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    lefty's been here longer than you.
    oh cool regdates. whats next

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    How would the Spurs give them the exception though? Also, if Maggette is already a UFA with and they hold no rights it does not matter. Unless you are saying that another team will offer more to one or both of Baron and Brand. I guess none of this matters if Elton and Baron do not sign with LA...

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    I think the positives for Maggette outweigh some of the negatives that have understandably been mentioned.

    I may have missed it, but I don't recall Maggette having been a particularly bad guy in the room or having done anything embarassing off the court. He has that Duke pedigree, even if only for a year, and has played for a relatively demanding coach in Dunleavy -- it would be virtually impossible to simulate the Popovich hard line, of course, but there are signs that the kid responds to good coaches.

    I think the injury thing is a problem, but I'd be interested in finding out the nature of the injuries he's sustained over the years before deciding that he's just simply unable to play more than 70 games and is iffy to be ready for a playoff run.

    I see an inherent upside to Maggette's experience -- an upside that outstrips Pietrus, Azubuike, or Smith -- in that the Spurs are trying to win now and don't need too many guys who are still trying to learn how to play in the league. Maggette has the respect of officials, he's 9 years in, and he's played relatively well in a number of systems. I somehow find all of that to be more reassuring than troubling in thinking about Maggette as a Spur.

    The thing that kills me is that even having missed a relatively high number of games in each of the last few years, Maggette has finished those seasons in the top 10 in FTA:

    2003-04 -- 73 games, 620 FTA (3rd in NBA)
    2004-05 -- 66 games, 657 FTA (8th in NBA)
    2006-07 -- 75 games, 633 FTA (6th in NBA)
    2007-08 -- 70 games, 681 FTA (6th in NBA)

    Those are remarkable numbers if you stop to think about it. He's also done that without playing some ridiculous number of MPG in those seasons (36.0 in 03-04; 36.9 in 04-05; 30.5 in 06-07; and 35.7 in 07-08). I know his ability to get to the line has been discussed over and over in this thread, but the extent to which those numbers illustrate his ability to do that is pretty astounding. If you think about it, there's a decent chance that even playing the reduced minutes that the Spurs might impose upon him, Maggette could be among the top 10 in the league in FTA. The Spurs haven't had that since 03-04.
    He is injury prone and that's what scares me the most.

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    He is injury prone and that's what scares me the most.


    hes worth the risk

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    He is injury prone and that's what scares me the most.
    It's there, but what were his injuries?

    Derek Anderson was injury prone, came to San Antonio and played an injury-free regular season before getting bodyslammed by Juwan Howard and suffering an injury that almost nobody would have been able to play through.

    At that, he's played in 75 and 70 games the last two regular seasons. Manu has played in 75 and 74 games in those seasons.

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    How would the Spurs give them the exception though? Also, if Maggette is already a UFA with and they hold no rights it does not matter. Unless you are saying that another team will offer more to one or both of Baron and Brand. I guess none of this matters if Elton and Baron do not sign with LA...
    The Spurs would use their trade exception to take back a contract without sending one in return.

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    I am all for getting Maggette... I just think come Monday we will still have no decision from Maggette and Pietrus and JR Smith will be off the board....
    This is the most likely outcome in my opinion. We will be on the hook long enough for Maggette to take the most money all the while every other FA the Spurs could use will be signed by our main rivals.

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    I'm sure the Spurs will give Maggette a timeframe for a decision after they make their offer. Who knows? Maybe he won't want to wait on GS, Philly, or Memphis if they aren't willing to commit now.

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    I'm sure the Spurs will give Maggette a timeframe for a decision after they make their offer. Who knows? Maybe he won't want to wait on GS, Philly, or Memphis if they aren't willing to commit now.
    Maggette + Barry + Thomas - Finley - Horry - Stoudamire = Great Offseason!

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    I agree with those saying it's still a stretch to get Mags, even though we're the "front runner"..probably due to past heartbreaks..

    a lot of you are selling our team short though..Tim Duncan is one of the most respected player in the NBA by his peers..Pop is one of the best motivators in the NBA and the best coach in the NBA IMO..chemistry isn't an issue with this team..Maggette isn't a cancer either way, but he knows what he's getting himself into if he signs with the Spurs..

    it seems as if a lot of you forget about your own team..

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    Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, or whatever.

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    The Spurs have tried for a long time to trade for Maggette. It appears that they went to him first in free agency. Who knows? Players like to have their ass kissed. Yes, $$$ is always a major consideration, but other things are important to players. Baron Davis will be signing for a starting salary with the Clippers that is $6 mil less than what he was slated to receive in the final year of his last contract (which he opted out of). Had he played out that final year with the Warriors he would have positioned himself to get more than 5 years, $65 mil.

