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Chad Bergman (rigth) assistant athletic trainer of the San Antonio Spurs With Manu and Coach Hernandez
Don't travel much outside the US that, do you?
You probably think love for the US outside America is at an all time high.
Now that is a thought that should make you
If worrying about what other people thought about my country bothered me i wouldnt sleep.
People hate america cause alot of time they are jealous.
Chad Bergman (rigth) assistant athletic trainer of the San Antonio Spurs With Manu and Coach Hernandez
I'm guessing the people who are ing about him possibly playing are the sames people who have never played any kind of sports in their lives. You people act as if we're talking about something other than a CHILDS game. I know they get paid, but quit being so ing selfish seriously. The guy is going to play for his COUNTRY on the world stage and hoping to defend the le they earned last time, imagine how you would feel in the same spot. Yes, basketball is a business and he does get paid millions, but the guy has already played a major role on our team for 5-6 years now and signed for less than we would have gotten on the open market. He's done a lot of the Spurs and the city of San Antonio already, quit being ing babies about him doing something for his country. Tpark ing sits here and es about how America is so ing great every chance he gets, so I doubt that if he was in Argentina getting paid millions to play a sport, he would shun the obligation to defend his countries basketball le...you know because our country is so great he would never put money ahead of pride in his country.
You know we've won the thread when ducks and TPark are the ones arguing for the other side.
Mission acomplished
+1
If Manu wins the gold again, and then gets in a freak accident a third(doesn't really matter when) into the season after doing even better than last year, ducks and t park are going to look like dumbasses.
i hope he gets healthy for the Olympics and for us when the season rolls around.
I'm on my way to NY, so in reality, I'm ing in . . . bag.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9382
Ginobili Still Hurting: As discussed in this space last week, San Antonio guard Manu Ginobili may still be hurt and could be forced to miss playing for Argentina at the Olympics in Beijing.
"It was worse than [Ginobili] let on," Spurs forward Anthony Bonner recently told the Toronto Star. "When I was watching Ray Allen go right by [Lakers guard] Sasha [Vujacic] every time and lay it in every time, I was like, 'Yeah, it must have been really hurting.' "
Because of the injury it's looking quite likely the Spurs will ask Ginobili not to play. The Spurs as a franchise are one of the few big proponents of their players getting involved with their respective national teams, so asking Ginobili not to play would make it seem they are quite worried.
Bonner's statement raises another issue too, this one for Lakers' restricted free agent Vujacic. He earned quite a bit of praise and presumably made himself some money this summer specifically for his defense on Ginobili. Yet, following that up with the defense played against Boston's Allen made some wonder. Could this be the answer? Vujacic simply looked good because of Ginobili's injury? Manu is probably nodding his head, and it's something the Lakers need to take into account.
The defensive duo of Jordan Farmar and Vujacic works well when the Lakers want to spread the floor and play full court pressure defense, but in a halfcourt set the answer may be Vujacic isn't good enough to stop the better two guards. He's quick, tough and a little bit sneaky, but he's hardly the player to body someone up to stop or alter a drive to the hoop.
There is still little doubt Vujacic re-signs with the Lakers, but it will be interesting to see where the numbers end up and if Vujacic and the Lakers are close as to what the value should be.
1. The Machine didn't lock down Manu?
2. Anthony Bonner?
Is there a link to these quotes other than the GlobalBasketNews site? I can't find them anywhere but there.the quotes are translations from an interview held in Buenos Aires on Friday... they are correct...
who the is Anthony Bonner?
u speak spanish?
Unfortunately, no, but I just wanted to find another source with the same quotes. I have someone here at the station who speaks Spanish that can translate.
Last edited by urunobili; 07-07-2008 at 02:50 PM.
Can someone please translate this? Thanks...
