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    Common now, Horn put himself into a situation that he didn't have to put himself into while John White was put into a situation where he felt his families safety was threatened...big difference.....
    Different state, different law.

    Besides, White couldn't keep hjis story strait.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Just heard snippets of Horn's interview. When asked if it was justified to shoot two burglars who were robbing your neighbor's home. He responded that he didn't shoot them because they were burglars, he shot them because he was in fear for his life...

    they were shot in the back? Throw in the fact that he was clearly warned by the 9/11 dispatcher not to do it...

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    Just heard snippets of Horn's interview. When asked if it was justified to shoot two burglars who were robbing your neighbor's home. He responded that he didn't shoot them because they were burglars, he shot them because he was in fear for his life...

    they were shot in the back? Throw in the fact that he was clearly warned by the 9/11 dispatcher not to do it...
    You know, full context of the situation is important. They may have said they would come back for him. They were running from the scene with arms full of stolen goods. He may not be in the right if they dropped it all, but they were fleeing with stolen goods.

    Again, laws are different in different states. I wish all states allowed such immediate actions to be taken. This is a useful deterrent against thieves. Such justice taken by citizens didn't used to be questioned in the past. It's about time we return to some of those proven good 'ol day items.

    As far as I care, someone in the act of a crime loses their protections from any action required to stop such actions.

    Thieves beware. I will not think twice to kill you if you take from me.

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    How many videos did the losers out there make about the gun carrying raiders in Chocolate City during katrina?

    but lets blast Mr. Horn lmao


    He's a free man es!!!11

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    he is a great man sons. we need more people like him to clean up the streets.

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    he is a great man sons. we need more people like him to clean up the streets.
    Unfortunately, It maybe the streets that has the final say to people like Horn. Did he invite trouble?

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    Shooting people in the back is cowardly, especially for something as insignificant as theft.

    Property =/= Life

    Of course, society doesn't value life anymore, so it's not surprising. People are expendable. And death isn't a deterrent to low-life s . They have nothing to live for anyways.

    Anyways, this is a very materialistic and sensitive society. People shoot each other over insults or honking their horn, why not theft? Maybe software piracy can be ended with some vigilante justice.

    I don't have a problem with self-defense with probable cause, but Horn was an idiot with a trigger finger. If you think your family is in mortal danger or you see a thug pull a knife, then by all means fire. But Horn just did it to "get some stuff back". He's just as soul-less as the people he killed.

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    he wasn't in danger nor were the guys carrying anything (meaning the owners would not have lost any property) so he shoots them.. He'll get his mark my words..
    I don't have the particulars in front of me, but I thought one of the men had a crowbar in hand when approaching him (Horn) and when found they also had a sack containing $2K in cash and jewelry. Plus, what about the testimony of the plain clothed police officer that witnessed the shooting and said Horn was within his rights?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I don't have the particulars in front of me, but I thought one of the men had a crowbar in hand when approaching him (Horn) and when found they also had a sack containing $2K in cash and jewelry. Plus, what about the testimony of the plain clothed police officer that witnessed the shooting and said Horn was within his rights?
    my problem is both these guys were shot in the back... As far as the law is concerned texas is unique in that you can now shoot someone in the dark regardless if you feel threatened our not.. Horn said " I feared for my life".. the get out of jail free card of comments.. Cops shooting unarmed suspects (rightly or wrongly) justify shootings all of the time by claiming the same as horn did... Only in texas.. how embarassing. I hope this state is never represented in the White House during my lifetime..

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    my problem is both these guys were shot in the back... As far as the law is concerned texas is unique in that you can now shoot someone in the dark regardless if you feel threatened our not.. Horn said " I feared for my life".. the get out of jail free card of comments.. Cops shooting unarmed suspects (rightly or wrongly) justify shootings all of the time by claiming the same as horn did... Only in texas.. how embarassing. I hope this state is never represented in the White House during my lifetime..
    From the reporting I have read, they were in his yard, they made a move towards him, he raised his shotgun, they tried to get away and Horn was quicker. They were hit in the side and the back trying to flee a robbery.

    Do I think he went looking for a fight? Sure, but in the eyes of the law he was justified in the shooting.

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    Unfortunately, It maybe the streets that has the final say to people like Horn. Did he invite trouble?
    We'll see what happens if they go to his home.

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    Joe Horn should be behind bars.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    From the reporting I have read, they were in his yard, they made a move towards him, he raised his shotgun, they tried to get away and Horn was quicker. They were hit in the side and the back trying to flee a robbery.

    Do I think he went looking for a fight? Sure, but in the eyes of the law he was justified in the shooting.
    Dispatcher: Mr Horn , do not go out of the house.
    Horn: I'm sorry. This ain't right buddy
    Dispatcher: You're going to get yourself shot if you go outside that house with that gun. I don't care what you think. Stay in the house.
    Horn: You wanna make a bet? I'm gonna kill'em..


    Autopsy results:
    Ortiz
    Entry wounds: busckshot in the back of both shoulders and elswhere on the left side of his back

    Torres
    Busckshot in the left lateral chest and posterolateral torso, left posterier arm and other areas...

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    Dispatcher: Mr Horn , do not go out of the house.
    Horn: I'm sorry. This ain't right buddy
    Dispatcher: You're going to get yourself shot if you go outside that house with that gun. I don't care what you think. Stay in the house.
    Horn: You wanna make a bet? I'm gonna kill'em..


    Autopsy results:
    Ortiz
    Entry wounds: busckshot in the back of both shoulders and elswhere on the left side of his back

    Torres
    Busckshot in the left lateral chest and posterolateral torso, left posterier arm and other areas...
    Maybe they were running backward in his direction?

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    You can disagree with his decision to shoot them, but prison? Yikes.

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    Joe Horn should be behind bars.
    I'm all for it, if you put the two dead guys' corpses in jail for their crime as well.

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    Joe Horn is a pretty decent wide receiver.

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    Can we call him 'Murderer of the Year' and be done with it?

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    Don't rob houses and you have less chance of getting shot... problem solved.

    They ing deserved it.

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    I've never owned or fired a gun, but if I had one and observed someone robbing my neighbor, I believe I would confront them with gun in hand.
    Too close to home to ignore.



    And to the poster sabar, who labeled Horn as "soulless"; that implies that Horn did not have a conscience. The fact that he cared enough about his neighbor to call 911, or was outraged by thievery, are reasons enough render your reasoning as being faulty and without merit.
    <A good argument can also be made that your labeling of the thieves as soulless is at the very least, presumptive>

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    Don't rob houses and you have less chance of getting shot... problem solved.

    They ing deserved it.
    Absolutely. But then I'm one that believes all first degree crimes against other individuals should have the possibility of the death penalty. This is the ulimate way to stop repeat offenders.

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    Can we call him 'Murderer of the Year' and be done with it?

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    We'll see what happens if they go to his home.
    I hope your right....may Horn live a long and happy life knowing that he murde...errr.....killed to men for $2K worth of stuff that wasn't even his....

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Don't rob houses and you have less chance of getting shot... problem solved.

    They ing deserved it.
    cool now property = life...

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    Hey Bruce... Lebron is the Rock Sec24Row7's Avatar
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    cool now property = life...
    Umm... where have you been for the last 60,000 years?

    You miss the whole Sapien bandwagon?

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