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    Then perhaps there is room for Javtokas next season.

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    Then perhaps there is room for Javtokas next season.
    I wouldn't rule it out.

    It's probably too early to tell, but depending on what is/becomes available... He just might be the best option.

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    what is javtokas age now

    and thomas age now?

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    I'm not sure how much Javtokas is being paid in the Russian league, but what incentive would he have to ditch that salary to come over to the NBA?

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    The good news is Russian leagues big money is 2-3 mil, they dont pay the money the spanish teams do...and his buy out is reported to be 500k
    Didn't the Spurs get a cash comp payment of 500k in the recent draft-day trade with the Suns?

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    Still looks pretty athletic. He and Splitter must have had the same coach at some point because they both have that same disgusting hook shot. I wonder if the Express-News mentions him a lot because they know he might be coming over ... or just to fill up their word count.

    That'd be pretty cool if Javtokas shocks the world and agrees to play for the Spurs summer league team.
    I'm confident that McDonald doesn't know anything and Javtokas being a former draft pick is one of the few pieces of Spurs trivia he knows about so he just throws it in without ever being told anything. Spurs didn't even bother to tell him that Barry opted out, I don't see them giving him some inside info that they're bringing Javtokas over.

    While it's interesting that no SL roster has been announced yet even though their practices start in less than 24 hours, I'm under the impression that Javtokas even if signed by the Spurs wouldn't play summer league with his national team obligations.

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    Russian teams are considered poor....thats way all the good players tend to gravitate to the spanish leauges...Javtokas is a super star and is making about mill american.
    No. Russian teams are the richest of all. Even compare to FC Barcelona and Real Madrid soccer revenues you have many billions Russian owners.

    Javtokas also make much more than you say. He make 1.5 million euros and this is net salary not gross. His salary is like $4 million gross salary in NBA. In Europe he can get 3 years deal and at least same amount of 1.5 million euros because salaries is much higher now than when he sign contract.

    So for him SAME AMOUNT he would make in Europe would be like 3 years $12 million contract in NBA. This is not bad contract for big man in NBA. But less than this would be ask him to accept pay cut and like I say before here many time players is no longer take pay cut most of them for "glory" of NBA anymore because NBA is not consider as good as used to be in Europe these days.

    3 years $12 million gross NBA contract is like same as he would have in Europe. I not see any chance this player will leave Europe for any pay cut.

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    I thought about bumping the Karaulov thread, but after reading the last 4 posts, I decided against it. If you care, here's the link.
    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...araulov&page=2

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    By the way, Javtokas is playing alongside Jannero Pargo with Dynamo this year.

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    I still wish we bring this guy over one day. Hes still young and vids show one of the meanest slams Ive ever seen (Dwight Howard mean).

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    Rebounds seem a little weak, but damn, 84% FG is ing insane.

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    Eurocup isn't a very high level of compe ion in the group phase (first 6 games).
    Russian league currently is the higher quality compe ion for Javtokas.

    8 games
    MPG: 23.5
    PPG: 9.0 PPG (57.1% FG)
    RPG: 5.5
    BPG: 0.9

    he started the season pretty well, but cooled down significantly in the last weeks. he has lost some of his minutes to the (more talented) Darjus Lavrinovic, who he was able to outplay for the starter job at the beginning of the season.

    btw. Nachbar and Pargo are doing pretty well for Dynamo so far.
    Last edited by mountainballer; 12-10-2008 at 04:31 AM.

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    When's the earliest date he could get here, July?

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    Does anyone know a site that has rebound rate data for Euroleague players? Knickerblogger.net and Basketball-reference.com keep it for the NBA, but I know of no site that keeps it for the euroleagues

    Rebound Rate: PERCENTAGE of available rebounds grabbed. Eg team 1 has 14 o rebounds and 28 D rebounds on the game, team 2 has 8 o rebounds and 26 D rebounds. Player K for team 1 has 4 o rebounds and 6 D rebounds. He has an O rebound rate of 4/(26+14) of 10%, and a D rebound rate of 6/(28+8) = 16.7%. His overall rebound rate is 10/(14+28+8+26) = 13.2%. This is typically calculated over a season or a career's worth of games...It is a better statistical measure of a players rebounding ability, being much less influenced by game pace, minutes played, etc... I think it makes a reasonable prediction of Euro rebounding capabilities when they come to the NBA.

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    Does anyone know a site that has rebound rate data for Euroleague players? Knickerblogger.net and Basketball-reference.com keep it for the NBA, but I know of no site that keeps it for the euroleagues

    Rebound Rate: PERCENTAGE of available rebounds grabbed. Eg team 1 has 14 o rebounds and 28 D rebounds on the game, team 2 has 8 o rebounds and 26 D rebounds. Player K for team 1 has 4 o rebounds and 6 D rebounds. He has an O rebound rate of 4/(26+14) of 10%, and a D rebound rate of 6/(28+8) = 16.7%. His overall rebound rate is 10/(14+28+8+26) = 13.2%. This is typically calculated over a season or a career's worth of games...It is a better statistical measure of a players rebounding ability, being much less influenced by game pace, minutes played, etc... I think it makes a reasonable prediction of Euro rebounding capabilities when they come to the NBA.
    Hollinger say average player get 18-20 percent MORE rebounds in NBA than he did in Euroleague.

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    Hollinger say average player get 18-20 percent MORE rebounds in NBA than he did in Euroleague.
    Yeah, but part of that is game pace, and part of it is 48 minute games vs. 40 minute games... Rebound rates are nice, in my opinion, because they do a lot less shifting around, letting you compare apples to apples...

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    Yeah, but part of that is game pace, and part of it is 48 minute games vs. 40 minute games... Rebound rates are nice, in my opinion, because they do a lot less shifting around, letting you compare apples to apples...
    Wrong. Hollinger figures ALL NBA stat on 40 minutes only.

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    i can't believe he's shooting free throws so well (for him)

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    Is it time to write this guy off too?

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    Is it time to write this guy off too?
    I dont know, but KBP's sig is starting to creep me out a little.

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    I dont know, but KBP's sig is starting to creep me out a little.
    I just want to know her name already.

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    LOL
    what happened to him?

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