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    So usually it's people dying to figure out how to lose weight and get slim and all that but I am trying to do the opposite.

    Three weeks ago I was 149lbs and this morning before eating I weighed in at 152 and already see a very slight difference. All I have been doing so far is the typical old fashioned work outs like push ups, crunches, leg lifts, squats (strapping heavy stuff to my back), pull ups, and eating a lot. That's it. I won't be getting a weight bench for a few weeks and joining a gym right now is out of my budget but that will change within a couple months.

    I have shot a few PM's to a few guys I know that pump iron and all that but I need some tips and advice from everybody.

    I have read up a lot of web sites and information but a lot of them seem to contradict each other and have a lot of different ways to go about things.

    What I want to do is set up a plan, a daily schedule of what I need to do from the time I wake up and go to sleep at night. Including:

    -What foods do I need to be consuming as well as drink? Downing raw eggs, drinking lots of milk? etc etc
    -What supplements do I need to be on, I know protein is a must for my situation but not only that what is this I hear about slow digesting protein for while I am sleeping, and am wondering about creatine(spelling?) and such..
    -Vitamins? What kind would be best for my situation?

    As I mentioned I want to set up some kind of daily regiment for myself to get back into shape and healthy again and would like some tips/advice/suggestions from people who have done it. So what do I need to pick up at GNC and give me some kickers here to start this plan up.

    *edit*: If it matters, I am 23, 6-1 and currently 152lbs. Cut but, not near enough!
    Last edited by Brutalis; 07-03-2008 at 08:19 AM.

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    I used to weigh 160lbs for 10yrs........started working out at Golds about 5yrs ago.......I now weigh 195lbs and bench 310lbs. Oh, Im also over 40yrs old.

    The best thing to do is work out AT A GYM......if and when possible. Do alot of benching, legs and arm workouts and eat foods with alot of protein........meats, eggs....things like that. I dont suggest supplements.....because your body will get used to the increased intake and if you ever slow down on the supplements or your workout......you will blow-up weight wise. You want to stay in shape and gain muscle weight, not fat weight. That is why I recommend controlling your weight with a good, balanced diet and working out......rather than supplements.

    IMHO.....


    Oh yeah, Im no longer at Golds, but still workout 3-4x a week at Snap 24hr fitness.

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    I used to weigh 160lbs for 10yrs........started working out at Golds about 5yrs ago.......I now weigh 195lbs and bench 310lbs. Oh, Im also over 40yrs old.

    The best thing to do is work out AT A GYM......if and when possible. Do alot of benching, legs and arm workouts and eat foods with alot of protein........meats, eggs....things like that. I dont suggest supplements.....because your body will get used to the increased intake and if you ever slow down on the supplements or your workout......you will blow-up weight wise. You want to stay in shape and gain muscle weight, not fat weight. That is why I recommend controlling your weight with a good, balanced diet and working out......rather than supplements.

    IMHO.....


    Oh yeah, Im no longer at Golds, but still workout 3-4x a week at Snap 24hr fitness.
    What kind of monthly price should I be expecting to pay at a gym?

    And supplements, I have always seen/been told that protein shakes, whey and all that are a must??? LoL what do you mean blow up weight wise?

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    What kind of monthly price should I be expecting to pay at a gym?

    And supplements, I have always seen/been told that protein shakes, whey and all that are a must???
    I just read your pm man. Gym prices are usually around the 20 mark but go up with quality of gym. I pay 25 a month at Golds but I can use it at any golds around the US.

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    If you want to put on weight, eat three square meals a day at the following places for a week and you should gain 25 pounds easy:

    Breakfast: Krispy Kreme or Dunkin Donuts. Personally I prefer DD. With KK you can just feel your ass getting fatter with every bite, but that may be what you're looking for. Go with a dozen of the biggest donuts with the most creme filling and lots of icing. That's probably like 400 calories per donut at least.

    Lunch: Chinese Food Buffet. You can go to whichever one you prefer. Make sure to load up your plate so that it's like a pyramid of chicken, rice, eggrolls, wantons, and anything else you can fit on the plate without it spilling over. Get about five plates worth so that $3.99 lunch special goes a long, long way. Save room for dessert too.

    Dinner: Taco Bell. Just spend like 10 dollars on those .89 cent burritos, that should get you like 12 of em. Get some of those caramel apple things too, maybe like 5, and make sure you go inside to eat to capitalize on the unlimited free drink refills.

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    I just read your pm man. Gym prices are usually around the 20 mark but go up with quality of gym. I pay 25 a month at Golds but I can use it at any golds around the US.
    Hit me back if you got some advice. I know you were saying something like talk to you when I can get to a gym or have weights, but I think my situation starting off with the push ups and etc have me sore as as it's helping as it is.

    Just 20-30? Wow cheap. I can do that. I am going to feel like a complete dumb ass however, I probably don't even know how to set the weights on the machines.