    Come to SA, you'll likely be in the starting lineup, have an opportunity to get a lot of minutes, and then in 2010 we'll take care of you long term. We also will give you the option to test a much better free agent market in 2010.

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    Isn't it possible that the Spurs offer Maggette the full MLE only for the first year with a raise for the following years? I think that is the route they are going to take in the contract offer. Next year he makes 5.8 mil, then the year after bump up to 8 or so...

    The only thing is, these threads are eerily reminding me of the draft enthusiasm and as we all know the Spurs went the opposite way of what we all thought even with guys on the board whom we thought they would take...

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    Isn't it possible that the Spurs offer Maggette the full MLE only for the first year with a raise for the following years? I think that is the route they are going to take in the contract offer. Next year he makes 5.8 mil, then the year after bump up to 8 or so...

    The only thing is, these threads are eerily reminding me of the draft enthusiasm and as we all know the Spurs went the opposite way of what we all thought even with guys on the board whom we thought they would take...
    Can't do that under the cap.

    What the Spurs can do is sign Maggette to a 3 year MLE deal with a player option after the 2nd year, which would fall in the summer of 2010. Then the Spurs would have the cap room to give him such a raise (and a long term deal).

    If Maggette takes a MLE deal, it will be a short-term deal.

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    i WANT MAGGETTE

    If This sign means more than MLE or a little more too

    This time we must to spend a little more for a great player, who can help a lot when the team need rest to remain healthy

    He can score and Help the Second Unit too, when TD is in the bench

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    If the Spurs land Magette, the Spurs are the favorites in the West, if not the entire, league, again. I don't care if Bynum is coming back, especially if Ian can make decent contributions off the bench. Then you've got Udoka with a year's experience, its an odd year and the Spurs always play better as dogs.

    I'd say the Spurs would be an extremely tough out come next year's playoffs.

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    Noted but Corey Maggette never struck me as the John Stockton of the Clippers.

    To be honest, I'm not excited about Maggette. Free agents have never really enjoyed much success in San Antonio. I think our system is demanding and team culture is far different than the country club mentality enjoyed by many other squads. Michel Finley made it work because he's about as professional as it gets.

    Maggette worries me but we do need a starting shooting guard that is committed to winning NBA championships and not Olympic gold medals and can handle 35 minutes per game so if we get him, I'll be cautiously optmistic.
    I would be very optimistic because I figure that word gets around the league about different team cultures and Magette has been in the league for, what, 8 years? Obviously he's heard about the Spurs' demanding culture, and I'm confident the Spurs' staff knows the good and bad about Magette and feel the good tips the scale. All in all, I think Magette knows what he'd be committing to do.

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    There are too many teams with more money than us interested in Maggette. The more the time goes by, the less likely he will be a Spur....

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    On Sportscenter, Chris Broussard said that Maggette will take his time & see what happens with Philly''s offer for Josh Smith..he said Maggette is Phillys second choice & could make him a more lucrative deal than the MLE.....if thats true about Maggs being their second option, there could be some problems.

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    Woo wee Maggz is playing our fiddle again! x2

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    On Sportscenter, Chris Broussard said that Maggette will take his time...

    Then that means he's out. I don't see any scenario where the Spurs wait for him.

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    I am all for getting Maggette... I just think come Monday we will still have no decision from Maggette and Pietrus and JR Smith will be off the board....
    Well, that could be true. But the same could be said if we were to sign JR Smith as well since he is a RFA. The Spurs could give him an offer, he accept, then the Nuggets take the full allotted time to make a decision (which is like 4 - 5 days), then decide to match. What do you think the Spurs end up with if they wait that long?

    At least with Maggette, he is a UFA and can make a decision whenever he wants. Hopefully, with Pop being in California, he can guage whether or not Maggette is seriously considering the Spurs or just using us to up his price so we can move on or wait.

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    On Sportscenter, Chris Broussard said that Maggette will take his time & see what happens with Philly''s offer for Josh Smith..he said Maggette is Phillys second choice & could make him a more lucrative deal than the MLE.....if thats true about Maggs being their second option, there could be some problems.
    spurs out of the equation. On to JR Smith.

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    On Sportscenter, Chris Broussard said that Maggette will take his time & see what happens with Philly''s offer for Josh Smith..he said Maggette is Phillys second choice & could make him a more lucrative deal than the MLE.....if thats true about Maggs being their second option, there could be some problems.
    In that case, if this is true, I think Pop moves on. It doesn't sound like he is serious and is more interested in the money than anything else. It's understandable, but the Spurs have to make sure they address their needs and aren't left standing at the alter with nothing.

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    Pietrus, I'm guessing

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