A re-evaluation of the Jesus story?

[tlongII]

Apparently not.

It seems Dr. Knohl already had a hypothesis that included some "messiah" named Simon, and was looking for some textual evidence to support it. Along comes this tablet, with an obscure reference to "three days," and a corrupted word that could mean "life" among other things.

Of course, if somebody tried to use a tie so tenuous (to the point of non-existence) to buttress a position defending orthodox Christianity, he'd be laughed out of the academy.

The fact that the tablet doesn't contain the name "Simon" is irrelevant. The significance is that the 3 day resurrection principle may have already been an established belief before the time of Jesus.

[midgetonadonkey]

daddy needed to give him a little more hugs than what he did.

I think his daddy gave him way more than just hugs.

[midgetonadonkey]

Peewee was molested.

[ashbeeigh]

Peewee was molested.

You weren't even going to leave tat to everyone's imagination? Lame. You should have left it at the last post.

[leemajors]

The fact that the tablet doesn't contain the name "Simon" is irrelevant. The significance is that the 3 day resurrection principle may have already been an established belief before the time of Jesus.

there is nothing new about the numerological significance of the number three in religion. Christianity, as with most religions, co-opted a lot of stuff to draw people into it.

[Extra Stout]

The fact that the tablet doesn't contain the name "Simon" is irrelevant. The significance is that the 3 day resurrection principle may have already been an established belief before the time of Jesus.

Well, yeah, it's in Hosea 6, in the Old Testament.

Headline: "Skeptics Discover Christian Themes Prefigured in Old Testament"

Next Headline: "Skeptics Think For a Second about What That Means, Drop the Subject, Go Back to Mindless Christian-Bashing."

[Spuradicator]

that piece fails

[tlongII]

Well, yeah, it's in Hosea 6, in the Old Testament.

Headline: "Skeptics Discover Christian Themes Prefigured in Old Testament"

Next Headline: "Skeptics Think For a Second about What That Means, Drop the Subject, Go Back to Mindless Christian-Bashing."

Really? Perhaps you would like to quote them?

[Extra Stout]

Really? Perhaps you would like to quote them?

Quote the 'skeptics?' That was a joke, son.

[tlongII]

Quote the 'skeptics?' That was a joke, son.

No, I wanted you to quote Hosea 6, but never mind since I looked it up anyway.

[BacktoBasics]

Your bills? Have you seen the electric bill for Heaven??

God is cursing gas prices as we speak.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Peewee was molested.

, but not in a gay way.

[Solid D]

Seems as though Dr. Knohl has engaged in a bit of speculative hypothesizing.

I didn't see much conclusive "Simon" stuff there.

Much of the translated words look to be something that could have easily been written during the time of Isaiah or Jeremiah or even Zechariah. These writers & prophets had numerous references and prophecies about the Messiah, Immanuel (God with us), and the events around Christ's (Jesus') death. Zechariah prophesied in his book about 30 pieces of silver (the amount Judas was paid in his betrayal of Jesus) and throwing the silver to the potter (the 30 pieces of silver were used to buy the "potter's field" as told by Matthew).

Isaiah (roughly 750 BC) had numerous prophecies concerning a Messiah. Isaiah's writings were quoted by Jesus when he went to the synagogue in His hometown of Nazareth. He was handed a scroll from Isaiah (61:1-2) and he read:
"The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me, because the LORD has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the blind to proclaim the year of the LORD's favor...". Then, Luke reported in his gospel that, Jesus rolled the scroll back up and gave it to the attendant and told the people in the synagogue ""Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing."

The Old Testament has numerous collections of writers' prophecies about a Messiah and the events surrounding His death. Even King David, in his Psalm 22, wrote a tremendously accurate account around 1000 BC relating to the events of Jesus on the cross...as it would turn out. The Psalm begins with "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" The very words stated by Jesus on the cross that most scholars now see was not so much directed to God as it was to the people around him, pointing them to that Psalm, so that they would see the events described that were being fulfilled. (You should read or re-read Psalm 22 and see what I mean).

There are numerous writings, up to 1000 years and more, about events that are similar to what happened during Jesus life but they were pointing to Jesus. Could this additional stone attested to Gabriel be just more on the same subject? I can't wait to see what else can be deciphered on it!

[Big Empty]

So are there any historical references to jesus outside the bible?

[rascal]

Question: what Makes Jesus the messiah and not the homeless guy I saw on the street the other day claiming the same thing?

because some book said he was?

also, if I write a book about the homeless guy and someone discovers it hundreds of years later, will they believe my book?

What if humanity is all but wiped out then the survivors find a Harry Potter or Lord of The Rings book 3000 years from now, do you think they will believe it as fact?

Says the guy who killed 3 people shooting them in the back as they ran out of breaking into his house.

Jesus rose from the dead and you will have to answer for killing 3 people and being a nonbeliever. Good luck with that.

[Suspect]

So are there any historical references to jesus outside the bible?

Might find your answer in this video starting from the 21:30 mark

[baseline bum]

Says the guy who killed 3 people shooting them in the back as they ran out of breaking into his house.

Jesus rose from the dead and you will have to answer for killing 3 people and being a nonbeliever. Good luck with that.

following some bas child that got put up on the cross at only 33
a religion based on cuckoldry
the resurrection about as believable as Weekend at Bernie's 2
surviving your own death
those three gots in the ground
phyzik

[The Reckoning]

wasnt in the roman tax records either

[rascal]

following some bas child that got put up on the cross at only 33
a religion based on cuckoldry
the resurrection about as believable as Weekend at Bernie's 2
surviving your own death
those three gots in the ground
phyzik

With no resurrection the religion would have died on the cross with Jesus.

Why would his followers even continue with it if Jesus had lied to them had he not risen from the dead? They would have been pissed off to be conned by a liar and fraud.
His followers went into hiding and were ready to abandon the religion and Jesus all together when Jesus went to the cross. They had nothing to gain to continue had he not risen from the dead.

[rascal]

wasnt in the roman tax records either

So you believe records are 100% intact and accurate?
doesn't mean a thing if he is in or not in the records and where is a valid link to your statement that he is not in the records . That is probably not even true.

[The Reckoning]

So you believe records are 100% intact and accurate?
doesn't mean a thing it he is or not and where is a valid link to your statement that he is not in the records . That is probably not even true.

So you believe the Bible is 100% intact and accurate?

that's a "record" isn't it?

[TDMVPDPOY]

u guys still reading this?

how come GOD or whoever didnt send another one to earth after the last one?

[Suspect]

So you believe the Bible is 100% intact and accurate?

that's a "record" isn't it?

/thread

[rascal]

So you believe the Bible is 100% intact and accurate?

that's a "record" isn't it?

You didn't answer my question.

[Blake]

You didn't answer my question.

it's a ridiculous question