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    If you want to put on weight, eat three square meals a day at the following places for a week and you should gain 25 pounds easy:

    Breakfast: Krispy Kreme or Dunkin Donuts. Personally I prefer DD. With KK you can just feel your ass getting fatter with every bite, but that may be what you're looking for. Go with a dozen of the biggest donuts with the most creme filling and lots of icing. That's probably like 400 calories per donut at least.

    Lunch: Chinese Food Buffet. You can go to whichever one you prefer. Make sure to load up your plate so that it's like a pyramid of chicken, rice, eggrolls, wantons, and anything else you can fit on the plate without it spilling over. Get about five plates worth so that $3.99 lunch special goes a long, long way. Save room for dessert too.

    Dinner: Taco Bell. Just spend like 10 dollars on those .89 cent burritos, that should get you like 12 of em. Get some of those caramel apple things too, maybe like 5, and make sure you go inside to eat to capitalize on the unlimited free drink refills.

    LMAO thats not the kind of wieght he is looking to put on. Also you can be skinny but still clog your arteries.

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    Get past puberty first.

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    And if you have problem holding down all that food, smoke a big fat bowl of some dank before you leave the house and you should have no probs.

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    What kind of monthly price should I be expecting to pay at a gym?

    And supplements, I have always seen/been told that protein shakes, whey and all that are a must??? LoL what do you mean blow up weight wise?
    $25-$30........I pay $30 at Snap....and I can use any nation wide as well.

    As far as supplements??? I had a friend that played football......struggled to gain weight for years.......took protein shakes like mad..........got really muscular and gained about 30lbs. Football career ended, and he stopped working out as much and stopped taking the supplements.........blew up to over 250lbs. Ive heard this happen more often than not. That is why IMHO, I say gain weight naturally with your diet and a good strong workout. Its much easier to control you body mass.

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    If you want to put on weight, eat three square meals a day at the following places for a week and you should gain 25 pounds easy:

    Breakfast: Krispy Kreme or Dunkin Donuts. Personally I prefer DD. With KK you can just feel your ass getting fatter with every bite, but that may be what you're looking for. Go with a dozen of the biggest donuts with the most creme filling and lots of icing. That's probably like 400 calories per donut at least.

    Lunch: Chinese Food Buffet. You can go to whichever one you prefer. Make sure to load up your plate so that it's like a pyramid of chicken, rice, eggrolls, wantons, and anything else you can fit on the plate without it spilling over. Get about five plates worth so that $3.99 lunch special goes a long, long way. Save room for dessert too.

    Dinner: Taco Bell. Just spend like 10 dollars on those .89 cent burritos, that should get you like 12 of em. Get some of those caramel apple things too, maybe like 5, and make sure you go inside to eat to capitalize on the unlimited free drink refills.
    1. I can't afford to eat out 21 times a week.
    2. I assume you're kidding anyways.

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    Hit me back if you got some advice. I know you were saying something like talk to you when I can get to a gym or have weights, but I think my situation starting off with the push ups and etc have me sore as as it's helping as it is.

    Just 20-30? Wow cheap. I can do that. I am going to feel like a complete dumb ass however, I probably don't even know how to set the weights on the machines.
    I have been training a friend of mine for a month now and he was a total gym noob. What you have to remember is that everyone started off like that. No one will judge you and if you have problems dont be shy to ask. No one will look down and you and will commend you for trying. Be positive and keep at it. I pmed you back.

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    And if you have problem holding down all that food, smoke a big fat bowl of some dank before you leave the house and you should have no probs.
    LOL

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    2. I assume you're kidding anyways.
    If I learned any one thing from growing up in San Antonio, it's how to put on some serious flab without much effort. I go to the gym now too but for different reasons than you're looking for.

    Tho being a broke college student is a pretty good diet plan.

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    $25-$30........I pay $30 at Snap....and I can use any nation wide as well.

    As far as supplements??? I had a friend that played football......struggled to gain weight for years.......took protein shakes like mad..........got really muscular and gained about 30lbs. Football career ended, and he stopped working out as much and stopped taking the supplements.........blew up to over 250lbs. Ive heard this happen more often than not. That is why IMHO, I say gain weight naturally with your diet and a good strong workout. Its much easier to control you body mass.
    That usually only happens if you keep taking it when your not working out. Worst case you lose the muscle content you had.

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    $25-$30........I pay $30 at Snap....and I can use any nation wide as well.

    As far as supplements??? I had a friend that played football......struggled to gain weight for years.......took protein shakes like mad..........got really muscular and gained about 30lbs. Football career ended, and he stopped working out as much and stopped taking the supplements.........blew up to over 250lbs. Ive heard this happen more often than not. That is why IMHO, I say gain weight naturally with your diet and a good strong workout. Its much easier to control you body mass.
    That is so cheap. What kind of hours do most gyms have? They open late or anything?

    And holy @ your friend. Now I'm worried -- thanks a lot!!

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    BRB I'm going to get some ing donuts.

