to can be renounce to create futher room, in doing so that puts the spurs 2-3 mil under the projected cap....meaning the spurs could sign a FA for the anount under the cap, then use MLE then LLE . to fill roster viods they can also sign players for vets min pending on years of service is about 1.1 m......dont talk to me about caps with some info you got off the net....your out of you league.

So we should pretend like the Spurs have renounced Kurt Thomas? Where'd you go to school, ITT Tech?

[T Park]

You are a moron. You don't get under cap and then have the ability to use exceptions. You only get exceptions when you are OVER CAP.

Hey thats an agent you're talkin to there

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

You must have gotten you education from Texas a and n......notice I said we are under the cap now not signing draft pics......all FA that we hold rights to can be renounce to create futher room, in doing so that puts the spurs 2-3 mil under the projected cap....meaning the spurs could sign a FA for the anount under the cap, then use MLE then LLE . to fill roster viods they can also sign players for vets min pending on years of service is about 1.1 m......dont talk to me about caps with some info you got off the net....your out of you league.

Geezus ing Christ.

"Not signing draft picks". I'm not counting our second rounders. Apparently you flunked out of agent school. The league put Hill on the books for 100% of his rookie pay scale ($838K) the minute the draft ended. It's what they do.

Similarly, because with Hill that's only 10 players under contract they charge us for two empty roster spots at the rookie minimum ($460K for 2008-2009).

I really don't give a what fuzzy math you use to try and make yourself look 'agent smart', the league does its math a different way. Funny, the edumacation I got at A&M taught me little like how to read, which comes in handy if you ever decide to peruse the CBA and figure out what it means in English.

Like I said, stick to the kiddie pool Jerry Maguire.

[2centsworth]

your barely even tall enough to make it through the door

Pipe down kid.

dude, you're the last person on earth that should make fun of people's appearence. Not cool.

[SequSpur]

your barely even tall enough to make it through the door

Pipe down kid.

kid? I'm old enough to be your daddy clown act...

[spurman20]

You are a moron. You don't get under cap and then have the ability to use exceptions. You only get exceptions when you are OVER CAP.

Look up at the winki quote posted, a team may use a MLE if doing so will put them over the cap.....in other words if your under the cap say 3 mil you can still use MLE for the full amount.

[T Park]

kid? I'm old enough to be your daddy clown act...

Yet you act like a 13 year old.

dude, you're the last person on earth that should make fun of people's appearence. Not cool.

Oh really?

Like I give a what you think.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Hey dumbass (spursman20), here's the math. Try reading.

As much of a scrub as I think Bonner is, his $3 million isn't hanging us up. As the NBA sees it, here's our salary status for 2008-2009:

Currently committed salaries: 56 million
Hill: rookie scale 100%: 838K
Two roster spots: 460K each, 920K

Total: $57.7 million.

MLE: $5.8 million
LLE: $1.9 million

Trade exception: $1.9 million (Beno)
Trade exception: $400K (Thomas)
Trade exception: $400k (Scola)

Total: ~68 million.

And I believe that Thomas and Barry are still technically on the books for 150% of their salaries as well.

[T Park]

Geezus ing Christ.

"Not signing draft picks". I'm not counting our second rounders. Apparently you flunked out of agent school. The league put Hill on the books for 100% of his rookie pay scale ($838K) the minute the draft ended. It's what they do.

Similarly, because with Hill that's only 10 players under contract they charge us for two empty roster spots at the rookie minimum ($460K for 2008-2009).

I really don't give a what fuzzy math you use to try and make yourself look 'agent smart', the league does its math a different way. Funny, the edumacation I got at A&M taught me little like how to read, which comes in handy if you ever decide to peruse the CBA and figure out what it means in English.

Like I said, stick to the kiddie pool Jerry Maguire.

Tom Cruise just knocked and wants a retraction immediately.

[2centsworth]

Spurman20, stay out of the CBA talk with these dudes until you're a pro. Dude's are like pretend agents and s*&t.

[bigdog]

You must have gotten you education from Texas a and n......notice I said we are under the cap now not signing draft pics......all FA that we hold rights to can be renounce to create futher room, in doing so that puts the spurs 2-3 mil under the projected cap....meaning the spurs could sign a FA for the anount under the cap, then use MLE then LLE . to fill roster viods they can also sign players for vets min pending on years of service is about 1.1 m......dont talk to me about caps with some info you got off the net....your out of you league.

Damn. For an agent, you sure can't spell to save your life.

[oligarchy]

Hey thats an agent you're talkin to there

I'd hate to see who he represents. Poor bas s.

[DynastyBuilder]

I think GS will throw more at Monta Ellis since it was rumored the Grizz wanted to give him 10mil. Not a buyer on Maggette to GS just yet.