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we can`t have Nocioni. He was from TAU.
From the interviews I read, he was very frustrated. He even had an argument with one of the coaches during a timeout. He later apologized to him and his teammates, but most of them didn't seem to give a about it. He was banged up for some stretches, but when he came back from the injury he couldn't load back the minutes he had before.
In the interviews given to the Argentinian media, he implied that some of his teammates didn't give a about winning or losing, and he just couldn't accept that. From my point of view, Skilles lost the plot and he also lost the respect of the players. At one point of the season, the Bulls were a team that jacked up shots with no coherence at all, and played no defense.
This is a guy that would throw himself to the stands to save a loose ball with his leg broken. If Manu has a will to win and hates losing, then Nocioni arrives home and starts whipping himself after every lost game.
After the 2006 World Championships where Argentina lost to Spain in the semifinals, in a game where Nocioni missed the game winning-shot, he set a picture of that shot as a wallpaper in his laptop, and a video of the same shot as his screensaver. He said that image reminded him that he needs to improve and work hard in practice every day.
Maybe it's possible to lure him somehow, because, after all, this are the Bulls. Since the 2004 season, when they had a very promising team, they have made the dumbest moves in the offseason and wasted draft picks. If the Spurs are able to get him, they've got the long 3 they've been looking for years.
we can`t have Nocioni. He was from TAU.
Don't we also have the Beno trade exception that could be included in some manner?
I want Nocioni
He´s a better fit than Maggete
But......... NOw the Spurs are talking about Maggette, not Nocioni
I don´t see how the Spurs can take nocioni
to much guess work for me....cory gets hurt alot, much like dwade and manu carters, his acrobatics have turned into some sit on the bench and heal time...nocioni seems tougher and can hit the 3(pop loves that stuff)...imo id ratcher get timmy some solid help cos he more then anyone else is gonna need it next season...i aint got no names but its all guess work anyways...
quick! somebody call up Presti and see if he can work on a deal in his spare time.
thats one tough hombre
From what I could find, his salary went up from about $3.5M to $8.5M, meaning that since this is his BYC year we would need to offer up half of his BYC salary in compensation. So we'd need around $4.25 in return. If you include the Beno trade exception we would only need to include Bonner in the trade or the trade could be Bonner + Vaughn, depending on how much room the Bulls need. Either trade scenario would be okay with me.
Last edited by bluebellmaniac; 07-05-2008 at 04:31 PM. Reason: grammatical error
Trade exceptions & players cannot be packaged together.
Packaging a deal of Bonner and Vaughn would make a lot of people happy around here...
Nocioni isn't a BYC player since July 1st.
Can Nocioni play SG or PF in smallball ?
Since this is the first year of his contract, that would make it this year wouldn't it? Last season you wouldn't have used his $8.5M (or half that) because the $8.5M salary is for the '08-'09 season. Last season he made around $3.5 M.
I checked out more info on BYC trades and those are tough. I think it would require at least a 3rd team which adds an order of magnitude of difficulty to the equation.
Don't think we have any shot of landing him...
We are talking about player that got little or no chance in going SA. It doesnt matter he;s good or not, its unlikely. We even not sure if Spurs offer Magette anything coz after the 9th he can sign any contract (i think CM will wait till last minute,waiting freakin EB)...I got no idea whats goin on in FO right now. We were debating if we could be on the trade or sign Magette,but in the end we end up with exactly the same dude last year plus Hill and Gist (knock on wood)
. We just basically wasting our in time,including me.
God have mercy on all of us..... FO better be working fast or them all,especially RC Bufford (get excited about Splitter continue to growth in Tau? Bull )
Nocioni is in the second year of his contract since July 1st.
Nocioni salary is $8M for this year.
dude, its just basketball...get a grip.
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but why not a sign and trade with Chicago for Nocioni. We trade them a newly signed Finley and Bonner for Nocioni??
The NBA has that one covered. It would require a multi-year deal w/ Finley with the first year guaranteed, and Finley would have to agree. So w/ the guaranteed Finley and Bonner contracts, the Bulls are no closer to finding relief from the salary cap. Thus no incentive on the Bulls part to pull the trigger on that deal...
Nocioni has to be one of the most overrated and overpaid players in the NBA. Sure he can shoot and all, but this team would benefit far more with Maggette in the lineup than Nocioni. Match-up wise Maggette gives you more versatility than Nocioni.
My God, you're an idiot.
argenitune players on this site are overrated
manu however is close to being overrated on this site
I've wanted Nocioni on the Spurs for YEARS.
Spurs won't do it though. So getting my hopes up anymore.
both.
HE SUCKED WORSE THEN BOONER LAST YEAR
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