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Texas state law says you can defend property with the use of deadly force, even outdoors. So, you're wrong.
Racist? Houston's violent crime rate went up over 500% in the year after Katrina. That's a fact. And the majority of those committing said crimes were from Louisiana. That's also a fact (pretty easy as most still had their La. driver's licenses on them).
Nothing racist there, and not everyone from La. who moved to Houston was a minority.
So piss off with the racist .
Texas state law says you can defend property with the use of deadly force, even outdoors. So, you're wrong.
God bless Texas
Good guy Free. Bad guys dead.
Me Happy.
Too bad they didn't speak anglish. "Quick, look up the meaning of FREEZE!!111"
Racism?
Try realism.
The truth hurts. Not as much as a shotgun to the back though
Also, I don't know about everywhere else...but in Texas neighbors look out for their neighbors. That's how it has always been for me growing up. We watch after each others houses when one leaves for vacation or when one is at work and the other is home. Not because the neighborhood is dangerous, but because an attack on your neighbor's house is a threat to YOU also.
The guy was old. Old school Texans don't take . I can admit that it doesn't really hold up to what the castle doctrine intended for, that is obvious. But the good guy won and the s piece of thieves died. That is justice imfo. Just wait until you get home one day and all of your is missing and your house is trashed. They got what they deserved.
Vigilantism?
"Turn a blind eye to the crime he was witnessing"???
Come on, Funt, you're to smart to make this statement.
If it's okay to "turn a blind eye" to this crime, then it's okay for every other crime . . . such as rape, or sexual abuse.
It happened here in San Antonio as well.
Not to the degree that it happened in Houston, but it happened nonetheless.
You've made the same comprehension error as T Park.
"I've yet to see a single post advocating..." does not equal "I am advocating..."
I hardly ever agree with TPark, but I'm with him on this one.
For anyone of you to side with the burglars is just pure stupidity. If those two dumbasses would've stayed at home, they wouldn't be dead right now.
I'm very pro gun control, but I'm also for protecting yourself and your property if you feel threatned. It doesn't matter that they were robbing Horn's neighbor. Who is to say that they weren't going to move on to Horn's house after they swept through his neighbor's house. None of you can make an assured statment that they wouldn't have gone into Horn's house after they finished with his neighbor's house.
It's extremely plausible that Horn felt threatned. And, I believe that he did the right thing. It's not his fault that those two guys decided to committ a crime.
Then, what is your point exactly?
all you people that don't live in texas just need to get over it and continue to live in the world that you create. life isn't always peachy, there is no santa clause and the easter bunny died along time ago, and for pete's sakes, funt, put away your damn slide rule. you're sounding like a female chumpdumper.
Another thing that pissed me the off was watching a crowd of black folk protesting in front of Horn's house.
They were raising their fists up in the air like they were fighting for their civil liberties. What the was all that about?? Two black dudes, who were illegal immigrants anyway, were shot for ROBBING A HOUSE!!! How is this somehow a civil rights issue??
Do they know how stupid this looks??
I'm pretty sure Dr. King and Malcolm X would have bee proud of all this.
That happened in a nearby neighborhood two nights ago. Somebody tried to break into an elderly couple's home, had trouble getting in and moved on to the next house - where the homeowner had heard him and was waiting with a gun. The would-be robber is now in the hospital in cirtical condition
The point of the post that you quoted was that there were ways Horn could have attempted to intervene in the situation that didn't involve grabbing his shotgun.
The assumption of the posts preceding mine was that the only two options in this situation were shooting the burglars, or giving them detailed schematics of every house on the block and baking them a cake to welcome them to the neighborhood.
According to some people posting here, that owner should have called the cops (and wait half an hour for them to get there), cowered into a closet, or turned a blind eye.That happened in a nearby neighborhood two nights ago. Somebody tried to break into an elderly couple's home, had trouble getting in and moved on to the next house - where the homeowner had heard him and was waiting with a gun. The would-be robber is now in the hospital in cirtical condition
However, I think he made the right decision.
And, my point was that "turning a blind eye to the crime" was a very stupid suggestion. I hope that you were being sarcastic because I know that you are too smart to make a statement like that.
Because, like I stated previously, if it's okay to turn a blind eye to this crime, then it's okay to turn a blind eye to other crimes.
The guy actually did call the cops first - but if he'd waited for them to get there, he would've been cleaned out.
Aint that the truth.
No, that's according to your twisting of the words of some of the posters here.
Waiting in your own house with a gun and wounding the person as they're actively breaking in is not the same thing as running outside with a shotgun and engaging with people breaking into a neighbor's house. Having a gun in the home is not something that I, personally, advocate (or would ever practice), but I still recognize that if you've got one and someone else is actively burglarizing your home, you're justified in using it. Running out with a shotgun to initiate contact with people burglarizing a neighbor's home, however, is not only an unnecessary extreme, but could have been creating a situation that is more dangerous -- there's no way Horn could have known for sure how these two would react to an old man with a shotgun.
Again, that's not the suggestion I made.
At all.
Ever.
My post was stating, specifically, that I had not seen anyone here make that suggestion. My post was stating, specifically, that "turning a blind eye" was NOT the only other option in this case.
Okay, here's the official story (not the one I heard from my neighbor last night):
Web Posted: 07/01/2008 10:42 PM CDT
By Robert Crowe
Express-News
Just hours before a San Antonio homeowner shot and critically wounded a 21-year-old man who police said walked into his home, a Harris County grand jury cleared a Pasadena grandfather in the shooting deaths of two men suspected in a burglary of his neighbor's house last fall.
San Antonio police said Stevens likely would not be charged in the 9:30 p.m. shooting of Stephen C. Garcia Jr. at Stevens' home in the 6500 block of Arrid Pass. Garcia survived a gunshot wound to his abdomen and was charged with burglary of a habitation. He was taken to University Hospital, where he remained in critical condition Tuesday. His bail was set at $75,000.
“It appears it was in self-defense, and that the homeowner protected his family,” said San Antonio Police Department spokesman Joe Rios.
He said Monday's incident in San Antonio appears to be a textbook example of how residents are protected under Texas law.
According to a police report, the intruder smelled of intoxicants when police tried to question him after the shooting. Stevens told police he was away from home when his wife called to say a man was attempting to enter his home shortly before 9:20 p.m.
The wife said the man had repeatedly knocked on their door, but she told him to leave. She then heard noises at her garage door.
Stevens rushed home and retrieved a gun. He called police to report the incident. While waiting for them, he heard a loud noise. Shortly afterward, the man walked into his home. When Stevens told him to get out, the intruder said nothing but continued walking forward before Stevens shot him.
“He did what he had to do, I guess,” said George Carter, Stevens' neighbor, who told police he also heard a loud noise outside his home before noticing that a portion of his fence had been knocked down. “He was protecting his wife and their 18-month-old.”
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