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    Look up at the winki quote posted, a team may use a MLE if doing so will put them over the cap.....in other words if your under the cap say 3 mil you can still use MLE for the full amount.
    are getting your info from the wiki? god, you are re ed. try going here and brushing up on your "agent" skills:

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

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    Look up at the winki quote posted, a team may use a MLE if doing so will put them over the cap.....in other words if your under the cap say 3 mil you can still use MLE for the full amount.
    Yeah, but the whole point is earlier in the thread you said we could add whatever we're under the cap to the MLE.

    I think Barry opt out to help spurs bing in Maggette, we are a couple mil under the cap with him not on roster so they could offer Maggette 6-7 m and sign Barry to to LLE for about 1.8m and because they have K T bird rights sign him above the cap for lets say 2 yrs 8 m
    We know the Spurs can use the MLE, we don't need a reject from agent school to tell us that.

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    Geezus ing Christ.

    "Not signing draft picks". I'm not counting our second rounders. Apparently you flunked out of agent school. The league put Hill on the books for 100% of his rookie pay scale ($838K) the minute the draft ended. It's what they do.

    Similarly, because with Hill that's only 10 players under contract they charge us for two empty roster spots at the rookie minimum ($460K for 2008-2009).

    I really don't give a what fuzzy math you use to try and make yourself look 'agent smart', the league does its math a different way. Funny, the edumacation I got at A&M taught me little like how to read, which comes in handy if you ever decide to peruse the CBA and figure out what it means in English.

    Like I said, stick to the kiddie pool Jerry Maguire.

    As long as a team signs FA before signing draft pics the pics salaries dont count against the team....untill they are signed. L James did this with cleavland when he was drafted to allow them to sign other players without his contract on the books till after they signed who they wanted in the FA market.

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    signing maggette would certainly diminish Hill's chances of being a combo guard

    good, right?

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    Yeah, but the whole point is earlier in the thread you said we could add whatever we're under the cap to the MLE.



    We know the Spurs can use the MLE, we don't need a reject from agent school to tell us that.
    Get out of your moms basement dude and come clean the gutters on my 7500sq ft home in Austin! If you do a good job Ill let you have one of my season tickets!!!

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    your barely even tall enough to make it through the door

    Pipe down kid.
    how can you be barely tall enough to make it through a door?

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    Get out of your moms basement dude and come clean the gutters on my 7500sq ft home in Austin! If you do a good job Ill let you have one of my season tickets!!!
    dude, do you have a plasma? lets have a gtg at your house...

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    No one is saying stay out of it.

    Just don't come in saying

    NO YOUR WRONG AND HERES WHY

    when the reasons why are totally 100% wrong.


    Now had he brought LEGIT reasons why they were wrong, Aggie and others would've had no problem discussing it.

    But he drops the "Im an agent" card when hes totally clueless.
    my post was giving props to aggie and alike.

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    signing maggette would certainly diminish Hill's chances of being a combo guard

    good, right?
    Doesn't diminish it in the least.

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    my post was giving props to aggie and alike.
    I know.

    I was expounding on it for the people reading

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    As long as a team signs FA before signing draft pics the pics salaries dont count against the team....untill they are signed. L James did this with cleavland when he was drafted to allow them to sign other players without his contract on the books till after they signed who they wanted in the FA market.
    wow...lol...you have provided me with some much needed laughs tonight...

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    Damn. For an agent, you sure can't spell to save your life.
    I think dude was Ricky Williams' first agent.

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    I think dude was Ricky Williams' first agent.

    Ah snap,

    we got Master P in here?!?!?!

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    are getting your info from the wiki? god, you are re ed. try going here and brushing up on your "agent" skills:

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm
    The winki post is a brief outling of the bi laws of nba salary cap code.....I dont think you want to read all 48 pages of rules on use of the MLE!

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    As long as a team signs FA before signing draft pics the pics salaries dont count against the team....untill they are signed. L James did this with cleavland when he was drafted to allow them to sign other players without his contract on the books till after they signed who they wanted in the FA market.
    No, Lebron didn't sign his because they were going to give him the max allowable for his slot, so he stayed on the books at 100% of his rookie scale until they signed others.

    Here, let me help:

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#14

    Exactly what is included when computing total team salaries?

    # The "scale" amount for the team's unsigned first-round draft pick(s) (see question number 43). This amount begins applying to the team's team salary immediately upon selection in the draft. However, this is not the same as his trade value (see question number 71).

