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    For the billionth time in this thread, the NBA puts rookies on the team's cap at the conclusion of the draft. No matter how many times you choose to ignore this fact doesn't make it any less of a reality.
    Cap charges are not taken into account untill " said player has contractually agreed to render services for the contract stated length of time where as said players rights to services are here after deemed property of the said organization....."......" a team shall be deemed to retain all rights to services of said player even in the event said player declines to agree to contract until such time as players rights are waived or traded...."......In other words a players salary is off the books till signed.....the spurs have rights to several over seas players..... tiago splitter ...Is he on the books smart ass???

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    Anyways, back to the article that started this all. It definitely read as though in the past tense.


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    If it's worth anything, if you go to Yahoo.com, then click on the little sports tab on the center of the page, there is a link that goes to the Yahoo article about the Spurs and Maggette, and it's led "Spurs near deal"
    It's not worth much. It's the same article.

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    Cap charges are not taken into account untill " said player has contractually agreed to render services for the contract stated length of time where as said players rights to services are here after deemed property of the said organization....."......" a team shall be deemed to retain all rights to services of said player even in the event said player declines to agree to contract until such time as players rights are waived or traded...."......In other words a players salary is off the books till signed.....the spurs have rights to several over seas players..... tiago splitter ...Is he on the books smart ass???
    Are you actually linking something or just making it up?

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    Anyways, back to the article that started this all. It definitely read as though in the past tense.

    Yeah,

    the way he talks about the Spurs "Originally had planned to go after" makes me wonder.

    Hopefully its true and not poor journalism.

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    It's not worth much. It's the same article.
    Yeah, but it suggests that they could be working out a deal with Maggette's agent.

    I agree that it's just probably some le they made up to link to the article, but you never know.

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    i admit i have not seen maggette play much on tv, so i have to ask: how is good is he on defense?
    Average at best.

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    his average at best on D. i live in la so i catch a few clipper games here and there, but even then i'll admit my analyst of maggettes D isnt the most accurate cause its pretty hard to watch the clippers. i usually just leave it on in the background if the clippers are playing and theres nothing else on.

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    i admit i have not seen maggette play much on tv, so i have to ask: how is good is he on defense?
    Average.

    With the SPurs, hed improve.

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    I couldn't find the link, but I took a snapshot..

    http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/ima...c6cbd0feef.jpg

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    i admit i have not seen maggette play much on tv, so i have to ask: how is good is he on defense?
    He's not a really good defender. However, no one has ever demanded that he become better either. He's got the skills necessary to be a better defender. He's got quick enough feet and does crash the glass. It's a matter of getting him to develop a mindset for it. If he does come here, Pop will demand more outta him. Believe that.

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    i admit i have not seen maggette play much on tv, so i have to ask: how is good is he on defense?
    Better than Finley.

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    Well this is my first post so Hi all. I'm really psyched about this Corey news. He's 6'6" so I would assume that he would be penciled in to start at SG. He is a banger though and can go down low and averaged over 5 rebounds last year. Im liking the shape that this team is taking. I think that we are good at PG with Parker, Hill and Vaugh. I like Vaugh alot. He runs the team well and doesn't make mistakes. We really don't need any scoring at the point position. I'd like to see us ad Barnes as well. He's a really solid player that does pretty much everything. And though I like Thomas we need another big man. I think that Mahamini can be a stud but Pop doesn't seem to really trust young kids lately. so gimme Magette, Barnes and a big man and I'm good.

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    I doubt it. NY has reportedly offered a 2 yr deal worth about half the MLE.
    Thats even better...if NY is/was offering half the MLE, then Duhon would not be in Orlando if they were not offering at least the same type of money...half the MLE, which means if they do that, no full MLE contract for Maggs...

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    Are you actually linking something or just making it up?
    Like I said agent........spurs have rights to 4 over seas player and T Splitter is one, a first round pick that will not be on the spurs payroll untill he signs if he does.....we drafted him in 07 .....does anyone see his salary on our cap? No but we still hold his rights..Can anyone argue that fact? That is a quote from the Agents Hand book

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    Like I said agent........spurs have rights to 4 over seas player and T Splitter is one, a first round pick that will not be on the spurs payroll untill he signs if he does.....we drafted him in 07 .....does anyone see his salary on our cap? No but we still hold his rights..Can anyone argue that fact? That is a quote from the Agents Hand book

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    Well this is my first post so Hi all. I'm really psyched about this Corey news. He's 6'6" so I would assume that he would be penciled in to start at SG. He is a banger though and can go down low and averaged over 5 rebounds last year. Im liking the shape that this team is taking. I think that we are good at PG with Parker, Hill and Vaugh. I like Vaugh alot. He runs the team well and doesn't make mistakes. We really don't need any scoring at the point position. I'd like to see us ad Barnes as well. He's a really solid player that does pretty much everything. And though I like Thomas we need another big man. I think that Mahamini can be a stud but Pop doesn't seem to really trust young kids lately. so gimme Magette, Barnes and a big man and I'm good.
    Welcome...sorry you had to devirginize yourself in this filthy thread..lol

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    but Pop doesn't seem to really trust young kids lately
    False.

