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I don't get why GS would go after him this early either.
The San Francisco Chronicle is reporting that the Warriors have reached out to Clippers free agent forward Corey Maggette.
This should come as a disturbing development to Warriors fans.
Not because Maggette isn’t a useful player and might be able to help the Warriors, but because it’s not the right time, place or cir stance to try to go get him. It seems apparent Maggette turned up on the Warriors’ radar only when Baron Davis opted out and money became available.
That’s OK. The Warriors only reached out to Elton Brand because Davis opted out. And if Brand were to accept the Warriors’ $90-million-ish offer most would assess that kind of transaction as positive.
But let’s be clear: Maggette is no Brand.
If we’re talking about signing Maggette to the mid-level exception (as the Chron says), you could make a case it would be worth it _ a salary starting in the $5 to $6 million range. But Maggette isn't coming to the Warriors for the mid-level, and they know it.
If Maggette is going to play for the mid-level, it’s going to be for the San Antonio Spurs or Boston Celtics, two teams very interested in his services. For the Warriors, he’s going to cost more than that. The only way Maggette is coming to the Warriors is for four or five years at a number starting at $7 million or so.
The real concern Warriors fans should have is if management, perhaps feeling the sting of Davis' departure and a possible snubbing by Brand, makes a desperate stab at Maggette as a way of demonstrating it's not sitting on its hands.
If the Warriors give Maggette more than three years at more than $6 million per, they're going to regret the move.
And here’s why:
⇒First off, Maggette is injury prone. He’s been in the league nine seasons and has played 70 or more games just four times in his career. Maggette’s body says Iron Man; his stats say Tin Man.
⇒Maggette is a great sub, the kind of aggressive scorer you love coming off the bench. He has a shoot first mentality and is a mediocre defender at best. In other words, as a sixth man he’s great, as a starter he’s not.
⇒Maggette has made it clear he wants to start and be a primary offensive option. But he’s the type of high-maintenance player who doesn’t make teammates better. In fact, because he doesn’t create much, there tends to be a lot of standing around when he’s got the ball on the perimeter.
⇒Maggette has never played for a winner. His teams have missed the playoffs in eight of the nine seasons he’s been in the league. The one year a Maggette team made the playoffs was in 2006, when the Clippers made it to the postseason. That year Maggette played 32 games.
Corey Maggette at three years, $16 or $17 million or so … maybe. Corey Maggette at five years for $40 million? No way.
http://www.examiner.com/x-441-Golden...-not-good-news
I don't get why GS would go after him this early either.
this article makes some sense
Wasn't this already discussed?
no actually, this article says that the warriors SHOULDNT go after maggette for important reasons.
its true, GS has absolutely no use for him. they dont have a pg or a reliable pf and they have a weak bench. signing cm doesnt really help their team the way they think.
Well it's over then.... oh well nice pipe dream...
the warriors are worse than lottery bound.
wtf do they need CM, when they have at least 3 fukn guys on that team, that does exactly the same thing as CM on offense
This doesn't make sense with what the article says.Well it's over then.... oh well nice pipe dream...
I live in Oakland and know that they only want him so they can have a big name/exciting player to keep selling tickets... they don't care that they have no real need for him or that he might not help them get to the playoffs...Baron use to be that guy, Richardson, Arenas, and Jamison were the big ticket sellers before that...they are just desperate after Baron split on them...
Yea they have no need for him... if they throw enough money at him though; I don't see how he can pass it up...still have my fingers crossed though...
After reading that sobering description of Maggette, maybe I won't feel so badly if the Spurs don't land him!
The Warriors have reportedly already said they won't pay much much more than the MLE, so I doubt they're still a real contender here.
yea it doesnt sound good how he paints maggette out to be. but i believe as a role player and he would be great
True... will see if they hopefully stick to what they said about that...
The article echoes what many here have said and that analysis is spot on in my opinion. The only way to land Magette, if he's serious about wanting a winner, is to over pay for him, and hopefully Mullin has learned his lesson. There may not be another team like the Pacers that cir stances will allow them to fleece in a trade down the line. Without Davis or Brand they are a lottery team with or without Magette.
This has been my point all along about the Warriors and Sixers pursuing Maggette.
If either team does it for more that the MLE, it's because they simply feel some sort of pressure to use the money they have available under the cap instead of being more patient and making a useful move.
In my mind, Maggette doesn't significantly improve the Warriors or Sixers, mostly because there are few "other" parts in those cities to think that those teams might jump a level by adding a player like Maggette. In other words, do the Warriors become a certain West playoff team through an off-season that adds Maggette but subtracts Baron Davis? Unlikely. Do the Sixers become a team that is likely to advance to the 2nd round in the East by adding Maggette? Probably not.
That's not a knock on Maggette -- it's an admission that those teams need more help than an above-average wing. Avoiding the issue of being a Spurs homer for a second, Maggette makes much more of an impact on teams that are already established and need one more piece (San Antonio, Utah, New Orleans, Orlando) than he does on a team that's looking to jump from mediocrity to the next level of being a team that's expected to qualify for the playoffs and advance.
In an era where more and more teams seem bent on spending wisely and efficiently (having learned the lessons of bad contracts past), any team exceeding the MLE for 2-3 years to sign Maggette is admitting that: (1) it has learned nothing from the recent past; and (2) it would rather spend money now than make itself available for any number of other transactions down the road that actually might make a lot of basketball sense.
I don't honestly expect that degree of sober thinking to invade an NBA front office -- particularly the front office in Oakland, which has managed to avoid being just about the worst in professional sports primarily because of one playoff run and the coincidental failures with the Hawks. But as a Spurs fan, I certainly hope that someone convinces Chris Mullin and Don Nelson to think about the future a bit and consider how little it would do for them to spend big on Maggette now.
These are all good points and all reasons why I'm not losing sleep over Maggette. Sure he'd be a good signing and would fill a void in our roster. As the Spurs 4th man he'd be pretty good I suppose, but to date he's proven nothing.
Maggette misses as much games as manu
the reasons why GS doesn't want him, are the reasons why he would fit better on a championship contending team that offers him a starting job. his workload will be a lot easier on the spurs given our weapons and we can cover any defensive deficiency he may have...see finley.
Spurs have about 10% chance of maggete coming. I really hope Spurs office is pursuing other options
That's an accurate description of Maggette and his career. Its also why he is a great addition to a team that doesn't need him to carry the offense. He's not worth franchise money. For the right $$ (MLE) he would be an excellent pick up.
For GS or the Sixers to pay him more than MLE $$, it would be stupid. That being said, the article is also correct in that they may throw dumb money at him if all else fails. Hopefully, he won't be around when they get to him.
Nope, he misses more.
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