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    That is so cheap. What kind of hours do most gyms have? They open late or anything?
    I used to have a membership at Gold's Gym and they were open 24 hours every day but Sunday I think. Stay away from personal trainers in my opinion. Some of them charge ridiculous amounts of money for a one hour session, and that's straight up cash in their pocket for them so they are going to try to get you signed up for some PT sessions when you get your gym membership. And if you said you couldn't afford my MegaFlab Diet Program then you can't afford a got damn personal trainer.

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    That is so cheap. What kind of hours do most gyms have? They open late or anything?

    And holy @ your friend. Now I'm worried -- thanks a lot!!
    The body's can't store protein, and people vary widely in their daily protein needs. Recommendations from the government (0.8 gram of protein per kilogram (2.2 pounds) of bodyweight) totally contradict what many hardcore actually do (1 gram or more per pound of bodyweight), but the truth for you may lie somewhere in between. Whatever your protein needs, if you exceed them without following an accompanying mass-building program, the excess calories won't translate into muscle. I believe in small amounts throughout the day builds mass muscle without fat gains far more than large amounts of protein at one time (See Grazing). Also, if you aren't eating enough carbohydrate, you'll waste that precious protein on the fueling of basic metabolic processes and daily activity. In some cases, when people increase their protein intake drastically and then gain muscle, it may not be due to protein intake but to raising their calorie intake to a point at which growth can be supported. A final thought on protein: If your kidneys aren't in good shape, or you have kidneys disease, using excess alcohol, steroids, or any other medications that are hard and the kidneys and liver, a high-protein diet isn't a good ideal. You should determine a proper protein intake only.
    In closing, remember that protein powders should be treated as a supplement to a food-based diet. Ideally, you should eat a variety of protein sources throughout the day, as well as enough carbohydrate to provide energy and prevent the protein you consume from being broken down to fuel basic energy needs. Any protein supplement, and long as you consume it with a a well-balanced mixed diet of different proteins, then all of your amino acids bases will be covered.

    http://www.bodyandfitness.com/Inform...s/protein2.htm

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    I used to have a membership at Gold's Gym and they were open 24 hours every day but Sunday I think. Stay away from personal trainers in my opinion. Some of them charge ridiculous amounts of money for a one hour session, and that's straight up cash in their pocket for them so they are going to try to get you signed up for some PT sessions when you get your gym membership. And if you said you couldn't afford my MegaFlab Diet Program then you can't afford a got damn personal trainer.

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    That is so cheap. What kind of hours do most gyms have? They open late or anything?

    And holy @ your friend. Now I'm worried -- thanks a lot!!
    Snap gyms are smaller......located all over. They are 24hrs......you have a card that lets you into the gym at your convenience. My gym is about 1mi. from my house......I can walk, ride a bike, or drive there. I like it because its close, and I can workout when I want. They have great equipment including free weights, and the place never has over 2-3 people there at one time. I usually superset.

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    (If interested, a friend of mine used to sell them to Dat Nguyen and other Dallas Cowboys players. I can provide a telephone number.)

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    The body's can't store protein, and people vary widely in their daily protein needs. Recommendations from the government (0.8 gram of protein per kilogram (2.2 pounds) of bodyweight) totally contradict what many hardcore actually do (1 gram or more per pound of bodyweight), but the truth for you may lie somewhere in between. Whatever your protein needs, if you exceed them without following an accompanying mass-building program, the excess calories won't translate into muscle. I believe in small amounts throughout the day builds mass muscle without fat gains far more than large amounts of protein at one time (See Grazing). Also, if you aren't eating enough carbohydrate, you'll waste that precious protein on the fueling of basic metabolic processes and daily activity. In some cases, when people increase their protein intake drastically and then gain muscle, it may not be due to protein intake but to raising their calorie intake to a point at which growth can be supported. A final thought on protein: If your kidneys aren't in good shape, or you have kidneys disease, using excess alcohol, steroids, or any other medications that are hard and the kidneys and liver, a high-protein diet isn't a good ideal. You should determine a proper protein intake only.
    In closing, remember that protein powders should be treated as a supplement to a food-based diet. Ideally, you should eat a variety of protein sources throughout the day, as well as enough carbohydrate to provide energy and prevent the protein you consume from being broken down to fuel basic energy needs. Any protein supplement, and long as you consume it with a a well-balanced mixed diet of different proteins, then all of your amino acids bases will be covered.

    http://www.bodyandfitness.com/Inform...s/protein2.htm
    This is really confusing at first, but very useful at the same time if that makes any sense.

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    Dude, J.T., between the booze, the cocaine, and your diet, you'll be lucky to see age 40.

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    Snap gyms are smaller......located all over. They are 24hrs......you have a card that lets you into the gym at your convenience. My gym is about 1mi. from my house......I can walk, ride a bike, or drive there. I like it because its close, and I can workout when I want. They have great equipment including free weights, and the place never has over 2-3 people there at one time. I usually superset.
    I don't know about free weights, I am too damn n00b to working out and would end up dropping the on my neck or something.

    I am going to google Golds and Snaps and see which is closer to me thanks bud.

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