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1027904
Ginóbili se entrenó activamente
Pese a la lesión, Manu sorprendió a todos al participar extensamente del primer día de prácticas de la Generación Dorada, en Rosario
ROSARIO.- Seguido a sol y sombra por Shad Bergman, el entrenador especialmente enviado por los Spurs, Emanuel Ginóbili arrancó ayer su recuperación del tobillo izquierdo junto con el resto del seleccionado, aunque realizando ejercicios diferenciados. Un minucioso control que aumentará cuando arribe al país David Smith, uno de los médicos principales de la franquicia texana que llegará con el propósito de realizar la última evaluación del bahiense. "Viene el 20", afirmó ayer Manu. Cuando se le aclaró que la salida hacia Europa se había adelantado para el 19, respondió: "Bueno, voy a tener que avisarle". Según su agente, Carlos Prunes, Smith será el encargado de darle o no el alta definitiva.
En tanto, ayer sorprendió la extensa actividad que plió el jugador, que arrancó haciendo abdominales y pesas (tren superior e inferior sin apoyo) en el gimnasio de musculación, junto con sus compañeros, y luego continuó el trabajo en el parquet del estadio de Newell s Old Boys. Fueron diez minutos de bicicleta fija a un costado de la cancha, y terminó con elongación y realizando unos 30 tiros libres, aunque sin saltar ni moverse de la línea de lanzamientos.
"Hasta mañana seguramente estará bajo los efectos de la infiltración que le aplicaron en San Antonio, así que iremos pautando el trabajo día tras día junto con el enviado de los Spurs. Posiblemente mañana ya empiece con los ejercicios en la piscina", aclaró el médico de la delegación, Diego Grippo. Por la noche, en la práctica de básquetbol, Manu hizo una caminata en la línea de fondo durante diez minutos, volvió a elongar abdominales y realizó movimientos suaves con el tobillo. Todo bajo la supervisión de Bergman. Cuando el equipo comenzó con los movimientos tácticos, se sentó en el banco para observar.
Raúl Foradori, presidente de la Federación Santafecina, organizadora del partido del miércoles frente a Polonia, se refirió a la buena voluntad de Ginóbili de venir pese a su lesión: "Lo que hizo es extraordinario. Es Maradona. Tranquilamente podría no haber venido, pero él quiso estar y se lo agradecemos infinitamente. Lo que lamentamos es que el público no haya tenido en cuenta nuestro esfuerzo por traer a tantos NBA, algunos de ellos santafecinos [Nocioni y Delfino], que defendieron la camiseta de la provincia en muchos campeonatos argentinos y que son muy queridos. Pasó algo increíble: el día que Manu anunció su lesión y que no iba a poder jugar acá, nosotros estábamos vendiendo entradas, y la gente, al enterarse, empezó a irse de la fila de las boleterías". La bronca del dirigente tiene que ver con que hasta ahora sólo se vendieron 4000 localidades. "Confío en que el último día la gente de esta zona, que es muy basquetbolera, se acerque al estadio para apoyar a los campeones olímpicos."
La comparación con Maradona motivó que algunos periodistas hablaran de que Diego había jugado el Mundial 90 con el tobillo muy inflamado y minimizaran el problema de Manu. "Maradona hay uno solo", señaló Ginóbili. "Seguramente yo no tengo ni la mitad de lo que tuvo Diego, pero está bueno que la gente del fútbol opine; sirve para difusión del básquetbol, y eso me pone contento."
Por Miguel Romano
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Manu, el más solicitado por los fanáticos
La guardia de cazadores de autógrafos es permanente frente a las puertas del Hotel Riviera. Y todo cobra fuerza y vigor cuando los jugadores van o vienen de cada entrenamiento. Los gritos de "¡Manu, Manu!" se escuchan desde lejos. Desde ayer existe guardia policial en la puerta de ingreso en el hotel. No alcanzó con los empleados ni maleteros; ahora el control se hizo más riguroso. Pero todos, con la mejor onda, se detienen y satisfacen los requerimientos de tantos hinchas.
If Ginobili wants to play in the Olympics he should be able to. You can't denigrate a person for having national pride.
idiots didn't want him to play in the conference finals cuz he was hurting the team, yet most had no problem with him limping and showing guts because thats what he gets paid for.