    # A roster charge if the team has fewer than 12 players (players under contract, free agents included in team salary, players given offer sheets, and first round draft picks). The roster charge is equal to the rookie minimum salary for each player below 12. The roster charge only applies during the offseason.

    # The combined amount of any Mid-Level, Bi-Annual, Disabled Player (see question number 19) or Traded Player exceptions (see question number 69) available to the team (see question number 20), if the team is under the salary cap. (Teams may renounce these exceptions, in which case they no longer are included in team salary.)
    Seriously, did you get your agent license out of a cracker jack box? You really don't know .

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    No, Lebron didn't sign his because they were going to give him the max allowable for his slot, so he stayed on the books at 100% of his rookie scale until they signed others.

    Here, let me help:

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#14



    Seriously, unless you got your agent license out of a cracker jack box, you really don't know .
    Well I sure did make alot of cheese this year for someone who doesnt know much, maybe you should buy some cracker jacks and get yours!

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    Get out of your moms basement dude and come clean the gutters on my 7500sq ft home in Austin! If you do a good job Ill let you have one of my season tickets!!!
    Salary smack. Classic. Sorry, I'll pass, got a morning tee time tomorrow here in Dallas, getting paid to play

    Your 75 square foot box under I35 doesn't count as a 'home'.

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    spurman20, you are obviously new to this board. When it comes to CBA talk, you better come correct or get killed.

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    you guys are frickin hilarious...

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    Well I sure did make alot of cheese this year for someone who doesnt know much, maybe you should buy some cracker jacks and get yours!


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    Well I sure did make alot of cheese this year for someone who doesnt know much, maybe you should buy some cracker jacks and get yours!
    Yeah, I hear the WIC program gives you two pounds of cheese a month, I'm sure you stocked up.

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    Maybe the Maggette camp feels that the best way to maximize his earning potential in a weak market, is to sign a 3yr. contract (3rd being p.o.) at the MLE. Opting-out in year three (2010, when there will be multiple teams with cap-room) leaves him a great chance of getting a contract well above his market-value. After the top-tier free-agents are off the board, players like Maggette would benefit from teams scrambling to find a way to salvage their offseason. Thus, over-paying for lesser talent.

    Playing for a team like the Spurs for 2 years, would give Maggette a chance to re-shape his image. If he's a good soldier, contributes to a winning team, and maybe even becomes a key-contributor to a championship team? He could really help himself financially down the road. Artest might have done well to do the same.

    The positives of Maggette are obviously his free-throws, rebounding, and overall athleticism. He'd be a of a fouth scorer and could really help to lighten the load on what most likely will be a beaten-up Ginobili.

    The negatives being: he's a bit of a ball stopper, he's injury-prone, and his passion/drive has left alot to be desired in the past.

    For the MLE though, Maggette is a no-brainer. Worst case scenario you finally have a tradeable asset (outside The Big 3) with an attractive/friendly contract.

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    Well I sure did make alot of cheese this year for someone who doesnt know much, maybe you should buy some cracker jacks and get yours!
    alot of cheese? You are probably in your late 30's, a high school drop-out, and you are currently sitting at the edge of your bed that you share with your mom trying not to wake her up.

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    Maybe the Maggette camp feels that the best way to maximize his earning potential in a weak market, is to sign a 3yr. contract (3rd being p.o.) at the MLE. Opting-out in year three (2010, when there will be multiple teams with cap-room) leaves him a great chance of getting a contract well above his market-value. After the top-tier free-agents are off the board, players like Maggette would benefit from teams scrambling to find a way to salvage their offseason. Thus, over-paying for lesser talent.

    Playing for a team like the Spurs for 2 years, would give Maggette a chance to re-shape his image. If he's a good soldier, contributes to a winning team, and maybe even becomes a key-contributor to a championship team? He could really help himself financially down the road. Artest might have done well to do the same.

    The positives of Maggette are obviously his free-throws, rebounding, and overall athleticism. He'd be a of a fouth scorer and could really help to lighten the load on what most likely will be a beaten-up Ginobili.

    The negatives being: he's a bit of a ball stopper, he's injury-prone, and his passion/drive has left alot to be desired in the past.

    For the MLE though, Maggette is a no-brainer. Worst case scenario you finally have a tradeable asset (outside The Big 3) with an attractive/friendly contract.
    He basically has that same opportunity with Orlando. The difference being, actually being a contender or not.

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    Just watched ESPNNEWS.

    Nothing about "maggette's verbal" bs
    They did cover spurman30 lighting his farts in his mom's basement while trying to argue on the internet about the salary cap though...

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