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    i admit i have not seen maggette play much on tv, so i have to ask: how is good is he on defense?
    From the article:

    “He’s going to take a lot of the offensive load off (Manu) Ginobili, but (Spurs coach Gregg) Popovich will have to hide him defensively on the floor,” a Western Conference scout said Tuesday night.

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    Better than Finley.
    His D is weak, because he doesnt wanna play it. But he has the skills to be a good one. That was the knock on him with Dunlevey.....all C M wants to do is score.

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    Like I said agent........spurs have rights to 4 over seas player and T Splitter is one, a first round pick that will not be on the spurs payroll untill he signs if he does.....we drafted him in 07 .....does anyone see his salary on our cap? No but we still hold his rights..Can anyone argue that fact? That is a quote from the Agents Hand book
    I just about gave up on Tiago. He reupped for four more years. And we can only pay him as a rookie. I don't see him coming over anytime soon. Spurs maybe need to just mvoe on.

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    I just about gave up on Tiago. He reupped for four more years. And we can only pay him as a rookie. I don't see him coming over anytime soon. Spurs maybe need to just mvoe on.
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    Cap charges are not taken into account untill " said player has contractually agreed to render services for the contract stated length of time where as said players rights to services are here after deemed property of the said organization....."......" a team shall be deemed to retain all rights to services of said player even in the event said player declines to agree to contract until such time as players rights are waived or traded...."......In other words a players salary is off the books till signed.....the spurs have rights to several over seas players..... tiago splitter ...Is he on the books smart ass???
    Hey dip , it's in the CBA. I guess you better get on the phone and tell the NBA their contract is wrong. Share some of your agent knowledge with them or something as they apparently need the help.

    Here, right out of the contract for your nappy ass:

    http://www.nbpa.com/cba_articles/article-VII_4.php

    (1) A First Round Pick, immediately upon selection in the Draft, shall be included in the Team Salary of the Team that holds his draft rights at 100% of his applicable Rookie Scale Amount, and, subject to Section 4(e)(2) below, shall continue to be included in the Team Salary of any Team that holds his draft rights (including any Team to which the player’s draft rights are assigned) until such time as the player signs with such Team or until the Team loses or assigns its exclusive draft rights to the player.
    What does 4(e)(2) state you ask?

    In the event that a First Round Pick signs with a non-NBA team, the player’s applicable Rookie Scale Amount shall be excluded from the Team Salary of the Team that holds his draft rights, beginning on the date he signs such non-NBA contract or the first day of the Regular Season, whichever is later, and shall be included again in his Team’s Team Salary at the applicable Rookie Scale Amount on the following July 1 or the date the player’s contract ends (or the player is released from his non-NBA contractual obligations), whichever is earlier, unless the Team renounces its exclusive rights to the player in accordance with Article X, Section 4(f).
    So to answer your question, agent boy, the day Tiago signed his new deal with Pau he came off the books.

    Like I said, find your way to the kiddie pool. That or buy some floaties. At the least shut the up about the CBA already, you know less about it than Laker fan knows about women.

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    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#14

    The "scale" amount for the team's unsigned first-round draft pick(s) (see question number 43). This amount begins applying to the team's team salary immediately upon selection in the draft. However, this is not the same as his trade value (see question number 71).
    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#43

    Unsigned first round picks are included in team salary immediately upon their selection in the draft. They count as 100% of the scale salary for that pick, unless there is a verbal agreement for a higher salary. An incident occurred prior to the 1997-98 season when Vancouver's first round pick, Antonio Daniels, revealed in an interview that he and the team had verbally agreed to a contract starting at the maximum salary (120% of the scale amount). Since verbal agreements apply to the salary cap, the league then changed the team's cap figure from the scale amount to 120% of scale.

    Once a first round pick signs a contract, his actual salary is included in the team salary, of course.

    Unsigned second round picks are not included in team salary. This is a loophole that Houston once tried to use by trading a first round pick for a second round pick in order to clear cap room.

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    Like I said agent........spurs have rights to 4 over seas player and T Splitter is one, a first round pick that will not be on the spurs payroll untill he signs if he does.....we drafted him in 07 .....does anyone see his salary on our cap? No but we still hold his rights..Can anyone argue that fact? That is a quote from the Agents Hand book
    He's not counted because he's under contract over seas.

    Yes, we still own his rights, but that's not why he doesn't count.

    That is a quote from the NBA Collective Bargaining Agreement, which also states that your agents hand book is ing stupid and you're full of .

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