I really wish the US would go to a college player, young NBA players 3-4 years in the league or less and players at the endo of the their careers 10yrs or more that actually want to play in the olympics. We don't even want to watch olympic bball anymore because the players are greedy selfish, would rather be on vacation and are only there according to cuban to make more money. Yet when we see real nationalism, players that want to represent for their country, players that see olympic gold, silver and bronze as a greater accomplishment than any trophy including the obrian trophy they are viewed as selfish and greedy. We just don't seem to give a dam about national pride anymore, keep our players out so they wont' get hurt. I would ask what people thought is Manu was actually up for the US team, but this country is so jaded that it would be a no brainer, don't play, its only the olympics
he gets paid to play for the spurs
and I did not want him to play that many minutes he was hurting the team more then helping
had barry got manu minutes spurs would have won game 1
Ginobili trained actively.
Despite being injured, Manu surprised everybody taking place extensively of the first golden generation practices in Rosario.
Followed every instant by Chad Bergman, the Spurs athletic trainer sent by the Spurs, Emanuel Ginobili started with a light differentiated session for the rehab of his left ankle with the rest of the national team. The sessions are having a very close control from the Spurs and will get tougher with the arrival of David Smith, one of the main doctors of the Texan franchise, that is arriving with the purpose of doing the last evaluation on Manu. Ginobili said he is supposed to arrive the 20th. When they told him the team is supposed to be leaving for Spain the 19th he said: “ well, I will have to let them know”. As per his agent Carlos Prunes, Smith will be in charge of give him or not the approval to play the summer games.
Meanwhile, it was a surprise yesterday the activity held by the player, that started doing some abs and weight lifting on the (upper body and some lower without using his feet) next to his teammates on the muscle development gym. Then the work continued on Newell’s Old Boys stadium court. Those were 10 minutes of cycling next to it and ended up with stretching exercises and shooting 30 free throws but without jumping or moving from the line.
“Until tomorrow he will surely be under the effects of the infiltration that was injected in San Antonio, so we will start planning on his work on a daily basis with Chad. Possibly tomorrow he will start with some pool work” doctor Diego Grippo (Argentine NT) said. Yesterday night on the basketball practice, Manu walked on the sidelines for 10 minutes, did some stretching work again, abs and then slow motion movements with the ankle (all this under Bergman’s supervision). When the team started with the tactic movements, he sat on the bench to observe.
Raul Foradoni president of Santa Fe Province Basketball Federation that is organizing Wednesday’s match against Poland, referred to Manu's good will to come despite the injury. “What he did is extraordinary. He is Maradona. He could have easily opted not to come, but he wanted to be part of it and we will always be grateful for that. What we do regret is that the public haven’t taken into account the effort to bring so many NBA’s, some of them born and raised here [Nocioni and Delfino], that defended the province jersey in so many Argentinean championships and are beloved. Something weird happened: the day that Manu announced his injury and that he wouldn’t be able to play here, we were selling tickets and the people when they noticed, started to leave the lines”. The rage of the front office official has to do with only 4000 tickets being sold so far. “ I trust that in the last day people from the area that likes basketball a lot, come to the stadium to support the Olympic champs”
The comparison with Maradona made some journalists talk about that Diego played 1990’s World cup finals with his ankle infiltrated and minimized Manu’s injury. “There is only one Maradona” Ginobili pointed out. “Surely I don’t have even the half of what he did, but it’s cool that people from soccer bring their opinion; it is good for basketball as it brings more attention and that makes me happy.”
By Miguel Romano
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- Manu was the most solicited by the fans. The guard of the autograph hunters is permanent at the front of the Riviera Hotel. And everything strengthens and invigorates when the players come and go from the training facility. The shouts of “Manu, Manu!” could be heard from really far. Since yesterday there is also a police custody on the hotel's main entrance. It wasn’t even enough with the Hotel employees and the bag carrying guys; now the control is more rigorous. But everybody in the team have the best vibe, they stop and satisfy the requirements of so many fans.
Last edited by urunobili; 07-08-2008 at 08:56 AM.
If the Spurs don't get Maggette they are ed next season. No way does Ginobili hold up all 82 games + deep playoff run.
Like I said before. Anyone who thinks Manu will miss the Olympics is clueless.
The Lakers are ed. No way does Bynum hold all 82 games + deep playoff run.
Bynum is 20, Ginobili is what 32-33? Big difference.
Thanks for the translation urunobili.
you're welcome! thanks for posting the article!
lol , manu is the same age as kobe, get a clue.
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